# NFL 2023: Week 16

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-16/994895>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** football-nfl\
**Created:** [December 20, 2023, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-16/994895 "2023-12-20T18:07:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2023, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-16/994895/41 "2023-12-24T20:05:13Z")

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Some fantastic officiating in this Tennessee/Seattle game.

During a punt, the receiver gives the “fair catch” signal.

As he’s making the catch, a defender gets his hands on the receiver and tries to interfere with the catch. The receiver pushes him off.

The result? Unsportsmanlike conduct on the receiver.

Classy move, officials.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2023, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-16/994895/42 "2023-12-24T20:15:25Z")

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Amari Cooper is one of the most underrated players in the league and I thought that before he was even on the Browns. I hope the elite dragon keeps chucking it and they take a run at the NFL single game receiving record.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2023, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-16/994895/43 "2023-12-24T20:20:42Z")

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I have some issues with Stefanski but he should probably be one of the leading contenders for coach of the year. The browns are on their 4th quarterback and are leading the league on IR and they’re 10-5 in the toughest division.

Not to his credit, the Browns are leading the NFL in giving up turnovers and have the most points off turnovers scored against them, and yet, again, 10-5. Pretty remarkable.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2023, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-16/994895/44 "2023-12-24T20:27:29Z")

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Seeing what the Texans look like without Stroud, he 100% deserves MVP this year.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2023, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-16/994895/45 "2023-12-24T20:48:29Z")

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Flacco now has 7 interceptions in 4 games, but the Browns’ awesome defense is continuing to dominate, so he’s getting the wins and a ton of hype. If the Browns get to face the Bears and a Stroud-less Texans in the playoffs, they’ll be in great shape.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2023, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-16/994895/46 "2023-12-24T20:49:32Z")

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You just can’t understand the mysterious ways of the Browns legend Joe Flacco.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2023, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-16/994895/47 "2023-12-24T20:53:10Z")

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Hah! You laughed at my prediction of Joe Flacco for MVP upthread! (provokes curse)

(future news next week). Flacco is injured, Browns to start 5th different QB this season (Jeff Garcia).

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2023, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-16/994895/48 "2023-12-24T21:17:22Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> Amari Cooper is one of the most underrated players in the league

Browns placekicker is injured, so they keep going for it on fourth down. And every time Flacco finds Cooper for a first down. Cooper now has 11 catches for 265 yards and two touchdowns.

ETA: The Lions have just won their first divisional title since 1993.

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**Author:** ![SwissMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@SwissMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SwissMan)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2023, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-16/994895/49 "2023-12-24T21:20:12Z")

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The Jets are pulling a huge yak job. They led 27-7 at half and now trail Washington 28-27 with 2 minutes left. This is the kind of game that may get Robert Saleh fired.

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**Author:** ![SwissMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@SwissMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SwissMan)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2023, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-16/994895/50 "2023-12-24T21:21:33Z")

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The Lions win 30-24 to win their first division title since 1993. As a result, Ford Field will host its first ever home playoff game (the only previous postseason contest there was Super Bowl XL).

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2023, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-16/994895/51 "2023-12-24T21:25:30Z")

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The Packers beat the woeful Panthers, 33-30, to keep their playoff hopes alive, but holy hell, their defense really tried to give that game away. They were up by 14 points in the 4th quarter, gave up two Bryce Young TD passes to tie it up, and after pulling ahead with a field goal, the Pack nearly let Carolina get off a last-second field goal to tie it back up.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2023, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-16/994895/52 "2023-12-24T21:33:57Z")

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> [@SwissMan](#):
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> The Jets are pulling a huge yak job.

But they come back and win the game 30-28 with a 54 yard FG with 5 seconds left.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2023, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-16/994895/53 "2023-12-24T21:59:12Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> The Packers beat the woeful Panthers, 33-30, to keep their playoff hopes alive, but holy hell, their defense really tried to give that game away.

Panthers barely pull off a win.

By “win” I mean another step in their effort to get good draft positions, though that first pick is going to Chicago. If I was a Bears fan I’d be cheering the crap out of every Panther loss.

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**Author:** ![zimaane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a3d4f5/32.png) [@zimaane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zimaane)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2023, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-16/994895/54 "2023-12-24T23:03:20Z")

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Washington turned things around on offense when they pulled Sam Howell ( 6/22, no TDs, 2 it’s, passer rating _1.7_ ) for Jacoby Brisset.

But in the end it wasn’t enough. Still, Brisset has potential

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2023, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-16/994895/55 "2023-12-24T23:13:05Z")

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> [@zimaane](#):
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> But in the end it wasn’t enough. Still, Brisset has potential

Brisset is 31 years old, has 48 starts in the NFL, is in his 8th year, and is on his 5th team. His “potential” has pretty clearly been realized: he’s an OK NFL backup.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2023, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-16/994895/56 "2023-12-24T23:20:39Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> Brisset is 31 years old, has 48 starts in the NFL, is in his 8th year, and is on his 5th team. His “potential” has pretty clearly been realized

Sounds kind of like Geno Smith when he first arrived in Seattle.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2023, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-16/994895/57 "2023-12-25T00:27:05Z")

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Running this one again. GB pass defense made Brice Young look like a legitimate QB. But it was a win, still alive.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2023, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-16/994895/58 "2023-12-25T00:34:31Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> Sounds kind of like Geno Smith when he first arrived in Seattle.

Yep. Maybe Brissett has an outlier year in him too.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2023, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-16/994895/59 "2023-12-25T01:01:44Z")

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Like Nick Foles.

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**Author:** ![zimaane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a3d4f5/32.png) [@zimaane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zimaane)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2023, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-16/994895/60 "2023-12-25T03:16:47Z")

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Maybe he’s a late bloomer 🤔

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