# NFL 2023: WEEK TEN Amendments

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-ten-amendments/992962>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** football-nfl\
**Created:** [November 10, 2023, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-ten-amendments/992962 "2023-11-10T22:23:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Clawdio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d07c76/32.png) [@Clawdio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clawdio)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2023, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-ten-amendments/992962/41 "2023-11-13T13:33:45Z")

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Another smoke & mirrors win for the Steelers, although they did have over 200 yards rushing this week which is probably a pretty good recipe for a W for any team most of the time.

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2023, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-ten-amendments/992962/42 "2023-11-13T21:53:48Z")

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-ten-amendments/992962/43 "2023-11-14T03:41:04Z")

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Sloppy Joe night in Buffalo tonight.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-ten-amendments/992962/44 "2023-11-14T04:30:15Z")

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Wow, what a horrific 12 men penalty.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-ten-amendments/992962/45 "2023-11-14T04:30:35Z")

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Yet another walk-off field goal!

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-ten-amendments/992962/46 "2023-11-14T04:32:48Z")

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Oof. My wife (who is from Buffalo) was so relieved to see that FG attempt miss, and then … that flag. And not some BS penalty, just sloppy counting by the Bills. Man. What the hell is up with the Bills this season. Was expecting them to be more like 8-2 at this point.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-ten-amendments/992962/47 "2023-11-14T04:33:51Z")

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So tell me, why didn’t Buffalo have their field-goal defense on the field on 3rd down? Denver was obviously going to kneel and then kick it on 4th down. Instead, Bills have to rush in a whole new defensive unit and got a stupid penalty that cost them the game.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-ten-amendments/992962/48 "2023-11-14T04:40:49Z")

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Actually, yeah, that’s incredible. 6 games doubles the previous record.

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**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-ten-amendments/992962/49 "2023-11-14T05:09:39Z")

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Giving flashbacks to a certain set of CFL fans with that too-many-men missed FG ending.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-ten-amendments/992962/50 "2023-11-14T06:01:42Z")

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Russell Wilson may have left Seattle, yet his team still benefits from the 12th Man.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-ten-amendments/992962/51 "2023-11-14T15:03:16Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> Ehat the hell is up with the Bills this season. Was expecting them to be more like 8-2 at this point.

They’re #2 in the NFL with 18 giveawaus and #6 in penalties. Hard to excel with those kinds of problems.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-ten-amendments/992962/52 "2023-11-14T17:23:15Z")

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Ken Dorsey out in Buffalo.

> <https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1724462123776987346>

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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-ten-amendments/992962/53 "2023-11-14T18:34:14Z")

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If Dorsey didn’t want to get fired, he shouldn’t have thrown all those interceptions! Oh, wait…

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-ten-amendments/992962/54 "2023-11-14T18:42:27Z")

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Its never your 50 million dollar a year franchise QB’s fault.

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-ten-amendments/992962/55 "2023-11-14T22:33:40Z")

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50 million dollars?! Who do they think they got, Chelsea Clinton?!

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-ten-amendments/992962/56 "2023-11-14T23:09:46Z")

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As a player, Dorsey started ten games for my 49ers during the worst times in my now-38 years being a fan. He threw 8 TDs to 11 INTs - not good but his best WR was Cedric Wilson. He went 0/7 later with the Browns. Learn from the best, Josh.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-ten-amendments/992962/57 "2023-11-15T00:20:29Z")

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> [@ekedolphin](#):
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> Who do they think they got, Chelsea Clinton?!

I got excited thinking that she was available as a QB, but when I looked up “Chelsea Football” in Google all I got was some dumb soccer team in England. ☹

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-ten-amendments/992962/58 "2023-11-15T04:45:18Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> So tell me, why didn’t Buffalo have their field-goal defense on the field on 3rd down? Denver was obviously going to kneel and then kick it on 4th down. Instead, Bills have to rush in a whole new defensive unit and got a stupid penalty that cost them the game.

What I’m struggling to understand is why the Bills weren’t entitled extra time to substitute here? We’ve seen refs holding up the snap on a hurry up offense to allow the defense to get substitutions in. Why doesn’t that kind of thing apply on these FG attempts?

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**Author:** ![Kimble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kimble/32/19185_2.png) [@Kimble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimble)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-ten-amendments/992962/59 "2023-11-15T05:12:24Z")

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> [@Omniscient](#):
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> What I’m struggling to understand is why the Bills weren’t entitled extra time to substitute here? We’ve seen refs holding up the snap on a hurry up offense to allow the defense to get substitutions in. Why doesn’t that kind of thing apply on these FG attempts?

They had all the time they needed; they just lined up 12 people in the kick block formation. Six on the line to the right of the snapper (from their perspective), 5 on the line to the left, and a safety a few yards back whose job was to count to 10 (although they were out of timeouts IIRC, so I don’t know if there was anything he could have done about it).

For the rekick, they had 6 to the right and 4 to the left. I didn’t get to watch most of the game (or most Bills games), so I don’t know if that’s typical for them or not.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-week-ten-amendments/992962/60 "2023-11-15T06:03:35Z")

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I’m aware how 12 men penalties work. Likely a contributing factor was the confusion caused by the Broncos running their kicking team on at the last second.

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