# NFL Coaching Carousel: 2022-2023 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** football-nfl\ **Created:** [December 26, 2022, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2022-2023/977134 "2022-12-26T19:21:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2022-2023/977134/81 "2023-01-19T23:42:34Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > **Commanders** > I haven’t heard a lot of noise about him being on the hot seat but he really should be. They can’t seem to figure out the QB situation, which isn’t totally on the coach, but it’s been a mess. Him not knowing the playoff situation is a pretty glaring deriliction of duty too. Washington just feels like a place in need of change but for now, seems like it won’t be at HC. Nothing will happen with Rivera until the ownership is settled, but the moment it is, he’s likely gone. No way he lasts past the next season unless they have some remarkable turnaround. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2022-2023/977134/82 "2023-01-19T23:45:04Z")
I understand the concept, but this seems to carry an assumption that an ownership change is imminent. I don’t think that’s the case. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2022-2023/977134/83 "2023-01-19T23:55:31Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > McVay still seems like he’s sticking around. It would have been weird to have him quit after one bad season, but this roster isn’t great and they gave away a lot of draft capital over the years. He also is apparently burned out. I don’t consider this a surprise, personally. Yes, they were pretty bad this year, but he turned around a garbage dump of a team into a solid one, it went to two separate Super Bowls and won one of them. They are the current champions, at least for another few weeks. I was expecting him to stick around at least another year to try to right the ship. > [@Omniscient](#): > > I haven’t seen anything official yet, but all signals are that he’s going to retool his staff which means he’s planning to be back. The team officially announced that he will be back, nearly a week ago. That wasn’t a rumor, it was a team announcement. > **[McVay staying with Rams after mulling future](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35440229/sean-mcvay-tells-rams-staying-coach-sources-say)** > > Sean McVay has told the Rams that he will remain the head coach in Los Angeles. And there are more than signals about retooling, he has fired a number of coaches already. [https://www.si.com/nfl/rams/news/sean-mcvay-los-angeles-rams-fire-multiple-assistant-coaches](https://www.si.com/nfl/rams/news/sean-mcvay-los-angeles-rams-fire-multiple-assistant-coaches) The OC is already gone, though he left for another job, he wasn’t officially fired. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2022-2023/977134/84 "2023-01-20T00:14:51Z")
Ah, thanks. Must have missed those headlines. Yeah, calling it a surprise wasn’t really accurate…but I’d already created the section heading before I decided to throw them on the list. _shrug_ ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2022-2023/977134/85 "2023-01-20T00:22:36Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > Yeah, calling it a surprise wasn’t really accurate…but I’d already created the section heading before I decided to throw them on the list. LOL, either way I do think it _is_ worth mentioning, just for the fact that the Rams have done so poorly. The Bears of course have won the title of the worst team in 2022 (as in, #1 draft pick), but they are in rebuild mode and that seems like a success more than a failure. Build a team to support the potential they have in their QB. Firing your head coach would sabotage that. List me as surprised that Josh McDaniels isn’t on the hot seat, or Arthur Smith in Atlanta. Though maybe they’re also in rebuilding mode. (At least Atlanta could be seen that way, I have no idea what the Hell is going on in Vegas right now.) ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2022-2023/977134/86 "2023-01-20T00:34:16Z")
Yeah, no one in Chicago is worried about Eberflus. The roster was intentionally terrible, and he did an admirable job with what he had. The culture is good and the staff appears to be good. McDaniels like Eberflus is a first year coach. I’m not a McDaniels fan (who is?) but you really need to do something spectacular to get canned after one season. The Raiders won a decent number of games and were competitive against a few playoff teams down the stretch. He’ll likely be around for a few seasons and he’ll be given a chance to draft and develop a QB. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2022-2023/977134/87 "2023-01-20T00:41:11Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > McDaniels like Eberflus is a first year coach. I’m not a McDaniels fan (who is?) but you really need to do something spectacular to get canned after one season. The Raiders won a decent number of games and were competitive against a few playoff teams down the stretch. He’ll likely be around for a few seasons and he’ll be given a chance to draft and develop a QB. Agreed. Realistically, after what the Gruden/Mayock regime did to the team (with a lot of failed draft choices), and with them choosing to part ways with Carr, it’s likely to take another year or three for them to restock and be truly competitive. OTOH, with an flaky and inscrutable owner, it’s hard to say exactly how patient they are going to be. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2022-2023/977134/88 "2023-01-20T02:33:24Z")
