# NFL 2023: Week 13 in a Baker's Dozen **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** football-nfl\ **Created:** [November 29, 2023, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-13-in-a-bakers-dozen/993880 "2023-11-29T23:14:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2023, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-13-in-a-bakers-dozen/993880/61 "2023-12-04T04:26:37Z")
I’m also quite afraid that Jordan Love might actually be good. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2023, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-13-in-a-bakers-dozen/993880/62 "2023-12-04T04:30:01Z")
I’m a KC fan and I hate the Packers, but if that isn’t DPI, then what is? ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2023, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-13-in-a-bakers-dozen/993880/63 "2023-12-04T04:32:27Z")
Yep, shouldn’t have been 15 yards on the Mahomes hit, but that was as blatant of a DPI as I’ve seen. But KC gets all the calls. ---
**Author:** ![zimaane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a3d4f5/32.png) [@zimaane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zimaane)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2023, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-13-in-a-bakers-dozen/993880/64 "2023-12-04T04:42:09Z")
It’s like they were trying to show that they are unbiased by making bad calls on both teams. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2023, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-13-in-a-bakers-dozen/993880/65 "2023-12-04T04:57:11Z")
> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#): > > The most interesting facet of this Patriots season has been watching the change in the local support. For twenty years, everyone seemed to worship at the church of Belichick , Brady and Kraft. Even the last few years after Brady left, everyone was confident that Bill and Bob would pull a rabbit out of the hat. This year it’s quite different. Boston sports fans are spoiled rotten. Since I moved to the area they’ve won championships in all four major sports, some of them multiple times. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2023, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-13-in-a-bakers-dozen/993880/66 "2023-12-04T04:59:26Z")
Well, Boston was never truly a football city. It was and always has been a basketball/baseball town. ---
**Author:** ![2gigch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/2gigch1/32/3313_2.png) [@2gigch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2gigch1)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2023, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-13-in-a-bakers-dozen/993880/67 "2023-12-04T06:30:08Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Since I moved to the area they’ve won championships in all four major sports, some of them multiple times. And did they thank you? No? Freakin ingrates. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2023, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-13-in-a-bakers-dozen/993880/68 "2023-12-04T11:25:28Z")
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**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2023, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-13-in-a-bakers-dozen/993880/69 "2023-12-04T12:37:01Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > A Monday Night football game has been flexed, as this year is the first time it’s been allowed. It will happen during Week 15, when the Patriots were scheduled to host the Chiefs on MNF. Good! After their pitiful loss to the hated Packers, I hope they don’t darken my TV screen again until the playoffs. 😐 ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2023, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-13-in-a-bakers-dozen/993880/70 "2023-12-04T12:38:48Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > That line surprises me, but the oddsmakers know a helluva lot more than Not enough to predict the Niners would bitch slap the Eagles in their home stadium. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2023, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-13-in-a-bakers-dozen/993880/71 "2023-12-04T15:09:28Z")
So I’m a diehard Eagles fan, but what the hell was with “Dom” putting himself in between Greenlaw and Smith, and pushing on Greenlaw’s chest, on the sideline? I know they both got ejected, but I thought that was a big no-no, for anyone not a player to go onto the field or touch a player on the other team. It’s not security’s job to interfere in player altercations, that’s the official’s job. Having said that, if the NFC championship is between the 49ers & Eagles (likely), and in Philadelphia (fingers crossed), I’m assuming everyone in the stands will be wearing a “Dom” shirt. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2023, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-13-in-a-bakers-dozen/993880/72 "2023-12-04T15:10:15Z")
> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#): > > I’m a KC fan and I hate the Packers, but if that isn’t DPI, then what is? Well, it definitely isn’t the one called on the Packers for incidental contact on an uncatchable ball not that long before. I’m not sure PI ever gets called on a hail mary anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2023, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-13-in-a-bakers-dozen/993880/73 "2023-12-04T15:17:35Z")
I was talking about the one at about 40 seconds to go. ---
**Author:** ![zimaane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a3d4f5/32.png) [@zimaane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zimaane)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2023, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-13-in-a-bakers-dozen/993880/74 "2023-12-04T15:24:32Z")
The play in question starts at about 4:46 in this video: [Bing Videos](https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?q=chiefs+vs+packers&mid=7151DDA63A4DCC8583A57151DDA63A4DCC8583A5&FORM=VIRE) Definitely seems like it should have been a DPI call ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2023, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-13-in-a-bakers-dozen/993880/75 "2023-12-04T15:35:27Z")
> [@zimaane](#): > > Definitely seems like it should have been a DPI call Oh, yea. I was comparing to the phantom DPI earlier which I couldn’t find in the video. It was like the refs couldn’t decide who they wanted to win. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2023, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-13-in-a-bakers-dozen/993880/76 "2023-12-04T16:55:25Z")
> [@zimaane](#): > > Definitely seems like it should have been a DPI call I would’ve called it, but it isn’t nearly as egregious as some. Think of it as a makeup call for the “illegal touching of Patrick Mahomes” penalty and the “sure his forward progress was stopped in bounds, but this is exciting and the Chiefs are out of timeouts, so we’ll stop the clock for them” calls earlier. That said, reffing is a very tough job at the NFL level. Its a shame that their mistakes are the main talking point after almost every game. ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2023, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-13-in-a-bakers-dozen/993880/77 "2023-12-04T20:08:44Z")
> [@Southern\_Yankee](#): > > McCaffrey is the best football player on Earth. You know he’s having a good game by the amount of blood dripping off his elbows. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2023, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-13-in-a-bakers-dozen/993880/78 "2023-12-04T20:15:12Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > That said, reffing is a very tough job at the NFL level. Its a shame that their mistakes are the main talking point after almost every game. I agree but there was an official standing a handful of yards away watching a defender play piggy-back on a receiver and riding him like a horse before the ball arrives. I can’t see any reasonable explanation for that except extremely poor decision-making. It’s one thing to not see it, it’s another to see it and decide not to throw a flag. I’m not citing bias, I’m citing exceptional incompetency. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2023, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-13-in-a-bakers-dozen/993880/79 "2023-12-05T04:38:24Z")
It’d never happen, but I’ve long thought that if the defender touches a passed ball first it’s not DPI. It could still be holding. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2023, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-13-in-a-bakers-dozen/993880/80 "2023-12-05T04:45:50Z")
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