# NFL 2023 Preseason Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** football-nfl\ **Created:** [July 27, 2023, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-preseason-thread/987698 "2023-07-27T19:32:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![LoneRhino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lonerhino/32/1311_2.png) [@LoneRhino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LoneRhino)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-preseason-thread/987698/141 "2023-08-30T23:40:04Z")
I didn’t realize until yesterday that there was a week between pre-season and the regular season. I was looking forward to the Thursday night game to kick things off. Is this week in between something new or has it been this way for a while? ---
**Author:** ![LoneRhino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lonerhino/32/1311_2.png) [@LoneRhino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LoneRhino)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-preseason-thread/987698/142 "2023-08-30T23:43:29Z")
I wonder how many teams, other than the Cowboys, are willing to take on new QB’s at this stage. I’m sure that Belichek’s strategy took into account that there haven’t been any major QB injuries this pre-season. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-preseason-thread/987698/143 "2023-08-30T23:43:57Z")
The NFL avoids Labor Day weekend, so that part is not new. People often travel for the 3 day weekend and it’s the first weekend of the college season. ---
**Author:** ![LoneRhino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lonerhino/32/1311_2.png) [@LoneRhino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LoneRhino)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2023, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-preseason-thread/987698/144 "2023-08-31T00:03:10Z")
Got it. Makes sense. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2023, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-preseason-thread/987698/145 "2023-08-31T03:13:55Z")
> [@LoneRhino](#): > > Is this week in between something new or has it been this way for a while? No, I remember there being a “bye week” every year after they set their rosters, each team preparing for their opening game. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2023, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-preseason-thread/987698/146 "2023-08-31T03:22:04Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > The NFL avoids Labor Day weekend, so that part is not new. People often travel for the 3 day weekend and it’s the first weekend of the college season. This. The season used to start on Labor Day weekend, without a gap week between the final preseason games and the start of the regular season, but they changed it starting in 2001, for this very reason; they felt that it depressed interest in “opening weekend.” ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2023, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-preseason-thread/987698/147 "2023-08-31T11:59:58Z")
Michael Bidwell, current nepo-owner of the Arizona Cardinals is being “sued” (through the NFL arbitration system) includes allegations of discriminating on racial grounds, retaliatiatory firing for not cheating, and harassment by ex-VP of player personnel Terry McDonough. Former head coach Steve Wilks testified that when Steve Keim was suspended by the league in 2018 for DUI, Bidwell provided burner phones and forced Wilks and McDonough to communicate with Keim with them in clear violation of the NFL rule. When McDonough, at Wilk’s behest, told Bidwell they were uncomfortable with this plan, Bidwell yelled at him and wrote him up for “insuborination”. There are also allegations of other events of Bidwell being aggressive, foul-mouthed, and harassing to staff, including berating Wilks with a string of cuss words while Wilks 9 year old son could hear. Not that evidence of the Cardinals’ organization being a mess isnt already massively available, but sworn testimony of the cheating is new. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2023, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-preseason-thread/987698/148 "2023-08-31T15:53:37Z")
They may be regretting letting Dan Snyder go. He was a convenient lightning rod, running a franchise nobody really cares that much about. All the other owners’ free passes have now been revoked. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2023, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-preseason-thread/987698/149 "2023-08-31T17:14:03Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > they changed it starting in 2001 I couldn’t remember how it was that far back. 😆 > [@DCnDC](#): > > All the other owners’ free passes have now been revoked. “They won’t have ol’ Danny-boy to kick around anymore!” ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2023, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-preseason-thread/987698/150 "2023-08-31T23:55:50Z")
And the Patriots pickup another QB to back Jones. > **[Former Panthers QB Corral joins Pats as backup](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38300613/source-patriots-claim-former-panthers-qb-matt-corral)** > > The Patriots have claimed QB Matt Corral off waivers, giving New England a second quarterback behind Mac Jones on its 53-man roster. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-preseason-thread/987698/151 "2023-09-01T14:37:33Z")
Interesting trade logistics here: Last year, the Panthers traded up with the Patriots in the 3rd round to select Corral. The Pats received a 4th round pick, which they used to select Bailey Zappe, and a 3rd-rounder this year, which they used on LB Marte Mapu, who was a pre-season standout in camp. One year later, the Patriots have Corral, Zappe and Mapu, and the Panthers have…nothing. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-preseason-thread/987698/152 "2023-09-01T15:09:00Z")
The 49ers have entered the chat. ---
**Author:** ![LoneRhino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lonerhino/32/1311_2.png) [@LoneRhino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LoneRhino)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-preseason-thread/987698/153 "2023-09-01T18:01:06Z")
Here’s a 20 minute video of Patrick Mahomes being interviewed by Chris Simms. I Simms’s interviews with QB’s even though he fanboys a bit in this one. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKR5Af8mpT4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKR5Af8mpT4) ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2023, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-preseason-thread/987698/154 "2023-09-02T01:28:12Z")
> [@LoneRhino](#): > > I Simms’s interviews with QB’s even though he fanboys a bit in this one. It’s Mahomes so I would give him a pass. (No pun intended.) ---
**Author:** ![LoneRhino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lonerhino/32/1311_2.png) [@LoneRhino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LoneRhino)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2023, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-preseason-thread/987698/155 "2023-09-02T05:42:02Z")
I definitely get it. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2023, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-preseason-thread/987698/156 "2023-09-05T20:14:15Z")
Just letting everyone know / reminding people that we have [NFL pick 'em and survival pools](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-and-survival-leagues-2023/989478), everyone is welcome to play. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-preseason-thread/987698/157 "2023-09-06T13:59:15Z")
[All charges against Patriots cornerback Jack Jones have been dropped.](https://www.masslive.com/patriots/2023/09/da-drops-charges-against-patriots-cb-jack-jones.html) If you recall, he was arrested in June at Logan airport with 2 loaded handguns in his carryon. Charges included possession of firearms without an FID (which carries a [minimum 2.5 year sentence in MA](https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/Partiv/Titlei/Chapter269/Section10)) and possession of a firearm in a secure area of an airport. Charges were dropped in exchange for 1 year of pre-trial probation & 48 hours of community service. It seems his defense was based on someone else packing his bags for him, so the DA couldn’t prove he had knowledge of what was in his bag. There’s not a doubt in my mind that if the Patriots had won 13 games last year and gotten to the divisional round that Jones would have been released by the Patriots the day after his arrest and would be currently trying to work out a plea deal with only 2 years of prison. Must be nice to have Mr. Kraft on your side. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-preseason-thread/987698/158 "2023-09-06T15:51:24Z")
That is a pretty sweetheart deal, indeed. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-preseason-thread/987698/159 "2023-09-06T16:15:11Z")
Who the fuck doesn’t pack their own bag? What is he, a child? And if you are actually packing someone else’s bag, why the fuck would you put two loaded guns in there and not tell them?! C’mon. Anyone who buys that cockamamie bullshit I’ve got a bridge to sell you, cheap! ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-preseason-thread/987698/160 "2023-09-06T16:41:15Z")
Being charitable, some players have hangers-on. If he asked one to pack his bag, and they packed it thinking it would be checked and not a carryon. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-preseason-thread/987698.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-preseason-thread/987698.md?page=9)