# NFL 2024-25: Week 3

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-3/1007386>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** football-nfl\
**Created:** [September 17, 2024, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-3/1007386 "2024-09-17T15:24:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-3/1007386/41 "2024-09-22T21:52:13Z")

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For the 2nd week, the Cowboys are getting mauled because of Jerry’s refusal to address the defense’s problems during the offseason and shore them up.

Loooooong season.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-3/1007386/42 "2024-09-22T22:12:59Z")

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> [@John\_DiFool](#):
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> Amazingly, it was NOT called a safety, but an “illegal touching” by the lineman

I was wondering what that ruling was. I didn’t think there was any eligible offensive receiver in the area, which would automatically make it intentional grounding, which is a loss of down and ball placed at the spot of the infraction. (I thought that the ball was over the goal line when Prescott released it, which would not be a safety had it been intentional grounding.)

But why it wasn’t called grounding is beyond me.

ETA: the Ravens are tearing up the Boys right now.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-3/1007386/43 "2024-09-22T22:31:21Z")

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I believe it has to be COMPLETELY over the goal line to not risk the safety.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-3/1007386/44 "2024-09-22T22:41:15Z")

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After benching Bryce Young, Carolina manages to win with Andy Dalton under center, thus demonstrating that with average or slightly above-average QB play, even the Panthers can look like a professional football organization.

ETA: I know it’s still the 4th quarter, but 33-7 is a bit much of a comeback to ask for in Week 3.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-3/1007386/45 "2024-09-22T22:42:26Z")

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> [@John\_DiFool](#):
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> I believe it has to be COMPLETELY over the goal line to not risk the safety

Yeah, I just looked at the replay and the ball was still in the end zone when it left his hand.

This Sports Illustrated [piece](https://www.si.com/nfl/nfl-fans-were-bewildered-after-dak-prescott-avoided-seemingly-obvious-penalty#:~:text=While%20it%20was%20somewhat%20amusing,illegal%20touching%20and%20Dallas%20punted.) has the video replay and a number of comments in which EVERYBODY is wondering why a safety wasn’t called.

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-3/1007386/46 "2024-09-22T22:44:05Z")

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My Ravens finally won!  
On another note, I am worried about Myles Garrett.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-3/1007386/47 "2024-09-22T22:46:04Z")

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> [@SuntanLotion](#):
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> My Ravens finally won!

The game is still in the 3rd quarter. Yes, the Ravens have a 28-6 lead, but it’s not quite over.

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-3/1007386/48 "2024-09-22T22:47:07Z")

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Uh oh. I didn’t notice that. I check scores on my phone.  
Hope I didn’t jinx.

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**Author:** ![Jaycat.again](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jaycat.again/32/11525_2.png) [@Jaycat.again](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jaycat.again)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-3/1007386/49 "2024-09-22T22:54:07Z")

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No worries. The Cowboys suck. In case you didn’t know.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-3/1007386/50 "2024-09-22T22:54:28Z")

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The Dallas kicker Brandon Aubrey did get a 65 yard FG after having a 66 yarder canceled by a delay of game penalty 2 weeks ago.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-3/1007386/51 "2024-09-22T22:58:51Z")

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I gotta admit my jaw hit the floor when I saw Cooks get beat on his own route and pull off that offensive PI to prevent the easy interception. That was the stuff of video highlights.

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**Author:** ![SwissMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@SwissMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SwissMan)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-3/1007386/52 "2024-09-22T23:00:48Z")

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He should’ve let the defensive back intercept it and then immediately tackle him. It would have saved about 20 yards of field position, given that it was a fourth down play.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-3/1007386/53 "2024-09-22T23:02:17Z")

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Yeah, tongue in cheek. The PI was dumb, but I get the impulse.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-3/1007386/54 "2024-09-22T23:04:00Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> After benching Bryce Young, Carolina manages to win with Andy Dalton under center, thus demonstrating that with average or slightly above-average QB play, even the Panthers can look like a professional football organization.

I called it!

> [@The 0-17 NFL season, 2024 edition - Who'll be football's White Sox?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-17-nfl-season-2024-edition-wholl-be-footballs-white-sox/1006828/18):
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> In all honesty, I do think he’s an upgrade. He’s only mediocre at best, but that’s still better than Bryce Young. Statistically speaking, Dalton has much better numbers, even over the last few years.

He surpassed even what I expected, but I insisted that they’d be better. Dalton is **not** a bad QB.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-3/1007386/55 "2024-09-22T23:09:06Z")

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The Packers beat the Titans, behind backup QB Malik Willis playing pretty well (13-19, 202 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT, plus 73 rushing yards), and a strong defense (8 sacks, 2 interceptions 1 forced fumble). Willis had been a member of the Titans until four weeks ago (the Packers traded for him just after roster cut-downs), and is now 2-0 while Jordan Love is rehabbing a sprained knee.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-3/1007386/56 "2024-09-22T23:36:44Z")

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Good day to be a Seahawks fan.

Not only did they cruise to a win over Miami, but the Cardinals lost and somehow the Rams beat the Niners. After the dust is settled, Seattle is on top with an undefeated 3-0 record, while the rest of the division is now tied at 1-2.

Not bad when I saw projections that Seattle was going to be awful this year.

> **[NFL expert says Seattle Seahawks can forget about playoffs in 2024](https://12thmanrising.com/posts/nfl-expert-says-seattle-seahawks-forget-playoffs-2024-01j2pc4p8gr0)**
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> The Seattle Seahawks could be even better with a new head coach in 2024 but one NFL expert says to forget about that possibility.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-3/1007386/57 "2024-09-22T23:56:02Z")

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> [@Jaycat.again](#):
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> The Cowboys suck. In case you didn’t know.

> [@SwissMan](#):
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> He should’ve let the defensive back intercept it and then immediately tackle him. It would have saved about 20 yards of field position, given that it was a fourth down play

After the failure on the aforementioned fourth down by the Cowboys, the Ravens took over with 14:47 to play, leading 28-6. Baltimore kept the ball for four minutes before all-world Justin Tucker missed a FG. Dallas subsequently scored in 1:48, then recovered an onside kick and scored again in 1:46. Two-point conversions failed after both TDs, then the Ravens went 3-and-out and Dallas scored again to pull within 28-25 with 2:44 to play and had all 3 of their timeouts. Ravens managed to gain two first downs and were able to run out the clock.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2024, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-3/1007386/58 "2024-09-23T00:10:48Z")

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The usual Cowboys way to lose a game; either getting to a big lead and blowing it, or falling behind big and then nearly coming back to win but not.

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2024, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-3/1007386/59 "2024-09-23T03:03:42Z")

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Wow (?) Blatant pass interference by Kansas City ignored. Huge surprise.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2024, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2024-25-week-3/1007386/60 "2024-09-23T06:30:14Z")

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> [@garygnu](#):
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> Blatant pass interference by Kansas City ignored.

And it pretty much stole the game. If they gave them a fresh set of downs on the 1, then the Falcons would almost surely have scored and that late in the game it would have been really, really hard to come back from it. Just an awful missed penalty and it’s exactly the kind of thing the NFL tries to avoid and yet can’t.

Statistically speaking, it’s good that the Chiefs won because as a fan of an NFC team, every loss of another NFC team to the AFC makes a postseason berth easier for the team I root for. But as a fan of the sport it was embarrassing.

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