# NFL 2023 Off-Season Thread

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-off-season-thread/979801
**Category:** The Game Room
**Tags:** football-nfl
**Created:** [February 14, 2023, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-off-season-thread/979801 "2023-02-14T21:26:32Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)
#### Post date: [July 23, 2023, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-off-season-thread/979801/501 "2023-07-23T17:24:37Z")

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My guess is that once a new stadium is approved and built, the team reinvents themselves under a new name and getting a prime time game opening weekend (or second weekend for a home opener) as well.

The Commanders/ Washington Football team name era will be as irrelevant as the Tennessee Oilers name

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### Author: ![LoneRhino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lonerhino/32/1311_2.png) [@LoneRhino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LoneRhino)
#### Post date: [July 24, 2023, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-off-season-thread/979801/502 "2023-07-24T00:27:57Z")

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As a Giants fan, he will be missed.

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### Author: ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)
#### Post date: [July 25, 2023, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-off-season-thread/979801/503 "2023-07-25T16:44:42Z")

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Barkley signs his deal with the Giants and will report to camp on Day 1.

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### Author: ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)
#### Post date: [July 25, 2023, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-off-season-thread/979801/504 "2023-07-25T16:46:17Z")

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Woohoo! Fantastic news. It’s only a 1-year deal, so expect similar drama next season, but at least this season is all squared away now.

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### Author: ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)
#### Post date: [July 25, 2023, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-off-season-thread/979801/505 "2023-07-25T20:29:57Z")

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Niners QB Brock Purdy, who partially tore the UCL in his throwing elbow during the NFC Championship Game in January, has been cleared to participate in training camp practices.

As Purdy didn’t suffer a complete tear, he was able to under go a repair surgery in March, rather than a Tommy John replacement (which would have a much longer recovery period); for now, the Niners have him on a “pitch clock” during training camp, only allowing him to throw on two out of every three days.

> **[49ers say QB Purdy is 'cleared and ready to go'](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38069760/49ers-say-qb-brock-purdy-elbow-cleared-ready-go)**
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> 49ers general manager John Lynch said Tuesday that quarterback Brock Purdy, who underwent offseason elbow surgery, has been "cleared without restriction" and is ready to go for training camp.

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### Author: ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)
#### Post date: [July 26, 2023, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-off-season-thread/979801/506 "2023-07-26T18:43:31Z")

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I’m going to be pretty dubious that Purdy is anywhere close to 100%. 6 months isn’t nearly enough time to heal up following elbow surgery, even if it’s not a full TJ.

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### Author: ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)
#### Post date: [July 26, 2023, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-off-season-thread/979801/507 "2023-07-26T20:27:30Z")

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I really dont get the Purdy hype. Dont get wrong, I love him for being an efficient, win-with QB with low draft capital, low salary cap hit, and a spunky, can-do attitude. Everything I love in a NFL QB. And I do think he’d make a fine NFL QB for a team like the Niners, with YAC monsters like Kittle, McCaffrey, Samuel, and Aiyuk. But I have yet to see anything that leads me to believe he’ll become a game changing QB.

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### Author: ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)
#### Post date: [July 27, 2023, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-off-season-thread/979801/508 "2023-07-27T19:46:01Z")

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I just started a new thread for the preseason:

> [@NFL 2023 Preseason Thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-preseason-thread/987698):
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> With training camps underway, I thought I’d open a new omnibus thread for the preseason, as a successor to the [off-season thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-off-season-thread/979801/507). The selection committees for the Pro Football Hall of Fame have announced the results of the first round of narrowing candidates for the “senior” (older players who retired no later than 1998, and weren’t inducted previously) and “coaches and contributors” categories. The lists will be further narrowed next month, to three seniors and one coach or contributor, who w…

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### Author: ![fedman1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e495f1/32.png) [@fedman1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fedman1)
#### Post date: [August 8, 2023, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-off-season-thread/979801/509 "2023-08-08T15:17:29Z")

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similar to Titans

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### Author: ![fedman1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e495f1/32.png) [@fedman1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fedman1)
#### Post date: [August 8, 2023, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-off-season-thread/979801/510 "2023-08-08T16:53:07Z")

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you didn’t note the 49ers offense improved by 5 points per game with him

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### Author: ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)
#### Post date: [August 8, 2023, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-off-season-thread/979801/511 "2023-08-08T17:03:28Z")

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In addition to Purdy becoming the starter, the Niners also added Christian McCaffrey a couple of weeks earlier, so if there was an improvement late in the season, it may not have been solely due to Purdy at QB.

