# NFL 2024-25: Week 14

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-14/1011119>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** football-nfl\
**Created:** [December 3, 2024, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-14/1011119 "2024-12-03T15:13:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 16\
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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-14/1011119/61 "2024-12-09T18:12:23Z")

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People will almost certainly still buy beer and other concessions, so there’s still money to be made. Also, given the fees TicketMaster (or whoever) charges plus local taxes and so forth, those tickets will probably still end up being at least $50.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-14/1011119/62 "2024-12-09T18:12:43Z")

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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> You could get tickets for the Giants game yesterday for $1.

Just idly curious as to what time of day that price was offered? Do you remember?

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-14/1011119/63 "2024-12-09T21:44:37Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> Is there any reason the Browns are holding onto their kicker?

My guess would be some combination of:

- He’s an experienced kicker, who made 92% of his field goals last year – and, thus, they’re hoping that he’s just in a temporary slump.
- The kickers who are out there on the waiver wire are still available because they aren’t any better. Even Anders Frickin’ Carlson is on a roster right now – though it’s the Jets, so it only sort-of counts. 😉

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-14/1011119/64 "2024-12-09T22:16:53Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> People will almost certainly still buy beer and other concessions, so there’s still money to be made.

Yup!

Many (oh dear God so many) years ago, I worked for the US Navy Morale Welfare and Recreation (MWR) organization, working at a movie theater on a US Navy base (where customers were all members of the US Navy or Marine Corps and their families). We sold tickets for $2 a film. While this was a long time ago (last century in fact to make me feel old), that was still an insanely low price back then. We also sold concessions at a very reasonable price compared to what it would cost you in a regular movie theater, and they were the usual options of candy, popcorn, hot dogs, nachos, and so on. Our prices were so good that we sometimes had people pay the $2 ticket price to get in the lobby, buy concessions, then leave the theater with their cheap food.

Yet we still made a profit. (Not a huge one, as it was a service offered to military families and profit wasn’t the goal, but my manager took pride in the fact that we actually made money.) Because honestly, the concessions were extremely cheap to produce and we were only making minimum wage to work there. I have absolutely no doubt that those $1 tickets for that Giants game were still quite lucrative at the end of the day, as people were still spending money on many other (overpriced) things.

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**Author:** ![Jaycat.again](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jaycat.again/32/11525_2.png) [@Jaycat.again](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jaycat.again)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-14/1011119/65 "2024-12-09T22:45:21Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Many (oh dear God so many) years ago, I worked for the US Navy Morale Welfare and Recreation (MWR) organization, working at a movie theater on a US Navy base (where customers were all members of the US Navy or Marine Corps and their families). We sold tickets for $2 a film.

Perhaps even more many years ago, I was a member of the Washington Senators “Knothole Club,” in which kids got admission to 10 Senators games for the grand total of $1.

Of course, the seats were way out in the bleachers, and most of the games were against the Kansas City Athletics, who were almost as pitiful as the Senators.

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**Author:** ![Patx2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/73ab20/32.png) [@Patx2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patx2)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-14/1011119/66 "2024-12-09T23:52:51Z")

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They’ve got to stop giving me so much stress 😁, and where’s the passing game? That’s a big concern.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2024, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-14/1011119/67 "2024-12-10T02:05:56Z")

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I really do not know what to say about this weird Simpsons animation thing.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2024, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-14/1011119/68 "2024-12-10T03:23:13Z")

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I tried watching it and ugh.

My ten-year-old daughter loved it though.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2024, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-14/1011119/69 "2024-12-10T03:41:22Z")

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Honestly, if the animation wasn’t somehow oddly painful to watch (something about the color palette and the movement gets to me) I’d say this is the perfect kind of thing for this kind of pointless game.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2024, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-14/1011119/70 "2024-12-10T04:14:24Z")

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Gotta know the rules, Cowboys. C.f. another Cowboy of yesteryear who did something similar, as in Leon Lett…

Since we’ve had a lot of discussion of end-of-game strategy when you have the ball, is a TD with a minute to go and 3 timeouts for the other team better than a field goal, ~45 seconds, and no timeouts?

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2024, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-14/1011119/71 "2024-12-10T04:26:22Z")

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Against Mahomes? Burn the clock

Against Cooper Rush and the Cowboys? Does it even matter?

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**Author:** ![Strenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@Strenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Strenger)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2024, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-14/1011119/72 "2024-12-10T05:37:47Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> Like many such situations, I’m guessing money.
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> If they cut him, that’s a lot of dead cap to absorb.

Don’t know about Cleveland, but the same question about Justin Tucker (Bal’more kicker who has hit a ridiculous slide downward recently) and Tyler Bass of Buffalo, where they’re even training up replacements for at least six weeks. TBass _was_ solid, (well…since the late unpleasantness last season) and Justin Tucker has always been the golden foot boy across the league.

I don’t know if the money follows, necessarily.

It’s an upsetting season for kickers…even regular PAT are dicey for division champs it seems, and solid performing kickers going for three at thirty, forty yards or whatever.

Voodoo?

Some kind of curse.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2024, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-14/1011119/73 "2024-12-10T08:15:20Z")

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It’s been a weird season for kickers. It seemed like everyone was hitting 55-65 yarders early in the season left and right, and then some of the most accurate kickers ever started missing easy stuff.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2024, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-14/1011119/74 "2024-12-10T11:41:27Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> It’s been a weird season for kickers.

To illustrate this point, Ka’imi Fairbairn of the Texans is 13-16 from 50+ yards, but only 6-8 from 20-29 yards.

> [@Strenger](#):
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> Justin Tucker

Going into this season, Tucker was the career leader in field-goal percentage, converting over 90% of his attempts. This season, however, he is 19-27 for 70%.

In another weird kicking stat, the Chiefs won the SNF game on a last-second field goal by Matthew Wright. Wright was the third kicker this season to convert a game-winning FG for KC.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2024, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-14/1011119/75 "2024-12-10T15:09:58Z")

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[Week 15 thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-15/1011444)

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2024, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-14/1011119/76 "2024-12-10T15:25:10Z")

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> [@asterion](#):
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> (something about the color palette and the movement gets to me)

I only watched as much as I could stand, which wasn’t much, but the movement! Whatever algorithm they are using needs some work. The players would do little spins just walking straight. And they’d go right through each other, probably because the Simpsonized players are larger than the real players, but it looked clunky.

But who knew Lisa was such a good running back?

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