# NFL 2023-2024: Super Bowl 58 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** football-nfl\ **Created:** [February 4, 2024, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095 "2024-02-04T16:14:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/281 "2024-02-12T04:47:30Z")
> [@zimaane](#): > > If SF won the overtime coin toss, why did they choose to receive the ball first? I’d think with the new rules it would make sense to kick if you win the coin flip. The last Chiefs drive was short (in time), and the Chiefs D were looking exhausted during the preceding 49ers drive. I think maybe it made sense to give the Chiefs D as little rest as possible. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/282 "2024-02-12T04:58:58Z")
Indeed. It was mentioned that the Chiefs substitute sparingly on defense. Most of those guys were playing every defensive play. It’s a testament to their conditioning and grit that they were able to stop SF short in OT. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/283 "2024-02-12T05:02:23Z")
> [@Chingon](#): > > Maybe have some attack helicopters flown in to run some plays? Air drop McCaffrey on a motorcycle. No way the Chiefs could have stopped that. ---
**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/284 "2024-02-12T05:07:55Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > Mahomes just said that if they had won the toss, they would have kicked off. Getting the ball second means you know exactly what you need to do to win. That seems like the best strategy. Although, if you get the ball first and the score is still tied after the first set of possessions, you’ll have the ball first in the sudden death portion. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/285 "2024-02-12T05:11:19Z")
> [@borschevsky](#): > > Although, if you get the ball first and the score is still tied after the first set of possessions, you’ll have the ball first in the sudden death portion. That is a good point. And this is exactly what Shanahan just said about taking the ball first. It would be interesting to speculate if, had the Niners scored 7, would KC had gone for two after their touchdown? ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/286 "2024-02-12T05:23:52Z")
Man, I am PISSED! I’m beginning to equate Kyle Shanahan with Marv Levy. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/287 "2024-02-12T07:17:11Z")
> [@Gorsnak](#): > > Seen on Twitter: “The San Fransisco 49ers can still win the Superbowl if Mike Pence has the courage to do the right thing.” “SF 3 KC 0 STOP THE COUNT!” ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/288 "2024-02-12T11:22:11Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > I totally agree. I think it will be a one-score game and may come down to the last possession. Well played! ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/289 "2024-02-12T12:13:05Z")
I’m sure I’ll be hearing a lot of moaning at work today about how the Chiefs won and Taylor was on the screen a lot. Was she really featured a great deal on broadcasts? ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/290 "2024-02-12T12:21:04Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Was she really featured a great deal on broadcasts? According to this article, she appeared on screen for 55 seconds during the 4 hour, 18 minute broadcast. > **[How long was Taylor Swift on TV during the Super Bowl?](https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2024/02/11/taylor-swift-super-bowl-time-on-tv-shown-sighting-travis-kelce/72563688007/)** > > Taylor Swift may have been the biggest part of the Super Bowl between the San Francisco 49ers and Kansas City Chiefs. Here is how long she was on TV. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/291 "2024-02-12T12:55:33Z")
A couple of those times were a little forced but, no, it wasn’t all that often. Maybe only 3 or 4 times during the game itself? You could tell the director, probably instructed so by CBS, was looking for any reason at all to cut the camera (maybe a dedicated one?) over there and just not finding opportunities due to the way the game progressed. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/292 "2024-02-12T13:19:02Z")
Yeah I did not think it was very much at all. Especially at the end when Kelce had several catches, they didn’t go to her every time. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/293 "2024-02-12T13:41:14Z")
Did I turn the TV off too soon and miss the part where Travis and Taylor came out on the field after the game to announce their undying loyalty to and support for Biden? I mean, the Biden admin did their part by putting the fix in for the Chiefs. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/294 "2024-02-12T14:04:44Z")
they declared the election over. we are now living with “botus”. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/295 "2024-02-12T14:23:02Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > Time of Possession: Chiefs 38:31, 49ers 36:26 Whoops, my bad. This should be reversed: Time of Possession: 49ers 38:31, Chiefs 36:26 ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/296 "2024-02-12T14:29:17Z")
> [@solost](#): > > Did I turn the TV off too soon and miss the part where Travis and Taylor came out on the field after the game to announce their undying loyalty to and support for Biden? You also missed Kelce’s marriage proposal to Swift. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/297 "2024-02-12T14:34:07Z")
[Super Bowl ‘Rigged’ Rumors Take Internet By Storm After Chiefs Win](https://www.newsweek.com/super-bowl-rigged-rumors-kansas-city-chiefs-travis-kelce-taylor-swift-1868961) > [@](#): > > _Newsweek_ has contacted a representative of the Chiefs via email for comment. I don’t get that. Wouldn’t it be the 49ers who took the fall? Ask them for comment. Or is Newsweek afraid of being cursed out? ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/298 "2024-02-12T14:36:09Z")
Y’all **do** realize there’s people out there who WILL be under the impression all that happened anyway 😵‍💫 ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/299 "2024-02-12T14:39:12Z")
Social media is killing society. I mean that absolutely sincerely. 30 years ago “the NFL is rigged,” an accusation that makes no sense whatsoever, would have been restricted to people living on the streets or with corkboards in their basements covered in strings and newspaper clippings. Now millions seem to believe it. It is absolutely, one hundred percent social media that has done this. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/300 "2024-02-12T14:39:15Z")
I mean, what could be easier than choreographing a muffed punt that hits the back of someone’s ankle? Hell, it’d be harder to train and be 106 of the best football players on the planet than it would be to follow a play-by-play script… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095.md?page=16)