# NFL 2023: Week 15 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** football-nfl\ **Created:** [December 13, 2023, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-15/994557 "2023-12-13T15:22:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-15/994557/61 "2023-12-16T23:24:39Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > And Staley is toast Retired 49ers left tackle Joe Staley, who lives near San Diego, is apparently getting insulting social media harassment. Because people are stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-15/994557/62 "2023-12-17T01:48:24Z")
> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#): > > 5 of the 6 teams playing today were 7-6 coming in? Correct. With their wins, the Bengals and Colts, both 8-6, now both hold playoff spots, pending the outcome of other games this weekend. The Steelers (7-7) are now outside of the playoff hunt. The Vikes (7-7) still have a WC spot in the NFC, also pending results of other games. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-15/994557/63 "2023-12-17T03:38:14Z")
Another offensive offside call. The Toney call was what my referee trainers would call a “stadium call;” this one was the tickiest of tacks at best. ---
**Author:** ![LoneRhino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lonerhino/32/1311_2.png) [@LoneRhino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LoneRhino)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-15/994557/64 "2023-12-17T04:11:01Z")
The Vikings-Bengals game was fun. The announcing team however, was pretty bad. My favorite part of the broadcast was when the Bengals had the ball with less than 2 minutes to go, down by 7, and the NFL network had the field goal line showing. Did they think the Bengals might kick a field goal? ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-15/994557/65 "2023-12-17T04:48:37Z")
I missed the Vikings-Bengals game because I am dumb and it never occurred to me to check NFLN. I scanned the channels + Amazon and saw no early game and figured I’d wait. Guess if I were marginally intelligent I would have Googled it sooner than I did. Seems like I missed a good one. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-15/994557/66 "2023-12-17T16:34:19Z")
The Lions are baffling, which I guess is what you’d expect from a team with little experience winning. They dominated despite Denver coming in hot and Goff recently looking like crap. I’d hate to be a bookie responsible for setting odds on them. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-15/994557/67 "2023-12-17T17:05:45Z")
I know, what a hot and cold team the Lions have been. One of the announcers toward the end of the game said something like “I guess the Bears and Packers are just too familiar with the Lions’ plays, being in the same division”. I wonder if there’s something to that. The Lions have two games still against the Vikings, so that will be interesting. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-15/994557/68 "2023-12-17T20:29:44Z")
Browns are just depleted. They showed a graphic that said something like 30% of the Browns salary cap is on IR. OL is mostly second and third stringers and getting wrecked. They’re playing hard but they just can’t overcome how beat up they are sometimes. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-15/994557/69 "2023-12-17T20:32:20Z")
The Packers’ defense is making Baker Mayfield look like Tom Brady today. ☹ Dude just threw his fourth passing TD of the game, and has a perfect passer rating for the day. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-15/994557/70 "2023-12-17T21:01:43Z")
Jets = offensive futility. Even among the woofers of games recently. Browns - Bears punt #19 coming and that’s with multiple interceptions. ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-15/994557/71 "2023-12-17T21:12:03Z")
Flacc Attack! ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-15/994557/72 "2023-12-17T21:25:36Z")
Holy shit, the Bears almost made that Hail Mary play. But no, instead they did what was an almost Brownsian choke job. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-15/994557/73 "2023-12-17T21:27:04Z")
Almost an unbelievable ending in Cleveland. Browns survive and have the top wild-card seed in the AFC. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-15/994557/74 "2023-12-17T21:29:11Z")
This Browns team is tough and gritty. Leading the league in IR players, on their 4th quarterback of the season, offensive line in particular is starting dudes they pulled out of the stadium crowd, but they’re playing hard and physically punishing football with just enough to pull it out at the end. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-15/994557/75 "2023-12-17T21:29:39Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > They showed a graphic that said something like 30% of the Browns salary cap is on IR. Next year Deshaun Watson will be a $64M cap hit, the largest in NFL history. (It’s only $19M this year.) I’m reading that the cap should be $276M next year for the Browns. By my math if Watson goes on the IR next year that will be 23% of the cap. For just one guy. So by that perspective, their current state doesn’t seem that bad. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-15/994557/76 "2023-12-17T23:30:36Z")
The Bills are absolutely dominating the Cowboys on both sides of the ball. I did not see this coming. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2023, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-15/994557/77 "2023-12-18T00:58:05Z")
Giants get crushed, Jets get embarrassed, and the one potentially interesting game on my broadcast today ended up being the Bills trouncing the Cowboys in a laugher. Not the best NFL Sunday, and unfortunately I canceled NFL Network last year so I got no games yesterday either. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2023, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-15/994557/78 "2023-12-18T01:02:48Z")
Panthers eke one out over a terrible, terrible Falcons team, but the Bears still holding onto their #1 pick. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2023, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-15/994557/79 "2023-12-18T03:24:05Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > Not the best NFL Sunday The Jaguars/Ravens game is sloppy on both sides and a bit painful as well. ---
**Author:** ![zimaane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a3d4f5/32.png) [@zimaane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zimaane)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2023, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-15/994557/80 "2023-12-18T04:29:54Z")
> **[Nobody went to see the Panthers-Falcons game despite ridiculously cheap tickets](https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/panthers/2023/12/17/panthers-fans-empty-stadium-despite-cheap-tickets/71952024007/)** > > There was a noticeable lack of fans at Bank of America Stadium as the Carolina Panthers face the Atlanta Falcons. Panthers fan show their disapproval by not showing up, despite tickets being available for 45 _cents_. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-15/994557.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-15/994557.md?page=5)