# NFL 2023 Preseason Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** football-nfl\ **Created:** [July 27, 2023, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-preseason-thread/987698 "2023-07-27T19:32:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2023, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-preseason-thread/987698/101 "2023-08-22T02:12:20Z")
Just started watching Hard Knocks, or, if it were properly titled, “Sucking Aaron Rodger’s Dick”. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2023, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-preseason-thread/987698/102 "2023-08-22T02:56:20Z")
It’s crazy over-the-top how much they suck his dick. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2023, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-preseason-thread/987698/103 "2023-08-22T03:12:08Z")
While I think he’s a self-absorbed, me-first, egotistical prick, I do like that he’s got a relatively healthy view of what football’s role should be in his life. I’m also liking Saleh more and more and the Sauce Gardner/Garrett Wilson stuff is awesome. But please get Zach Wilson out of my face. He’s the Aidan Hutchenson’s desperate family of this year. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2023, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-preseason-thread/987698/104 "2023-08-22T03:19:38Z")
I’ve been so annoyed this preseason that Rodgers never took the field and we’ve been getting extra helpings of Zach Wilson instead. I totally get it; I wouldn’t put Rodgers out there in preseason either, but it’s still frustrating. ---
**Author:** ![SwissMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@SwissMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SwissMan)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2023, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-preseason-thread/987698/105 "2023-08-22T04:02:39Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > The Ravens extend the most pointless winning streak in sports with their 24th consecutive preseason victory. They have not lost a preseason game since 2015. And the streak is over; the Ravens lose tonight to the Commanders, 29-28. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2023, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-preseason-thread/987698/106 "2023-08-22T07:03:35Z")
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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2023, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-preseason-thread/987698/107 "2023-08-22T07:38:09Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > Yes. There might be a top-secret file locked in a safe somewhere, but the public will almost certainly never hear of it. More likely, the league’s muckety-mucks got into a room together, locked their devices in a box along with some NDAs, and did a post-mortem on the Hamlin game and discussed how to behave in the future. This informal agreement is likely the closest they’ll get to anything official. I don’t know if they could keep something like that a secret. If and when there is some horrible injury during a game, a lot of people are going to need to act pretty quickly. The training staff need to determine how serious the injury is. Game and league officials need to find out from the trainers, and decide if it’s serious enough to cancel the game. Then they need to determine if the game will be cancelled or rescheduled. If rescheduled, they need to find a time and place to continue the game. Travel plans need to be made. Tickets will be made available. The stadium needs enough staff to host the game. A secret plan that’s locked in a safe is the same as not having a plan. If you make a plan and want people to follow it, they need to know what it is. And once all those people know about it, it probably won’t stay a secret. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2023, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-preseason-thread/987698/108 "2023-08-22T08:57:08Z")
I think you’re assuming that it’s one Uber-plan. It’s basically just the commissioners offices plan for how to manage the game continuity part. They won’t bother with thresholds for injuries or any other tactical on-field stuff. The league and teams already have plenty of protocols for injuries, that doesn’t need to be secret. If we had another Hamlin-like situation on the field the only thing the folks in the stadium need to know is “call the league office before you decide anything about restarting the game”. The small handful of people watching the games at the league office either know the plan or have a bat phone to the commissioner and his bag men. It only takes 10-15 minutes to get a guy on the phone. A serious injury situation will take way longer than that to play out. But who cares. This is all some conspiracy theory tin foil hat stuff. Maybe the office is completely out to lunch and they will wing it next time. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2023, 8:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-preseason-thread/987698/109 "2023-08-22T08:59:26Z")
