# NFL 2024-25: Week 2
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-2/1007062
**Category:** The Game Room
**Tags:** football-nfl
**Created:** [September 10, 2024, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-2/1007062 "2024-09-10T15:26:18Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2024, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-2/1007062/1 "2024-09-10T15:26:18Z")
Week 2 starts with a TNF matchup between the Bills and Dolphins, AFC East contenders who struggled to win their home openers. In another divisional matchup, the Rams travel to Arizona, where the NFC West rivals will both try to recover from tough opening-day losses. The Bengals have a rough test in Arrowhead as they try to rebound from their opening-day upset loss to the Patriots. Giants and Commanders square off with both teams looking for their first win. And the Niners didn’t miss a beat without Christian McCaffrey. Also, Mike Greenberg’s prediction of the Jets being a Super-Bowl caliber team looks somewhat dubious after last night.
This week’s games. All spreads taken from DraftKings on Tuesday, September 10.
Thursday:
Bills @ Dolphins (-2)
Sunday early:
Raiders @ Ravens (-9.5)
Saints @ Cowboys (-6.5)
49ers @ Vikings (+6)
Chargers @ Panthers (+6.5)
Colts @ Packers (+3.5)
Seahawks @ Patriots (+3.5)
Browns @ Jaguars (-3)
Bucs @ Lions (-7)
Giants @ Commanders (-2)
Jets @ Titans (+4)
Sunday late:
Rams @ Cardinals (-1.5)
Bengals @ Chiefs (-6)
Steelers @ Broncos (+3)
Sunday night:
Bears @ Texans (-6.5)
Monday night:
Falcons @ Eagles (-6.5)
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### Author:  [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2024, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-2/1007062/2 "2024-09-10T15:38:29Z")
Go Ravens and Vikings!💜
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### Author:  [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2024, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-2/1007062/3 "2024-09-10T19:30:23Z")
Kyle Shanahan, the 49ers head coach, once again shows himself to be a slimeball. Backup RB Jordan Mason told reporters that he was told he would be the starting RB on Friday. That created a problem, because the Niners listed starting RB Christian McCaffrey as " questionable" up until declaring him insctive just before their game on MNF.
And, of course, it is Jordan Mason who gets thrown under the bus for the Niners trying to hide injury information. Poor dude.
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### Author:  [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2024, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-2/1007062/4 "2024-09-10T19:42:21Z")
> [@Hamlet](#):
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> And, of course, it is Jordan Mason who gets thrown under the bus for the Niners trying to hide injury information.
I’m not a fantasy football player, but I do know that McCaffrey is a top pick in most fantasy drafts/leagues. Waiting until two hours before kickoff to make that announcement caused a shitload of fantasy owners to scramble to find another player. Those who picked up Jordan Mason are happy they did so, but the 3rd-year pro only had 83 carries before Monday night.
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### Author:  [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2024, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-2/1007062/5 "2024-09-10T21:35:52Z")
The Packers are preparing for Malik Willis (who only joined the team two weeks ago) to start at QB for Sunday’s home opener against the Colts – however, they have not yet ruled out Jordan Love for this week.
In statements yesterday, coach Matt LaFleur was still a bit cryptic about the extent of Love’s injury (which is said to be some level of sprain or strain of his left MCL), but it sounds like (a) Love isn’t expected to miss an extended period of time, and (b) the Packers don’t appear to be looking at bringing in Ryan Tannehill (which has been rumored for months), or any other veteran.
It will, of course, be interesting to see how the team classifies Love on this week’s injury reports.
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> Without getting into specifics, LaFleur said the Packers got “some relatively good news” on the injury after returning to Green Bay, presumably meaning the knee injury is not season-ending. Somewhat surprisingly, LaFleur didn’t actually rule out the possibility Love could play this week, though he made no suggestion the chances are favorable.
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> “I couldn’t give you a percentage, but if he gets cleared, we’ll give him every opportunity like we always will,” LaFleur said. “I know he’s doing everything in his power. I know he’s spending a lot of time trying to get back as soon as possible. But certainly we’re not going to put him in a position where if he can’t protect himself that he’d go out there.”
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> In Love’s stead, the Packers are going with Willis over second-year pro [Sean Clifford](https://www.packers.com/team/players-roster/sean-clifford/). Willis was acquired in a trade from Tennessee at the end of training camp, with Clifford getting released and brought back to the practice squad.
