# NFL 2023: Wildcard Weekend

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-wildcard-weekend/995866>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** football-nfl\
**Created:** [January 10, 2024, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-wildcard-weekend/995866 "2024-01-10T02:46:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-wildcard-weekend/995866/61 "2024-01-13T05:17:46Z")

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That was the game that got me into nfl football. I was a senior in high school and was going to be moving to San Diego in the Fall for college. So the Chargers became my team.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-wildcard-weekend/995866/62 "2024-01-13T16:32:13Z")

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The problems of the Eagles just got worse.

> **[Sources: Eagles WR Brown (knee) out vs. Bucs](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39299204/sources-eagles-aj-brown-vs-buccaneers-knee-injury)**
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> Eagles wide receiver A.J. Brown, who worked hard in his rehab to try to make it back this week, is out for Monday night's wild-card matchup against the Buccaneers with a knee injury, sources told ESPN's Adam Schefter.

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**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-wildcard-weekend/995866/63 "2024-01-13T16:44:19Z")

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While not a perfect analogy, Odell Beckham Jr. and the wide receivers of the New York Giants partied in Miami the week before a playoff game in Green Bay in 2017. The temperature at kickoff was 8 degrees, with a 1 degree windchill. It went about as expected.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-wildcard-weekend/995866/64 "2024-01-13T17:26:25Z")

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Bills/Steelers has been moved to Monday, which is probably the right call. Things seem to still be green lit in Kansas City for tonight. Someone’s really going to have Marquez Valdez Scantling dropping a pass in the end zone be the last thing they ever see before they succumb to hypothermia.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-wildcard-weekend/995866/65 "2024-01-13T17:38:29Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> Bills/Steelers has been moved to Monday, which is probably the right call.

I was looking at the betting lines on that game this morning. The over/under was 33.5, and I was going to bet the under because of the impending blizzard. Glad I didn’t.

The over/under now, about four hours after I looked this morning, is 38. The Bills remain 9.5 point favorites.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-wildcard-weekend/995866/66 "2024-01-13T18:03:49Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> The over/under was 33.5, and I was going to bet the under because of the impending blizzard.

Now I can’t find it, but I was reading yesterday about how the over more often wins in bad weather games. The bookies have already built weather into the line, but people reflexively bet under so the line is usually lower than it really should be.

This is true for cold weather and especially snow, which actually helps the offense more than defense. It is less true for high winds.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-wildcard-weekend/995866/67 "2024-01-13T18:30:22Z")

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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> This is true for cold weather and especially snow, which actually helps the offense more than defense. It is less true for high winds.

Correct. But since the forecast was for heavy snow, single-digit temps, **and** 40-60 mph winds, I was relatively certain that few points would be scored. (I certainly remember the ‘snowplow’ game, which ended 3-0.)

Guess we’ll never know.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-wildcard-weekend/995866/68 "2024-01-13T19:27:05Z")

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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> > [@Atamasama](#):
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> > Those are some of the best games ever.
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> For TV viewers, I agree. It’s great entertainment to see players sliding all over the place, the field crew trying to keep the yard lines plowed, field goals [blown backwards.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfIBqEaXUmg) But I really think it’s a safety issue for the fans with getting to the game in 3 feet of snow or risking frostbite in brutal winds.

I had never seen that before; it was amazing.

And disconcerting to see redneck fans waving huge confederate flags at a NCAA football game.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-wildcard-weekend/995866/69 "2024-01-13T22:03:24Z")

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I think the Bills line is too high. Cold weather games can be unpredictable. I am kind of disgusted that I think I want Pittsburgh to win. I even really like Buffalo. But if the Steelers win then they play the Ravens and being an AFC North game they’re going to beat the shit out of each other. Which negates a lot of the rest advantage their bye week game. Or the Steelers may win. AFC North game, that shit happens, in which case the Browns can get a home game. But I don’t know that I can actually bring myself to cheer Pittsburgh if they’re not playing Baltimore.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-wildcard-weekend/995866/70 "2024-01-13T22:27:03Z")

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Would you believe this is a historically great pass defense?

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**Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-wildcard-weekend/995866/71 "2024-01-13T22:32:29Z")

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My God the receiver was tackled a full second before the ball got there and no call

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-wildcard-weekend/995866/72 "2024-01-13T22:34:26Z")

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Why are there so many bad calls by refs?

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-wildcard-weekend/995866/73 "2024-01-13T22:43:19Z")

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Haha that guy did some breakdancing on Flacco’s head but no call. Wtf are they doing this game?

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-wildcard-weekend/995866/74 "2024-01-13T22:47:10Z")

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That was humorous. And not intentional; momentum.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-wildcard-weekend/995866/75 "2024-01-13T22:54:01Z")

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[![](https://i.imgflip.com/8c9i62.gif) ](https://i.imgflip.com/8c9i62.gif)

Refs like the Houston moneyline

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-wildcard-weekend/995866/76 "2024-01-13T23:03:09Z")

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Abysmal play by the Browns secondary, 3 blown coverages leading to 2 TDs and one overthrow which would have meant a third one.

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**Author:** ![TreacherousCretin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treacherouscretin/32/476_2.png) [@TreacherousCretin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TreacherousCretin)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-wildcard-weekend/995866/77 "2024-01-13T23:17:50Z")

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> [@Bullitt](#):
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> One of the best playoff games ever. After the game, Kellen Winslow being helped off the field by two teammates is a classic image. And the Dolphins’ hook-and-lateral play before halftime was a fantastic surprise. A great game.

We watched it live. Still the best playoff game ever. And Kellen Winslow is still my all-time favorite NFL player.

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-wildcard-weekend/995866/78 "2024-01-13T23:32:07Z")

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And its over.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-wildcard-weekend/995866/79 "2024-01-13T23:32:17Z")

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Uggh, as soon as Flacco softly lobbed that pass half a mile in the air for grabs I knew it was bad news…

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**Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2023-wildcard-weekend/995866/80 "2024-01-13T23:38:30Z")

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Two in a row. What a bozo.

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