> [@SwissMan](#): > > And the streak is over; the Ravens lose tonight to the Commanders, 29-28. I confess I’m a little sad to see the dumbest record in all of sports to come to an end. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2023, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-preseason-thread/987698/110 "2023-08-22T17:15:21Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > One other interesting consideration…with the planet turning more into an unlivable hellscape every day, disruptions due to unprecedented natural disasters will certainly become more commonplace. The occasional hurricane or blizzard won’t be so occasional and we likely need to add wildfires and floods to the list of things that can wipe out a game (or players’ lives). This is distressingly sensible. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-preseason-thread/987698/111 "2023-08-23T22:29:01Z")
The Pro Football Hall of Fame’s Senior Committee announced their three finalist candidates for consideration this year: - Broncos LB Randy Gradishar - Bears DT Steve McMichael - Titans\*/Raiders WR Art Powell McMichael, who is battling ALS, and is now bedridden and unable to speak, was in the ICU earlier this week due to health complications. \*_- the AFL’s New York Titans, which became the Jets_ > **[Randy Gradishar, Steve McMichael, Art Powell selected as Senior finalists for...](https://www.nfl.com/news/randy-gradishar-steve-mcmichael-art-powell-senior-finalists-hall-of-fame)** > > The Hall of Fame’s Seniors Committee named three finalists to be considered for the HOF Class of 2024 on Wednesday -- linebacker Randy Gradishar, defensive tackle Steve McMichael and wide receiver Art Powell. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-preseason-thread/987698/112 "2023-08-25T16:23:47Z")
The Trey Lance experiment is officially over in San Francisco, as he is named the 3rd string QB after Purdy and Darnold. I’m guessing SF holds onto him long enough for some other team’s QB to get injured, so the Niners can at least get a little value for him. > **[The Trey Lance era in San Francisco is over: How the 49ers got it wrong, why...](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38253859/trey-lance-future-best-nfl-team-trade-fits-how-49ers-got-wrong-next)** > > The 49ers' 2020 trade for Trey Lance can now be considered a disaster. What could happen now with the 23-year-old quarterback? ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-preseason-thread/987698/113 "2023-08-25T19:27:25Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > The Trey Lance experiment is officially over in San Francisco, as he is named the 3rd string QB after Purdy and Darnold. It’s amazing to me that, despite burning three first round picks on a QB who gave them nothing in return, the Niners are still Super Bowl contenders. The generally accepted wisdom is that missing on a first-round QB can cost you five years. Here, not so much. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-preseason-thread/987698/114 "2023-08-25T19:34:30Z")
They’ve had a unique approach to the position; use young and inexpensive QBs to just manage the game, and spend the savings everywhere else. Get the ball to the expensive playmakers and let them make plays. Doesn’t work most of the time because young and inexpensive QBs tend to not be very good, but they got lucky with Purdy (though it still doesn’t nearly offset what they traded away for Lance). ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-preseason-thread/987698/115 "2023-08-25T22:33:14Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > (though it still doesn’t nearly offset what they traded away for Lance) The current regime has had a terrible track record on 1st Round draft picks. I’m not sure they lost that much. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-preseason-thread/987698/116 "2023-08-25T22:44:06Z")
> [@Akaj](#): > > It’s amazing to me that, despite burning three first round picks on a QB who gave them nothing in return, the Niners are still Super Bowl contenders. They have enjoyed both fantastic defenses and running games. And I think anyone can throw to George Kittle and be successful. He’s a cheat code. (Note I am a Seahawks fan so I am legally required to hate the Niners, but credit where credit is due.) ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-preseason-thread/987698/117 "2023-08-26T00:13:02Z")
And just like that, Trey Lance goes to the Cowboys for a 4th Round draft pick. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-preseason-thread/987698/118 "2023-08-26T01:12:39Z")
Well that’s unfortunate. I was kind of rooting for the kid, but now I have to hope he fails. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-preseason-thread/987698/119 "2023-08-26T01:49:57Z")
Craziest stat from Twitter: Trey Lance played a total of 8 games with the 49ers. That is the fewest games played by a top 5 pick with the team he debuted with since the start of the common draft era in 1967. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-preseason-thread/987698/120 "2023-08-26T03:28:21Z")
Yeah, and because of Covid and the injuries and all, he’s only thrown about 400-some in-game passing attempts since _high school_. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-preseason-thread/987698.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-preseason-thread/987698.md?page=7)