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> LaFleur clarified that contrary to certain media reports, the Packers did not have any discussions with other available veteran quarterbacks.
[https://www.packers.com/news/packers-preparing-malik-willis-to-start-at-quarterback-for-jordan-love-2024](https://www.packers.com/news/packers-preparing-malik-willis-to-start-at-quarterback-for-jordan-love-2024)
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### Author:  [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2024, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-2/1007062/6 "2024-09-10T21:47:07Z")
Teams only giving the minimum (not even that, really) of injury information on their players?
Quelle surprise. The day must end in a Y
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### Author:  [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2024, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-2/1007062/7 "2024-09-10T21:53:26Z")
> [@Hamlet](#):
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> And, of course, it is Jordan Mason who gets thrown under the bus for the Niners trying to hide injury information. Poor dude.
It may be that he misspoke, I don’t know what the truth is at this point.
> **[Jordan Mason reveals 49ers may have broken NFL rule with Christian McCaffrey...](https://www.foxnews.com/sports/jordan-mason-reveals-49ers-may-have-broken-nfl-rule-christian-mccaffrey-missing-week-1-game)**
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> During an interview after having a career night for the 49ers, running back Jordan Mason may have revealed his team broke an NFL rule regarding Christian McCaffrey being inactive.
I’m a Seattle fan and I’m all about getting on the “Kyle Shanahan is a slimeball” bandwagon (I still remember [Shoegate](https://www.nbcsportsbayarea.com/nfl/49ers-coach-kyle-shanahan-fined-25k-for-shoegate-penalty-vs-seahawks/1248823/)!) but I’d say it’s plausible that Mason was only told that he’d get more playtime on Friday and is just misremembering. It’s easy to make a mistake like that, and get things mixed up in your memories, especially in the midst of hectic preparations for an opening game on primetime national TV. I’m not ready to say that the Niners broke a rule and I don’t see that Mason is getting too much flak for what he said, at least publicly. (Behind closed doors the coaches might be telling him to keep his mouth shut about stuff like that, who knows.)
I will say that Mason was a freaking beast last night and as usual, San Francisco is filthy with talent.
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### Author:  [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2024, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-2/1007062/8 "2024-09-10T21:55:40Z")
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best. Yeah, what a slimeball!
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### Author:  [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2024, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-2/1007062/9 "2024-09-10T22:02:40Z")
That, and this is one of those dirty open secrets that all teams stretch the truth on injury reports. The attitude seems to be that it’s better to beg forgiveness than ask permission.
Except mine, of course. They’re angels and blessed by divine providence.
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### Author:  [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2024, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-2/1007062/10 "2024-09-10T22:09:25Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> Teams only giving the minimum (not even that, really) of injury information on their players?
Every head coach does that, and if they don’t they are stupid. Being cagey about player availability when talking to the media is just smart strategy. I mean, if a reporter asks a head coach how they plan to take on their opponent in the next game, they won’t detail their opening set of plays or explain how they expect to counter their strengths with specific tactics. That’s like playing Poker and then showing everyone how great or terrible your hand is.
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### Author:  [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2024, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-2/1007062/11 "2024-09-10T23:16:59Z")
What are the exact rules for injury reports? How far in advance and how specific do you need to be?
Brian
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### Author:  [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2024, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-2/1007062/12 "2024-09-10T23:26:35Z")
> [@N9IWP](#):
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> What are the exact rules for injury reports? How far in advance and how specific do you need to be?
Here you go. They are supposed to file reports for each day on which the team practices (typically Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday), a “game status” report by 4pm Eastern on the day prior to their week’s game, and in-game reports (on players who get injured during the game).
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> - **The Practice Report** provides clubs and fans with an accurate description of a player’s injury status and how much he participated in practice during the week. If any player has a significant or noteworthy injury, it must be listed on the practice report, even if he fully participates in practice and the team expects that he will play in the team’s next game. This is especially important for key players whose injuries may be covered extensively by the media.
> - **The Game Status Report** provides clubs and fans with an accurate description of a player’s availability for the club’s next game. Teams must notify the league, their opponent, local and national media, and the league’s broadcast partners of the status of their injured players by 4 p.m. ET the day before their next scheduled game.