Like the Chargers, the Raiders are supposedly a cash poor team. They are still paying $10M/year to Gruden and will be for the next 4 years. McDaniels has a 4-year deal as well. Were they to fire him they’d end up paying 3 coaches big bucks. I said earlier that teams being “too cheap” to replace coaches is usually fake news, but McDaniels hasn’t really been bad enough to make this a must-fire situation. Mark Davis is a weird dude, but he’s not erratic enough to can McDaniels short of something incredibly toxic popping up. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2022-2023/977134/89 "2023-01-20T04:46:54Z")
> [@Wilson](#): > > Dolphins have also fired DC Josh Boyer. And, the [Vikings fired their DC, Ed Donatell](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35484287/vikings-fire-dc-ed-donatell-early-playoff-exit), continuing the trend of teams which lost last weekend, responding by firing a coordinator. Despite the fact that the Vikes were a 13-win team, the defense was awful (31st in yards allowed, 28th in points allowed). ---
**Author:** ![Wilson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@Wilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wilson)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2022-2023/977134/90 "2023-01-26T22:34:17Z")
Starting to see some hires… Frank Reich is in as head coach of the Panthers. Can’t say it’s a bad hire, but I sort of wanted Wilks to get the permanent job. Jets have hired Nathaniel Hackett to be their OC. I guess that means they’ll trade for Rodgers next… (sort of joking). As a sort of Jets fan, I’m ambivalent. Hackett’s had some success as an OC, but except for his Green Bay stint he was best at building up the running game, which isn’t exactly the Jets’ need at the point. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2022-2023/977134/91 "2023-01-26T22:56:44Z")
Breece Hall was a stud before he got hurt. I wouldn’t hate a run-oriented focus. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2023, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2022-2023/977134/92 "2023-01-27T05:33:49Z")
Few links for posterity. > **[Panthers choose Reich over Wilks to be new HC](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35532019/panthers-hire-ex-colts-coach-frank-reich-new-head-coach)** > > The Carolina Panthers have agreed to hire Frank Reich as their new head coach, the team announced Thursday. This is interesting mostly because it seems to absolve Reich of any culpability for the trainwreck that became the Colts and their QB situation. He was unceremoniously dumped midseason and other than riding shotgun to Doug Pederson’s SB run with the Eagles he doesn’t have much of a resume. Steve Wilks’ lawyer is signaling that there might be a Flores situation brewing in the wake of this. A cynic could suggest that hiring Wilks to be the interim is a Rooney Rule hack. Were I a Panthers fan I’d be pretty unsettled by this whole process. As a Bears fan I’m excited to think that Reich’s bad experience with Wentz and Ryan could be strong motivation to trade up for a rookie stud. > **[Jets hire ex-Broncos coach Hackett as new OC](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35531136/jets-hire-former-broncos-coach-nathaniel-hackett-new-oc)** > > Nathaniel Hackett, who was fired by the Broncos after 15 games as the team's head coach, has been hired by the Jets as offensive coordinator, the team announced Thursday. Another head scratcher, @Wilson was joking about Rodgers, but honestly what kind of maniac hires this guy for any other reason than to woo Rodgers to green light a trade? When you crash and burn like he did with what everyone thought was a pretty good roster on paper, you’d think he’d be toxic for a bit. But nope, dude fails right into a sweetheart gig with an up and coming team. > **[Quinn returning to Cowboys after HC interviews](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35532993/dc-dan-quinn-returning-cowboys-hc-interviews)** > > Cowboys defensive coordinator Dan Quinn will return to the team for the 2023 season after interviewing with three teams for their head coach vacancies. Everyone seemed to be treating him leaving as a foregone conclusion. He’s exactly the kind of retread that risk averse teams love to bring in, so him staying is a bit of a surprise. Unclear whether he’s deciding to withdraw because he wants to stay in Dallas or if there were no offers imminent. I suppose Dallas fans are marginally relieved, I’m sure this helps ensure another second or third place finish in the NFC East. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2023, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2022-2023/977134/93 "2023-01-27T15:48:46Z")
It’s intriguing that Greg Roman has left the Ravens, but it seems almost too perfect for him to go to the Bears. I’m sure the Bears would love to have him do for Justin Fields what he did for Lamar Jackson. But I’d be surprised that he would leave an OC position on a playoff caliber team to go to the team with the worst record in the NFL. Unless there’s something going on with him and Lamar (ala Kyler Murray), a step down like that doesn’t make sense. Of course he might have to settle (and the money would be excellent, I’m sure) for the Bears OC if no team hires him as Head Coach. It should be interesting to see how it plays out. Of course, there is that whole Luke Getsy issue too. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2023, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2022-2023/977134/94 "2023-01-27T15:53:08Z")
