# NFL 2023-2024: Super Bowl 58 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** football-nfl\ **Created:** [February 4, 2024, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095 "2024-02-04T16:14:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/101 "2024-02-12T00:49:07Z")
Right in front of the ref., seriously. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/102 "2024-02-12T00:49:31Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > While true, I don’t believe that the rule on intentional grounding takes that into account. I would think it has to. He appears to intentional throw it to someone who is there and his aim is altered by defense. The name of the penalty is Intentional grounding. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/103 "2024-02-12T00:50:05Z")
And that was good playing - SF TD ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/104 "2024-02-12T00:50:34Z")
And there it is, touchdown, sf. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/105 "2024-02-12T00:50:59Z")
Dang. A great play by SF. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/106 "2024-02-12T00:51:55Z")
Stupid penalty and then the first entertaining play of the game. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/107 "2024-02-12T00:52:23Z")
I hope Dunkin paid them a lot of money for that. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/108 "2024-02-12T00:52:42Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > I would think it has to. He appears to intentional throw it to someone who is there and his aim is altered by defense. The name of the penalty is Intentional grounding. I stand corrected. The rule includes the following: > [@](#): > > **Item 2. Physical Contact.** Intentional grounding should not be called if: > > 1. the passer initiates his passing motion toward an eligible receiver and then is significantly affected by physical contact from a defensive player that causes the pass to land in an area that is not in the direction and vicinity of an eligible receiver; or > 2. the passer is out of the pocket, and his passing motion is significantly affected by physical contact from a defensive player that causes the ball to land short of the line of scrimmage. Point 2 above would have seemed to have qualified. Here’s the full rule: > **[Intentional Grounding | NFL Football Operations](https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/nfl-video-rulebook/intentional-grounding/)** ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/109 "2024-02-12T00:52:47Z")
I found it amusing. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/110 "2024-02-12T00:53:05Z")
That touchdown was beautiful. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/111 "2024-02-12T00:57:53Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > Point 2 above would have seemed to have qualified. I havent seen the replay, but it was pretty clear to me Mahomes wasn’t targeting a player, he was clearly trying to just get rid of it. His throwing motion was a 2 handed shuffle. But bitching about officiating is as big a part of the NFL as actual football. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/112 "2024-02-12T01:02:01Z")
Good grief, kick yourself while you are down why don’t you. Saved by the first down, ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/113 "2024-02-12T01:06:03Z")
Kennedy for pres. commercial. He’s shooting for nostalgia and name recognition. Policy, nevermind any of that. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/114 "2024-02-12T01:07:13Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Kennedy for pres. commercial. I wonder if it was actually based on an ad for his father’s campaign in '68, or if it was new, but made to look old. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/115 "2024-02-12T01:07:16Z")
I also endorse the corpse of JFK. Or RFK. We’re practically there already. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/116 "2024-02-12T01:08:05Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Kennedy for pres. commercial. He’s shooting for nostalgia and name recognition. Policy, nevermind any of that. Might want to rethink nostalgia for people named Kennedy. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/117 "2024-02-12T01:09:28Z")
Either throw the GD ball or call up another QB. It’s like watching someone park on a railroad crossing to check the air in the tires. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/118 "2024-02-12T01:11:03Z")
kc with some points finally. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/119 "2024-02-12T01:11:40Z")
So much for a high scoring game. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-2024-super-bowl-58/997095/120 "2024-02-12T01:14:08Z")
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