# NFL 2026-2027: Week 4 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** football-nfl\ **Created:** [September 29, 2026, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2026-2027-week-4/1033464 "2026-09-29T14:44:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2026, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2026-2027-week-4/1033464/61 "2026-10-02T18:22:44Z")
> [@zimaane](#): > > I agree that they are nice, but best Browns uniform is like best restaurant in England… The best restaurants in England are Indian. That’s a different sport (and changed their name). ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2026, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2026-2027-week-4/1033464/62 "2026-10-02T18:23:04Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > Squib kicks aren’t a thing with the new kickoff rules. If the ball lands before the 20 yard line, it’s a penalty and the ball is placed at the 40. I forgot about that. That’s right; if it doesn’t go into the “landing zone” that’s a penalty and gives the Steelers a massive advantage. Squib kicks, to the extent anyone does them, are only legal on punts. (Well, onside kicks are still available which is sort of like a squib kick, but see my previous statement about those.) ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2026, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2026-2027-week-4/1033464/63 "2026-10-02T20:27:59Z")
> **[49ers owner Jed York suspended six games, fined $500K for violating NFL's...](https://www.nbcsportsbayarea.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/jed-york-suspension-fine-arrest/1968226/)** > > San Francisco 49ers principal owner Jed York is eligible to return to team activities on Tuesday, Oct. 20. 49ers owner Jed York suspended six games and fined $500,000 for his Ohio trailer park tryst. This might not be the end of the fallout. He’s going through a divorce, which could get messy and might (_might_) result in selling the team. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2026, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2026-2027-week-4/1033464/64 "2026-10-02T20:29:28Z")
I’ve heard a lot of complaints about York, but then again the 49ers have been a really good team for the last handful of years. Not sure how much of that is due to York. So, I don’t know if him selling the team is a good or bad thing for the franchise. ---
**Author:** ![fedman1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e495f1/32.png) [@fedman1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fedman1)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2026, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2026-2027-week-4/1033464/65 "2026-10-02T21:37:13Z")
I mean, what difference does it make when the owner is suspended from games (unless it’s Jerry Jones, of course)? ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2026, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2026-2027-week-4/1033464/66 "2026-10-02T23:26:10Z")
This seems as good a place as any to mention this. Mike Tomlin, former Steelers coach, got into the game Minecraft through his kids. For those not familiar, the game allows you to build things. Tomlin built a city. He’s been at it for like a dozen years. It is incredibly intricate and detailed (inside buildings he crafted things like fish tanks, and designed open floor plans). The city even has a stadium. Very bad ass! > **[From Super Bowl champ to master architect: Mike Tomlin’s sprawling Minecraft...](https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2026/oct/01/mike-tomlin-minecraft-city)** > > The former Pittsburgh Steelers head coach took 12 years to build a city filled with stadiums, skyscrapers and bespoke homes. It is a marvel He apparently gave a 20 minute tour on YouTube. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/_h_pQ1-5iQg/maxresdefault.jpg "EP 1: ROOFTOPS, PENTHOUSES, AND URBAN LIVING") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_h_pQ1-5iQg) ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2026, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2026-2027-week-4/1033464/67 "2026-10-02T23:31:27Z")
Jed caught some flack in the Harbaugh years for wanting to be more directly involved in football decisions. (Front office stuff, not on-field.) The big thing was him firing Harbaugh and keeping Trent Baalke. I was fine with getting rid of Jim, he had worn out his welcome like he does everywhere, but keeping Baalke was disastrous. > [@fedman1](#): > > I mean, what difference does it make when the owner is suspended from games (unless it’s Jerry Jones, of course)? Hell if I know. He can’t attend the games. Big whoop. The only question I have is is he allowed to be involved in decisions like trading for a high contract player. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2026, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2026-2027-week-4/1033464/68 "2026-10-02T23:35:44Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > Mike Tomlin, former Steelers coach, got into the game Minecraft through his kids. My wife thinks it is cool and was showing our daughter who is into Minecraft. (Well, I am too though I haven’t played much in years.) It’s pretty impressive what he has built. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2026, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2026-2027-week-4/1033464/69 "2026-10-02T23:45:59Z")