I don’t think the Bears have made any indication they’re moving on from Getsy though. Maybe in a year if the offense doesn’t improve with a better roster. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2023, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2022-2023/977134/95 "2023-01-27T17:38:03Z")
Perhaps the Bears bring Roman is as just the run-game coordinator. He’s good at that. He couldn’t draw up a decent pass play design to save his life. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2022-2023/977134/96 "2023-01-30T06:42:53Z")
> [@garygnu](#): > > Perhaps the Bears bring Roman is as just the run-game coordinator. He’s good at that. He couldn’t draw up a decent pass play design to save Yeah, I would love to have him as the run-game coordinator if he was interested. Doubt he would be, and Getsy’s run game was pretty freaking good behind a dismal line, so I’m not sure it’s a huge need. That said, I’m not writing the checks and more proven offensive minds are always wanted. He’s gone from Baltimore because he’s proven to be completely inept at everything NOT directly related to the running game. This [blog post](https://ebonybird.com/2023/01/19/case-keep-ravens-oc-greg-roman-2023/) gives a pretty decent summary of the turmoil there. It doesn’t seem like it’s an issue directly with Lamar, more that he seems like a guy who can’t get out of his own way and who would have been at home with offenses in the 1960s ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2022-2023/977134/97 "2023-01-30T07:36:18Z")
> **[Mike McCarthy to call plays as Cowboys part ways with offensive coordinator...](https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/cowboys/2023/01/29/mike-mccarthy-to-call-plays-as-cowboys-part-ways-with-offensive-coordinator-kellen-moore/)** > > Kellen Moore’s tenure as the Cowboys offensive coordinator is done. His successor already is in place. The club and Moore came to what is described as a... Kellen Moore gets the blame for the Cowboys whimpering offense to end the season. McCarthy is gonna call plays, presumably there will be a new OC but looks like they won’t have the reins. I would not be excited were I a Cowpokes fan. Interesting that both Roman and Moore’s departures are characterized as “mutually agreed upon”. I wonder what the motivation for this is both from the team and coach’s perspective. I assume it’s something to do with contracts and payouts, but these are always firings in all but name. > **[Texans Hire of 49ers Coach DeMeco Ryans 'Could Come Soon' - Source](https://www.si.com/nfl/texans/news/houston-texans-hire-demeco-ryans-san-francisco-49ers-source)** > > After the 49ers' season ended at the hands of the Eagles, the Houston Texans are expected to pursue defensive coordinator DeMeco Ryans as their next head coach. As was constantly scrolling on the chiron today during the games, Ryans seems like a fait accompli at this point in Houston. Now that the 49ers season is over, we can probably expect a formal announcement in a day or two. I wonder if the 49ers landed in the Super Bowl if that would have changed the math. He was drafted by the Texans and won the DROY award. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2022-2023/977134/98 "2023-01-30T17:38:06Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > Interesting that both Roman and Moore’s departures are characterized as “mutually agreed upon”. I wonder what the motivation for this is both from the team and coach’s perspective. I assume it’s something to do with contracts and payouts, but these are always firings in all but name. In Moore’s case, I suspect it was, at least in part, because he already had another job waiting for him: the Chargers are apparently hiring him as their new OC. > **[Chargers hiring Kellen Moore as their new OC](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35558060/sources-chargers-hiring-kellen-moore-new-oc)** > > The Chargers are hiring Kellen Moore as their new offensive coordinator. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2022-2023/977134/99 "2023-01-30T17:49:34Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > Eh, McCarthy has done a fine job this year. I can’t recall any choke jobs or spectacularly bad game management which cost them games this season. Most of the podcasters I’ve heard have mostly conceded that McCarthy earned his way off the hot seat this season. In my town, as soon as Dak got hurt they were running win/loss scenarios whereby the Cowboys might luck into the playoffs. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2022-2023/977134/100 "2023-01-31T21:24:36Z")
Payton to the Broncos rumors hearing up > **[Sources: Broncos near deal for Saints' Payton](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35564875/sources-broncos-finalizing-deal-saints-sean-payton)** > > The Saints and Broncos are finalizing compensation in return for Super Bowl-winning head coach Sean Payton, sources told ESPN's Adam Schefter. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2022-2023/977134.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2022-2023/977134.md?page=6)