# NFL 2024-25: Week 18

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-18/1012397>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** football-nfl\
**Created:** [December 31, 2024, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-18/1012397 "2024-12-31T15:20:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2025, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-18/1012397/121 "2025-01-08T03:23:06Z")

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Announcers suck. It’s “brotherly shove” for us. 😁

And I’m sure Love will be playing fine. He’s not injured, but Hurts may really be seeing double for all I know.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2025, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-18/1012397/122 "2025-01-08T04:47:44Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> Announcers suck. It’s “brotherly shove” for us. 😁

I’d like to come up with another name for it, but I can’t find a good rhyme for “pelvic”.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2025, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-18/1012397/123 "2025-01-08T13:32:09Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> I hope this is a comment made in jest, as both the Bills and Eagles rested multiple starters as well.

Very much - the attempted point was that teams got starters hurt playing them this week, and rest and injury prevention were the actual reason that most folks got a week off.

I believe it’s been two years since the Bengals beat the Chiefs, could be wrong. Burrows is a fine QB, but has missed the playoffs the last two years. Not sure why everyone thinks the Chiefs are scared of them - Buffalo is a much more worthy adversary.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2025, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-18/1012397/124 "2025-01-08T14:02:31Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> I believe it’s been two years since the Bengals beat the Chiefs

Correct.

In the Mahomes-Burrows eras, the teams have met six times. Cincy won the first three: during the 2021 season, the AFC Championship game in 2022, and during the 2022 season on 12/24/2022. KC has won the next three, including the AFC Championship game following the 2022 season, then in both the 2023 and 2024 seasons.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2025, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-18/1012397/125 "2025-01-08T14:50:56Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> Not sure why everyone thinks the Chiefs are scared of them - Buffalo is a much more worthy adversary.

The Bengals won 5 straight to end the season. They weren’t all impressive wins, but they were on a bit of a roll.

The Bills and Ravens are both significantly above the Bengals, but I think the Chiefs would rather face any of the other WC teams instead of the Bengals.

(As you say, this had nothing to do with their decision to rest players.)

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2025, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-18/1012397/126 "2025-01-08T14:59:32Z")

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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> but I think the Chiefs would rather face any of the other WC teams instead of the Bengals.

And you would not be wrong. I’m also guessing that the Bills were rooting for Denver, as Buffalo would be facing the Bengals this week had KC defeated the Broncos.

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**Author:** ![jnglmassiv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f07891/32.png) [@jnglmassiv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jnglmassiv)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2025, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-18/1012397/127 "2025-01-08T20:41:35Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> good rhyme for “pelvic”.

Micha-el Vic?

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2025, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-18/1012397/128 "2025-01-09T00:38:18Z")

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Ooh, I forgot about him. If he were still playing, we could have had the Michael-vic Thrust.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2025, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-18/1012397/129 "2025-01-10T19:02:54Z")

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Peak Browns:

> **[Browns' Watson tears Achilles again, has surgery](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/43359537/sources-browns-qb-deshaun-watson-retears-achilles-rehab)**
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> Cleveland Browns QB Deshaun Watson underwent surgery Thursday after tearing his Achilles for a second time, the team announced, adding that Watson "will likely miss significant time during the 2025 season."

“Watson has two years remaining on the five-year, fully guaranteed $230 million deal he signed before the 2022 season. The Browns owe Watson $46 million in each of the next two seasons and he has cap hits of $72.9 million in 2025 and 2026, currently the second highest in the NFL. Watson has played in just 19 games since the Browns traded three first-round picks for him in March 2022. He posted the lowest Total QBR in the NFL before his season-ending injury.”

19 terrible games, three 1st round picks gone, payroll cap hits of $72,9 million the next two years. All on a massage enthousiast/serial sex assaulter. Forget draft busts like Leaf, Boswell, and Russell - this is all time buffoonery.

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2025, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-18/1012397/130 "2025-01-10T19:20:20Z")

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And every bit of it was self-inflicted.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2025, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-18/1012397/131 "2025-01-10T19:20:31Z")

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Not even really a draft bust.

At least for Houston who got a few pretty good seasons and fantastic trade value out of him.

The Browns, however, will naturally do Browns things.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2025, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-18/1012397/132 "2025-01-10T19:23:34Z")

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The Browns deserve every bit of that. The Browns fans who hailed his arrival do as well. The fans who dumped their season tickets or said they wouldn’t support the team when they acquired him? I definitely have sympathy for them.

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2025, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-18/1012397/133 "2025-01-10T19:28:21Z")

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Deion will never let Shedeur get drafted by the Browns. He’s already invoked “Eli” in regards to the draft. The most Browns thing ever would be to draft him anyways, he sits out all year, then re-enters the draft next season, leaving the Browns with nothing.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2025, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-18/1012397/134 "2025-01-10T20:13:12Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> Not even really a draft bust.

I wasn’t implying he was a draft bust - I just listed a few other bad signings - sorry I wasn’t clear. The NFL could have prevented this by tossing Watson out on personal conduct reasons. Money and what’s in the player union contract might bar that.

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