# NFL Black Monday 2024 thread
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-black-monday-2024-thread/995750
**Category:** The Game Room
**Tags:** football-nfl
**Created:** [January 7, 2024, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-black-monday-2024-thread/995750 "2024-01-07T22:25:17Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 5
### Author:  [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)
#### Post date: [January 19, 2024, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-black-monday-2024-thread/995750/81 "2024-01-19T06:15:28Z")
I think with NIL and the transfer portal, being a college coach is shaping up to be an utterly miserable experience. While NFL HCs have plenty to do on the offseason, the GM is the leader of the personnel department. And while scouting the top 250 college prospects and the rest of the NFL for free agents and trades is a tall order, I think it pales in comparison to scouting every high school and NCAA program for recruits. The P5 college program HC is the CEO, GM and Head Coach. That’s a ton of unchecked power, but it’s a pretty brutal job, and while answering to a billionaire owner probably sucks, answering to 500 multi-millionaire boosters sounds way worse.
If Harbaugh leaves, I’m betting it’s primarily because he sees the writing on the wall with NIL and the transfer portal and doesn’t like what he sees. I also think this had a lot to do with Saban walking away.
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### Author:  [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)
#### Post date: [January 19, 2024, 8:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-black-monday-2024-thread/995750/82 "2024-01-19T08:20:47Z")
> [@Superdude](#):
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> He was gasping for breath, and Narcan was administered (Narcan is a drug given to opioid overdoses in an attempt to bring them around).
He has struggled with drug addiction for a long time and is open about it.
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### Author:  [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)
#### Post date: [January 19, 2024, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-black-monday-2024-thread/995750/83 "2024-01-19T13:04:36Z")
A drug addict with his resources, at his age, he will never, ever get clean.
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### Author:  [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)
#### Post date: [January 19, 2024, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-black-monday-2024-thread/995750/84 "2024-01-19T15:53:57Z")
> [@Omniscient](#):
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> If Harbaugh leaves, I’m betting it’s primarily because he sees the writing on the wall with NIL and the transfer portal and doesn’t like what he sees.
His stay/go decision is going to be based on the misconduct investigations. The latest reported sticking point in his negotiations with UM is a clause stating he can’t be terminated as a result of the investigations. If he gets that, he’ll stay. If not, he’s gone.
He’s already been dealing with NIL and transfers, and UM is the type of school that benefits from those. He’s not going to leave because of that.
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### Author:  [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)
#### Post date: [January 19, 2024, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-black-monday-2024-thread/995750/85 "2024-01-19T15:59:30Z")
Harbaugh has also shown as long as he’s paid decently, he’s willing to leave money on the table if he likes the job situation. Not that money isn’t important, but he’s not the type to be driven by getting a few bucks more.
If UM shows through its actions it is committed to him, he stays. Otherwise, he leaves.
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### Author:  [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)
#### Post date: [January 19, 2024, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-black-monday-2024-thread/995750/86 "2024-01-19T20:50:50Z")
> [@TroutMan](#):
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> He’s already been dealing with NIL and transfers, and UM is the type of school that benefits from those. He’s not going to leave because of that.
Everyone wins and everyone loses. The big blue-chip programs used to be able to build depth by recruiting and redshirting 5-star players. They’d get them into the program and have them available for depth and injury. Then as kids left for the pros people moved up. Now, even the best programs, can’t keep kids on the bench. They’ll go elsewhere so they can play right away. They may transfer to a top tier program later but even the best programs need to have a plan to backfill every year. In the past they already had their future stars in the locker room and weight room, that’s changed. The flow in the transfer portal isn’t one-way into the blue-chips. And NIL is difficult. Even if these programs were paying players under the table before, they usually only had to do so during the initial recruiting cycle. Now the players can constantly renegotiate and be poached.
While the two headed monster of NIL and transfer portal aren’t new this year, the kids and teams (and probably agents) are really starting to use them now. They’ve learned the ins and outs and are now following examples of how to optimize and how to be cutthroat. Every year it will get tougher and more expensive. Harbaugh (and others) have had a few years to watch it play out, at first I’m sure they figured it was win-win for them, but now I think they are learning that they have a lot more shit to deal with and it’ll get worse.
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### Author:  [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)
#### Post date: [January 19, 2024, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-black-monday-2024-thread/995750/87 "2024-01-19T20:58:33Z")
> **[Raiders working on deal to hire Antonio Pierce as full-time head coach](https://www.nfl.com/news/raiders-working-on-deal-to-hire-antonio-pierce-as-full-time-head-coach)**
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> This time around, the interim coach is sticking with the Silver and Black. The Las Vegas Raiders are working on a deal to hire Antonio Pierce as their next head coach, NFL Network Insiders Mike Garafolo and Ian Rapoport reported Friday.
Looks like one of the open positions is closed.
> Davis has made Pierce just the third interim head coach in the past 10 seasons to become that team’s full-time coach the following year (Mike Mularkey, Tennessee Titans; Doug Marrone, Jacksonville Jaguars).
Pretty rare that an interim coach gets retained, even when they do well, they are usually gone. It’ll be interesting to see what the comp numbers look like. In the world of NFL owners, Davis has perhaps the least resources and he’s already paying 3 head coaches. Him laying out for a big name like Harbaugh was always probably a long shot. Pierce will almost certainly be one of the lowest paid coaches which probably helped his case as much or more than the support in the locker room.
