# NFL 2023: Week 13 in a Baker's Dozen

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-13-in-a-bakers-dozen/993880>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** football-nfl\
**Created:** [November 29, 2023, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-13-in-a-bakers-dozen/993880 "2023-11-29T23:14:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2023, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-13-in-a-bakers-dozen/993880/41 "2023-12-03T20:18:53Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Lightning?

Yup. While there aren’t any severe thunderstorm warnings issued for the Pittsburgh area right now, it does look like thunderstorms are moving through.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2023, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-13-in-a-bakers-dozen/993880/42 "2023-12-03T20:21:01Z")

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The Pittsburgh Tribune website said

> Steelers’ game against Cardinals delayed at halftime because of lightning alert

ETA: They just kicked off for the second half

ETA ETA: Kenny Pickett is out for the game; Mitch Trubisky in at quarterback.

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**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2023, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-13-in-a-bakers-dozen/993880/43 "2023-12-03T21:05:33Z")

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> [@zimaane](#):
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> An odd quirk of the Seattle Dallas game that just ended:
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> No punts

The Chargers and Pats made up for it.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2023, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-13-in-a-bakers-dozen/993880/44 "2023-12-03T21:24:17Z")

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> [@borschevsky](#):
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> The Chargers and Pats made up for it.

I was wondering if (hoping that?) the broadcaster would switch to a more interesting game even in the New England market. I went to the grocery store during the game, and it was packed. A few years ago the three hours of a Pats game were deserted in stores.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2023, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-13-in-a-bakers-dozen/993880/45 "2023-12-03T21:25:38Z")

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> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#):
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> I was wondering if (hoping that?) the broadcaster would switch to a more interesting game even in the New England market.

Unlikely. Even if the home team is terrible, or the game is a blowout, I think that the broadcast rights mandate that the network sticks with that game, in the teams’ home markets, to the bitter end.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2023, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-13-in-a-bakers-dozen/993880/46 "2023-12-03T21:30:18Z")

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The most interesting facet of this Patriots season has been watching the change in the local support. For twenty years, everyone seemed to worship at the church of Belichick , Brady and Kraft. Even the last few years after Brady left, everyone was confident that Bill and Bob would pull a rabbit out of the hat. This year it’s quite different.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2023, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-13-in-a-bakers-dozen/993880/47 "2023-12-03T22:16:11Z")

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It’s very Elite Dragon in here.

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**Author:** ![zimaane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a3d4f5/32.png) [@zimaane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zimaane)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2023, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-13-in-a-bakers-dozen/993880/48 "2023-12-03T23:24:49Z")

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Trading away good players will do that, alas

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2023, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-13-in-a-bakers-dozen/993880/49 "2023-12-03T23:25:16Z")

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What does this mean?

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**Post date:** [December 3, 2023, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-13-in-a-bakers-dozen/993880/50 "2023-12-03T23:34:59Z")

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Oh it’s an old meme about Joe Flacco. He’s actually looked really good especially for a guy who hasn’t had much time from the playbook. Browns receivers are dropping everything this year so the stats don’t fully reflect it but other than a string of good play here and there by Watson, Flacco’s play today is way better than anything else the Browns have done this year.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2023, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-13-in-a-bakers-dozen/993880/51 "2023-12-03T23:39:02Z")

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Great crap, the Eagles defense is a sieve with holes as big as Wyoming. And Jalen has the ball… still has ball… yep, still has it…🙄

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2023, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-13-in-a-bakers-dozen/993880/52 "2023-12-04T00:40:40Z")

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It took a while to get going, but my 49ers absolutely wholloped the Eagles. They’ll probably meet again in the playoffs, but that was stressful and satisfying to watch.

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**Post date:** [December 4, 2023, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-13-in-a-bakers-dozen/993880/53 "2023-12-04T00:41:43Z")

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Colts game had a weird couple of plays in a row against the Titans.

We blocked a punt and returned it 18 yards for a touchdown.

Then the Titans intercepted our 2-point conversion attempt and returned it all the way back for a _defensive_ 2-point conversion.

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**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2023, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-13-in-a-bakers-dozen/993880/54 "2023-12-04T01:01:13Z")

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McCaffrey is the best football player on Earth.

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**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2023, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-13-in-a-bakers-dozen/993880/55 "2023-12-04T01:16:02Z")

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looks like there were more crappy games than usual today …

and the 202x Patriots are going to join the 80s Packers in the “we have to remind everyone we were once NFL gods years ago for the next 20 years”

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**Post date:** [December 4, 2023, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-13-in-a-bakers-dozen/993880/56 "2023-12-04T01:23:44Z")

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> [@nightshadea](#):
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> looks like there were more crappy games than usual today …

Guess it depends on your definition of crappy games.

There have been 10 games thus far today. 6 of them were one score games.

Granted, one of those one-score games was Chargers over the Pats, 6-0. Another was the Bucs over the Panthers 21-18. The most-hyped game, Niners/Eagles, was a blowout.

OK, you make a good point.

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**Post date:** [December 4, 2023, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-13-in-a-bakers-dozen/993880/57 "2023-12-04T01:29:30Z")

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I only watched one game. 🥵😳🕶🥳

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2023, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-13-in-a-bakers-dozen/993880/58 "2023-12-04T02:43:01Z")

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They said the Dolphins score was a scorigami!

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**Post date:** [December 4, 2023, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-13-in-a-bakers-dozen/993880/59 "2023-12-04T02:44:49Z")

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Correct! The Dolphins’ 45-15 win over the Commanders had never occurred before.

13-8 (Falcons over Jets) and 36-19 (Rams over Browns) had only occurred once before.

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**Post date:** [December 4, 2023, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-13-in-a-bakers-dozen/993880/60 "2023-12-04T04:24:50Z")

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Ugly officiating at the end of this game. Both ways.

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