# NFL coaching carousel 2018 season edition **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [December 30, 2018, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2018-season-edition/826949 "2018-12-30T23:49:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2018-season-edition/826949/21 "2018-12-31T19:06:17Z")
Dan Quinn stays, but Atlanta just fired their DC, OC, and ST Coach. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2018-season-edition/826949/22 "2018-12-31T20:06:51Z")
Marvin Lewis has officially endorsed Hue Jackson as his replacement. Man that would be amazing. So much dong hanging. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2018-season-edition/826949/23 "2018-12-31T20:08:16Z")
Jay Gruden is giving a press conference now, so I guess he’s safe. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2018-season-edition/826949/24 "2018-12-31T22:40:08Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > ESPN just reported that Bowles is fired. ESPN also reporting that the Jets are asking permission to talk to Chiefs offensive coordinator Eric Bieniemy. If the Chiefs allow Bieniemy to take another job, they need to stipulate that their defensive coordinator (Bob Sutton) goes with him in a package deal. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2019, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2018-season-edition/826949/25 "2019-01-01T13:57:22Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Marvin Lewis has officially endorsed Hue Jackson as his replacement. As if a failed and fired coach’s opinion carries any weight? AIUI, after this round of firings there are today zero black head coaches in the NFL. Not a good look; the Rooney Rule is going to get a workout. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2019, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2018-season-edition/826949/26 "2019-01-01T14:42:32Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > As if a failed and fired coach’s opinion carries any weight? > > AIUI, after this round of firings there are today zero black head coaches in the NFL. Not a good look; the Rooney Rule is going to get a workout. Mike Tomlin might be surprised to hear that. I know I am. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2019, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2018-season-edition/826949/27 "2019-01-01T14:51:52Z")
Oh, right. He’s already overstayed his welcome too, though. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2019, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2018-season-edition/826949/28 "2019-01-01T15:04:25Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Oh, right. He’s already overstayed his welcome too, though. No he hasn’t. OK, so even if we go with the assertion he can’t beat New England, nobody else can, either. He’s been the head coach for 11 years and to date, through one major and one minor rebuild, has not yet had a losing season. Think that’s easy? Name the coaches with more than ten years’ tenure who can say that. Not even your boy Belechick can say that. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2019, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2018-season-edition/826949/29 "2019-01-01T15:19:13Z")
It has more to do with his team’s constant indiscipline, both on and off the field (wouldn’t Antonio Brown and Leveon Bell have made a difference yesterday?), leading to their failure to execute when it matters most. Tomlin’s teams are chronic underachievers, and at some point you have to wonder if that needs to be fixed. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2019, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2018-season-edition/826949/30 "2019-01-01T16:10:24Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > As if a failed and fired coach’s opinion carries any weight? > > AIUI, after this round of firings there are today zero black head coaches in the NFL. Not a good look; the Rooney Rule is going to get a workout. Mike Tomlin is still the coach of the Steelers. There was a stupid parody account on Twitter suggesting he should be fired. The Antonio Brown situation doesn’t look good, but I highly doubt it Tomlin is going to be fired over it. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2019, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2018-season-edition/826949/31 "2019-01-01T16:58:32Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > You’ve given me an idea for a new variety of fantasy football. You draft at the beginning of the year and get points each week for arrests, fines, and suspensions. Is defense still a monolithic block, or is Burfict the far and away 1st pick by himself? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2019, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2018-season-edition/826949/32 "2019-01-01T17:35:00Z")
> [@Chisquirrel](#): > > Is defense still a monolithic block, or is Burfict the far and away 1st pick by himself? Burfict would be like the Todd Gurley of that league. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2019, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2018-season-edition/826949/33 "2019-01-01T21:35:59Z")
Burfict has never been arrested. He does his dirty shit ON the field (when he isn’t suspended). Due to concussions, he’s probably done. The Bengals should move on from him at any rate. He’s just a guy out there now, completely ineffective. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2019, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2018-season-edition/826949/34 "2019-01-01T22:10:55Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > I highly doubt it Tomlin is going to be fired over it. No, he won’t, but that’s because of the value the Rooneys put on loyalty and stability in the org chart. The Brown situation is far from the only reason Tomlin \*should \*be fired, though; it’s just the latest example of a problem he won’t fix or even address. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2018-season-edition/826949/35 "2019-01-02T03:29:41Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > Burfict has never been arrested. He does his dirty shit ON the field (when he isn’t suspended). > > Due to concussions, he’s probably done. The Bengals should move on from him at any rate. He’s just a guy out there now, completely ineffective. He’s pretty close to leading the league in suspensions and fines, though. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2018-season-edition/826949/36 "2019-01-02T04:19:41Z")
I don’t think Vance Joseph was really the problem in Denver. I think it’s more that Elway is a bad GM. I also hate how things like the coaching carousel bring out terrible think pieces. The WaPo had one about how the firings so far show that the NFL has a race problem. The whole thing reminds me of people who don’t care about football and couldn’t tell you the difference between a 3-4 and a 4-3 defense having strong opinions on Kapernick. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2018-season-edition/826949/37 "2019-01-02T13:33:42Z")
But the NFL does have a race problem in the coaching ranks. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2018-season-edition/826949/38 "2019-01-02T14:21:28Z")
> [@garygnu](#): > > But the NFL does have a race problem in the coaching ranks. Does it really? Or does it seem to have one _ **now** _, since all but one of the African American coaches have been fired? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2018-season-edition/826949/39 "2019-01-02T14:24:30Z")
Something like 60 percent of the players are black. The coaching ranks are about as far from that as they have ever been, now almost as low as the front-office ranks. The Rooney Rule was created for a reason, and that reason definitely still exists. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2018-season-edition/826949/40 "2019-01-02T14:38:37Z")
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