# NFL coaching carousel 2018 season edition

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2018-season-edition/826949>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [December 30, 2018, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2018-season-edition/826949 "2018-12-30T23:49:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2018, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2018-season-edition/826949/1 "2018-12-30T23:49:38Z")

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It’s almost Black Monday so a bunch of coaches will be getting fired tomorrow or early next week.

Who stays and who goes?

I’m sure Dirk Koetter at Tampa Bay is done.  
Marvin Lewis’ time is up in Cincy.  
Steve Wilks is one and done in Arizona.

Jay Gruden should be done in Washington but somehow I think he’s getting another year. He can’t be blamed for losing two QBs to injury and the Redskins looked good the first part of the season, but the final results still show yet another mediocre Redskins team.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2018-season-edition/826949/2 "2018-12-31T00:17:40Z")

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Somebody is going to be gone in Carolina but my gut says not Rivera.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2018-season-edition/826949/3 "2018-12-31T00:28:59Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Somebody is going to be gone in Carolina but my gut says not Rivera.

It should be Cam Newton.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2018-season-edition/826949/4 "2018-12-31T00:35:13Z")

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NBC sports is reporting that Dirk Koetter has already been fired by Tampa Bay.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2018-season-edition/826949/5 "2018-12-31T00:49:20Z")

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Todd Bowles must already have his desk cleaned out.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2018-season-edition/826949/6 "2018-12-31T00:58:42Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> It should be Cam Newton.

I’ve been predicting a short career for him for years now. The way he plays, he doesn’t protect himself at all. In fact, he plays more like a RB than a QB so he’ll probably hit a wall at 30 like most other RBs.

He turns 30 in May, just FYI.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2018-season-edition/826949/7 "2018-12-31T01:48:46Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Todd Bowles must already have his desk cleaned out.

ESPN just reported that Bowles is fired.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2018-season-edition/826949/8 "2018-12-31T12:59:47Z")

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The Jaguars are keeping Marrone and the full front office staff, apparently blaming their season on injuries.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2018-season-edition/826949/9 "2018-12-31T14:14:00Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> The Jaguars are keeping Marrone and the full front office staff, apparently blaming their season on injuries.

As long as they totally move on from Bortles.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2018-season-edition/826949/10 "2018-12-31T14:41:20Z")

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Steve Wilks out in Arizona. Vance Joseph out in Denver.

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**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2018-season-edition/826949/11 "2018-12-31T14:53:57Z")

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Patricia. Lions can’t really suffer another season with him. Stafford is gone also.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2018-season-edition/826949/12 "2018-12-31T15:02:54Z")

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Adam Gase also out in Miami, looks like the carousel is going to be a fun one this year.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2018-season-edition/826949/13 "2018-12-31T15:25:07Z")

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> [@MadTheSwine](#):
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> Patricia. Lions can’t really suffer another season with him. Stafford is gone also.

I’m rarely in favor of a 1-and-done ouster, but Patricia should be gone. There was enough controversy in his background to shit-can him before the season even started. Now that he’s yet another Bill Belichick coaching tree flame-out, this is an opportunity for the Lions to go out and get a real coach who can command the respect of not only the team but the franchise and community.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2018-season-edition/826949/14 "2018-12-31T15:26:04Z")

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Marvin Lewis is finally out in Cinci.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2018-season-edition/826949/15 "2018-12-31T15:27:19Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> Steve Wilks out in Arizona. Vance Joseph out in Denver.

The Broncs have shown flashes of brilliance under Joseph, only to turn into smelly flatulence the next week. He had to know he was skating on razor thin ice.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2018-season-edition/826949/16 "2018-12-31T15:32:32Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> Marvin Lewis is finally out in Cinci.

\<sigh\>

I think Lewis is, in a lot of ways, a good coach. I know that Lewis can’t take all the credit for Cincinnati’s talent acquisition, but I think in this day and age, coaches - especially those who remain with a franchise as long as Lewis did - are at least somewhat involved in that process. I think Lewis hired a reasonably good staff around him. Maybe not spectacular in terms of play-calling but they developed talent and they developed systems that worked to players strengths.

The big knock against Lewis is the same that you could say of Andy Reid. They’re both consistent coaches. They will get their teams ready to play, and occasionally, they will win a big game during the regular season. But they just can’t seem to make the kinds of in-game adjustments needed to win the most important games that are played in January. I also think that he sometimes had too long a leash with some of his players (i.e. Burfect and others). Still, Lewis is a respectable coach and a respectable man. It’s sad to see him go down like this. I do think he will get a coordinator job relatively quickly, and he should. He’s fundamentally a good coach and leader. He just isn’t elite when it comes to managing the entire team.

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2018-season-edition/826949/17 "2018-12-31T15:47:52Z")

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Marvin Lewis isn’t going to be out of work long. _The man unfucked the Bengals_, who at the time were _very much_ “the Bungles.” If I were in the market for a HC, I’d have Marvin Lewis on the phone _immediately_.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2018-season-edition/826949/18 "2018-12-31T15:58:13Z")

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> [@DCnDC](#):
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> Marvin Lewis isn’t going to be out of work long. _The man unfucked the Bengals_, who at the time were _very much_ “the Bungles.” If I were in the market for a HC, I’d have Marvin Lewis on the phone _immediately_.

A lot of teams are clearly in the market, expect to see Lewis in this thread again as he gets a new job offer. Maybe some place like Tampa? (Or the Browns, how ironic would that be, especially if the Bengals promote Jackson to HC…)

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2018-season-edition/826949/19 "2018-12-31T16:25:26Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> A lot of teams are clearly in the market, expect to see Lewis in this thread again as he gets a new job offer. Maybe some place like Tampa? (Or the Browns, how ironic would that be, especially if the Bengals promote Jackson to HC…)

Lewis would be a perfect fit for the Browns if they’re serious about moving up in the [NFL arrest rankings](http://nflarrest.com). Cincinnati has had trouble winning playoff games, but they’ve consistently been at or near the top in bad behavior (#3 in arrests in recent years, compared to the Browns at #7).

Cleveland suffered a major blow in this regard when they traded Josh Gordon, but having Antonio Callaway, acquiring Lewis’ services (and maybe landing Burfict in a new deal?) they could be champions very soon. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2018-season-edition/826949/20 "2018-12-31T16:32:35Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Lewis would be a perfect fit for the Browns if they’re serious about moving up in the [NFL arrest rankings](http://nflarrest.com). Cincinnati has had trouble winning playoff games, but they’ve consistently been at or near the top in bad behavior (#3 in arrests in recent years, compared to the Browns at #7).
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> Cleveland suffered a major blow in this regard when they traded Josh Gordon, but having Antonio Callaway, acquiring Lewis’ services (and maybe landing Burfict in a new deal?) they could be champions very soon. 🙂

You’ve given me an idea for a new variety of fantasy football. You draft at the beginning of the year and get points each week for arrests, fines, and suspensions.

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