> - **The In-Game Injury Report** requires club personnel to report in-game injury information factually and accurately as soon as it is available. In-game injury updates must be disseminated to the broadcast partner, the media and the fans in the stadium at the same time. Clubs must post injury updates on the stadium video boards, scoreboards or ribbon boards so fans at NFL games are also informed.
For the practice reports, teams have to list which players have injuries, what the injury is (which seems to just amount to “which part of the body”), and their level of participation in that day’s practice (full, partial, did not practice).
For game status, they have three categories:
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> **Questionable**
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> Players listed as questionable are still uncertain for their team’s next games but often have a legitimate chance of playing.
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> The NFL removed the “probable” designation from the injury report in 2017, meaning a player has to be questionable or best to appear on the report. Some players expected to play still land on the injury report as questionable, and that was believed to be the case for McCaffrey ahead of the 49ers’ game against the Jets before he was abruptly ruled out.
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> **Doubtful**
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> Players listed as doubtful are unlikely to play in their team’s upcoming game, but the designation allows teams to leave the door open with hope for improvement in their condition ahead of kickoff.
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> **Out**
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> A player listed as out will not play in their team’s upcoming game.
> **[NFL injury report rules, explained: How it works, penalties for violations...](https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/nfl-injury-report-rules-penalties-violations-2024/05ab0439361a73dd047fec2f)**
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> NFL teams face strict guidelines for reporting injuries. Here's what you need to know about the injury report rules and how teams are punished for violations.
Here’s a link to the Packers’ injury report page, which shows both the daily practice reports, as well as the game status:
[https://www.packers.com/team/injury-report/](https://www.packers.com/team/injury-report/)
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### Author:  [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)
#### Post date: [September 11, 2024, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-2/1007062/13 "2024-09-11T03:25:56Z")
Nothing triggers a Packers fan like the 49ers.
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### Author:  [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)
#### Post date: [September 11, 2024, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-2/1007062/14 "2024-09-11T12:24:04Z")
We’re certainly not triggered by the Bears anymore.
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### Author:  [@SwissMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SwissMan)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2024, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-2/1007062/15 "2024-09-13T00:19:54Z")
I tuned into Amazon right at the start of the game tonight. Anybody else digging the opening credit sequence, particularly the use of the Rare Earth version of “Get Ready?”
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### Author:  [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2024, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-2/1007062/16 "2024-09-13T01:37:01Z")
Mike McDaniel needs an intervention. Not about his play calling (although the clock management at the end of the half was atrocious), but rather his facial hair. Oof.
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### Author:  [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2024, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-2/1007062/17 "2024-09-13T02:11:57Z")
Tua may need an intervention, too.
Edit: That’s not what I meant. 😨
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### Author:  [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2024, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-2/1007062/18 "2024-09-13T02:31:24Z")
McDaniel always looks like a disgruntled high school student.
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### Author:  [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2024, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-2/1007062/19 "2024-09-13T03:18:04Z")
Tua appears to have suffered another concussion tonight:
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> Late in the third quarter, Tagovailoa scrambled up the middle for a first down and lowered his shoulder to initiate contact with Bills safety [Damar Hamlin](https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/4036060/damar-hamlin). Tagovailoa’s helmet made hard contact with Hamlin’s body, and the quarterback immediately went into a fencing response with his arms in an unnatural position.
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> Dolphins medical trainers attended to him for several minutes as players knelt around him. He was ultimately able to walk off the field under his own power and into the team’s locker room.
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> Tagovailoa was quickly ruled out for the game. It is the third diagnosed concussion of his NFL career.
> **[Dolphins' Tagovailoa ruled out due to concussion](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/41238953/dolphins-tua-tagovailoa-ruled-game-due-concussion)**
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> Dolphins quarterback Tua Tagovailoa suffered a concussion in the third quarter Thursday night against the Bills and was ruled out for the game.
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### Author:  [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2024, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-2/1007062/20 "2024-09-13T04:40:22Z")
Tua still looked punch drunk 15 minutes later walking to the locker room. Dude is completely cooked. It’s criminal malpractice if the Dolphins don’t at least park him on the IR-DTR.
The hit that did it was incredibly mild as well. How is he not wearing a guardian cap? He’s got a couple hundred million reasons to.
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