> [@garygnu](#): > > Hell if I know. He can’t attend the games. Big whoop. It’s intended to be a punishment for him, not for the team. He presumably likes football and the team he owns, so not being able to attend 1/3 of their season is significant. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2026, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2026-2027-week-4/1033464/70 "2026-10-03T00:12:11Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > He kicks it as his own 8 yard line, it hits almost dead on at the 10 yard line, I’d call it 82 air yards Here’s a wild idea that likely exists in some alternate universe: allow “punt” FG’s, where unlike dropkicks they don’t need to hit the ground first. Based on long punts like the above they could conceivably be made from 80+ yards. The tradeoff is that they will be much less accurate than a placekick, so only truly attempted in desperate situations with a LONG way to go. But it would be wild to have a game-winning punt made from a team’s own 30 yard line… ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2026, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2026-2027-week-4/1033464/71 "2026-10-03T00:17:42Z")
Well the punishment is fitting because that’s what Patriot owner Robert Kraft got for the same “transaction”. NOT! Kraft got nothing, you know, except the “pleasurable release”. York didn’t even get that. ---
**Author:** ![fedman1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e495f1/32.png) [@fedman1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fedman1)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2026, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2026-2027-week-4/1033464/72 "2026-10-03T02:03:58Z")
and then after Baalke ruined Niners, he certainly didn’t help the Jags, and now “consulting” with **rowns** ---
**Author:** ![fedman1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e495f1/32.png) [@fedman1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fedman1)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2026, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2026-2027-week-4/1033464/73 "2026-10-03T02:11:47Z")
well, since Bojorquez just punted 71 air-yards, could be makeable ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2026, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2026-2027-week-4/1033464/74 "2026-10-03T22:18:36Z")
I’m more curious about the charges related to criminal tools. Soliciting prostitution is ordinary. Tacking on criminal tools charges for a guy with soft hands and fancy cars seems odd. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2026, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2026-2027-week-4/1033464/75 "2026-10-03T23:02:34Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > criminal tools That’s just the cell phone. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2026, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2026-2027-week-4/1033464/76 "2026-10-03T23:49:02Z")
Assuming you’re serious, American jurisprudence has totally taken leave of its senses. “Criminal tools” has always been a slippery slope. Every tool is dual purpose; it’s the operator that makes it criminal or not. But historically you usually had to have a collection, and it /they had to be really inappropriate to any reasonable use in the circumstances you were found in. A mobile phone doesn’t ever fit that pattern. If the new meaning is “could be used to commit a crime”, my pants qualify as criminal tools. Yours too. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2026, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2026-2027-week-4/1033464/77 "2026-10-04T00:06:02Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Assuming you’re serious, American jurisprudence has totally taken leave of its senses. He’s serious, and agreed, it’s ridiculous. > In Ohio, almost any object can count as a criminal tool if someone intends to use it for a crime. That includes cash meant to buy drugs, a flashlight meant for a burglary, or a screwdriver if the person has threatened by text to stab someone with it. > **[What is ‘possession of criminal tools’? Understanding 49ers owner Jed York’s...](https://sfstandard.com/2026/08/24/jed-york-criminal-tools-charge-explained/)** > > York was arrested Sunday near an Ohio trailer park as part of a prostitution sting. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2026, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2026-2027-week-4/1033464/78 "2026-10-04T00:12:43Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > “Criminal tools” has always been a slippery slope. Every tool is dual purpose; it’s the operator that makes it criminal or not. But historically you usually had to have a collection, and it /they had to be really inappropriate to any reasonable use in the circumstances you were found in. A mobile phone doesn’t ever fit that pattern. Agreed. It’s meaningless. This is like charging someone with possession of a deadly weapon because it’s possible to beat someone to death by stomping with your feet, or strangling with your hands. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2026, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2026-2027-week-4/1033464/79 "2026-10-04T17:48:52Z")
Is the Bears/Jets game on Fox nationwide? Why am I (in Chicago-ish) seeing campaign ads for Ken Paxton? ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2026, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2026-2027-week-4/1033464/80 "2026-10-04T17:52:17Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Is the Bears/Jets game on Fox nationwide? I’m seeing Texans/Cowboys here in Kansas on Fox. I’m also seeing ads for Paxton, which makes some sense, as it’s two Texas teams playing. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2026-2027-week-4/1033464.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-2026-2027-week-4/1033464.md?page=5)