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### Author:  [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)
#### Post date: [January 24, 2024, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-black-monday-2024-thread/995750/88 "2024-01-24T17:34:15Z")
As mentioned elsewhere, Packers fire Defensive Coordinator Joe Barry:
> **[Packers fire DC Joe Barry, LaFleur says](https://www.wxow.com/news/top-stories/reports-packers-fire-dc-joe-barry/article_4fbb5a88-fe88-5f9f-bb94-4f361c448965.html)**
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> The Packers are moving on from defensive coordinator Joe Barry, first reported by NFL Network's Tom Pellissero.
Brian
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### Author:  [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)
#### Post date: [January 24, 2024, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-black-monday-2024-thread/995750/89 "2024-01-24T20:28:05Z")
Dolphins and Vic Fangio ‘parting ways’
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### Author:  [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)
#### Post date: [January 25, 2024, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-black-monday-2024-thread/995750/90 "2024-01-25T00:05:54Z")
And Harbaugh to the Chargers
> **[Sources: Chargers hiring Jim Harbaugh as coach](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39380148/sources-jim-harbaugh-accepts-head-coaching-job-chargers)**
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> Jim Harbaugh is leaving the Michigan Wolverines to accept the head coaching job with the Los Angeles Chargers, sources told ESPN's Adam Schefter.
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### Author:  [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)
#### Post date: [January 25, 2024, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-black-monday-2024-thread/995750/91 "2024-01-25T02:15:25Z")
Aw man…
Anyways, Harbaugh ditching the sanctions at Michigan to jump back to the NFL? Does he know that’s Pete Carroll’s schtick?
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### Author:  [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)
#### Post date: [January 25, 2024, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-black-monday-2024-thread/995750/92 "2024-01-25T02:16:36Z")
> [@dalej42](#):
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> And Harbaugh to the Chargers
There was a lot of speculation that he and Herbert would be a good match so this makes sense.
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### Author:  [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)
#### Post date: [January 25, 2024, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-black-monday-2024-thread/995750/93 "2024-01-25T16:07:24Z")
> [@dalej42](#):
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> And Harbaugh to the Chargers
I just noticed that the Chargers host the Ravens next season.
I’m guessing that will be a prime-time night game, Thursday, Sunday, or Monday.
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### Author:  [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)
#### Post date: [January 25, 2024, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-black-monday-2024-thread/995750/94 "2024-01-25T16:12:43Z")
Yeah, in the in-conference divisional rotation, the AFC North and West are paired next season.
If the “Harbaugh Bowl” is not scheduled that way from the beginning, it’s almost sure to get flexed into a preferred slot, short of a Game 1 Justin Herbert season ending injury.
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### Author:  [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)
#### Post date: [January 25, 2024, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-black-monday-2024-thread/995750/95 "2024-01-25T16:25:07Z")
If it’s a Chargers home game then I guess it can’t be the first game of the season if the Ravens win the Super Bowl.
If the Ravens don’t win the Super Bowl, I do see his as the first Sunday night game of the season.
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### Author:  [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)
#### Post date: [January 25, 2024, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-black-monday-2024-thread/995750/96 "2024-01-25T16:28:42Z")
It’s a Chargers home game
> **[List of Chargers Finalized 2024 Opponents](https://www.chargers.com/news/chargers-2024-opponents-chiefs-broncos-raiders)**
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> Here is who the Bolts are scheduled to play in 2024
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### Author:  [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)
#### Post date: [January 25, 2024, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-black-monday-2024-thread/995750/97 "2024-01-25T16:39:54Z")
It’s certainly possible.
They tend to put more division matchups early and late in the season so I would think sometime mid-season would be better ratings-wise. There’s already going to be a lot of the typical early season excitement, and it would be the kind of game they’d want to prop up an otherwise lackluster week
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### Author:  [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)
#### Post date: [January 25, 2024, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-black-monday-2024-thread/995750/98 "2024-01-25T17:49:12Z")
Panthers set to hire Dave Canales, Bucs OC for their new HC. Seems to have done something to revive Baker Mayfield’s game. It’s as good as they’re going to get I suppose.
> **[Panthers plan to hire Dave Canales as new head coach: Buccaneers offensive...](https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/panthers-plan-to-hire-dave-canales-as-new-head-coach-buccaneers-offensive-coordinator-joining-nfc-south-rival/)**
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> The 42-year-old helped guide Tampa Bay to the playoffs
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### Author:  [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)
#### Post date: [January 25, 2024, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-black-monday-2024-thread/995750/99 "2024-01-25T17:55:58Z")
It’s kinda weird that no one really wants Belichick. Only one tied to him right now are the Falcons and it seems like things are slowing down on that front.
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### Author:  [@peccavi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peccavi)
#### Post date: [January 25, 2024, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-black-monday-2024-thread/995750/100 "2024-01-25T18:06:13Z")
I’ve sort of lost lock on the open head coaching jobs. Is the list below correct (All the 2024 openings and which ones are filled)?
Raiders - Pierce
Chargers – Harbaugh
Panthers - Canales
Patriots - Mayo
Commodores – Unfilled
Falcons – Unfilled
Seahawks – Unfilled
Titans – Unfilled
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