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### Author: ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)
#### Post date: [August 8, 2023, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-off-season-thread/979801/512 "2023-08-08T17:21:46Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> the Niners also added Christian McCaffrey a couple of weeks earlier

Five weeks earlier, to be exact. IIRC, McCaffrey joined the Niners just a couple of days before they played the Chiefs, a game which KC won 44-23. Then they won the next 10 in a row to finish the regular season. The first four of the streak were with Garoppolo under center, then he got hurt in the fifth game and was replaced by Purdy. Their stats appear to be somewhat similar, although I can’t find a listing that shows just games that were started by each QB.

Don’t forget that SF led the league in fewest points allowed. It’s a lot easier to play with the lead and consistently decent field position.

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### Author: ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)
#### Post date: [August 8, 2023, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-off-season-thread/979801/513 "2023-08-08T17:29:31Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> Their stats appear to be somewhat similar, although I can’t find a listing that shows just games that were started by each QB.

[Here’s their schedule from last year, on Pro Football Reference](https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/sfo/2022.htm#all_games). Garappolo was injured early in the game against the Dolphins on December 4th; Purdy finished that game, and then started the remaining five regular season games (as well as the playoff games).

The Niners did score 33+ points in five out of the six games in which Purdy played extensively (including the Dolphins game), though it’s also worth noting that they won comfortably (by two touchdowns or more) in four out of those six games, suggesting that their excellent defense also played a role.

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### Author: ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)
#### Post date: [August 8, 2023, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-off-season-thread/979801/514 "2023-08-08T18:48:38Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> Don’t forget that SF led the league in fewest points allowed. It’s a lot easier to play with the lead and consistently decent field position.

SF had a really, **really** stout defense. Scary good.

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### Author: ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)
#### Post date: [August 8, 2023, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-off-season-thread/979801/515 "2023-08-08T18:52:47Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> SF had a really, **really** stout defense.

Yep, they were only blown out twice. By Philly and KC. Two Super Bowl teams.

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### Author: ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)
#### Post date: [August 8, 2023, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-off-season-thread/979801/516 "2023-08-08T19:11:28Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> Yep, they were only blown out twice. By Philly and KC.

And, the blowout loss to the Eagles was in the NFC Championship Game, when they played most of the game with zero healthy quarterbacks.

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### Author: ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)
#### Post date: [August 8, 2023, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-off-season-thread/979801/517 "2023-08-08T19:43:50Z")

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The 49ers defense played incredible that game. Despite three lost fumbles and a turnover on downs, they held the Eagles to 269 total yards (~3.9 y/play), 33% conversion rate on 3rd down, and 4.8 yards per attempt passing (Hurts’s season average was 8.0).

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### Author: ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)
#### Post date: [August 9, 2023, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-off-season-thread/979801/518 "2023-08-09T15:07:22Z")

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New rules: I get to throat punch anyone who

1. Uses the words “Russell Wilson” and “cook” in the same sentence.
2. Thinks Adam Schein has anything meaningful to add to any conversation about the NFL.
3. Describes any NFL football player over the age of 28 as “in the best shape of yheir career”.
4. Is Jerry Jones.

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### Author: ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)
#### Post date: [August 9, 2023, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-off-season-thread/979801/519 "2023-08-09T20:59:30Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> Uses the words “Russell Wilson” and “cook” in the same sentence.

I thought that meme died 3 years ago. 😵

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### Author: ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)
#### Post date: [August 9, 2023, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-off-season-thread/979801/520 "2023-08-09T21:10:34Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> 1. Is Jerry Jones.

At this point, it’d probably be easier to list the owners and/or GMs you don’t get to throat punch

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