# NFL Coaching Carousel: 2024-2025 Edition **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** football-nfl\ **Created:** [December 17, 2024, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2024-2025-edition/1011735 "2024-12-17T00:57:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2025, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2024-2025-edition/1011735/41 "2025-01-01T00:52:21Z")
No argument. I haven’t been pleased with any decision he’s made, honestly. I’ve said on here several times that I’m not sold on Richardson as the franchise QB. I will concede, however, that I don’t know who they should have picked instead. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2025, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2024-2025-edition/1011735/42 "2025-01-01T00:56:24Z")
I think Richardson could have done better with better coaching (true for many of the 1st and 2nd rounders for the last several years) but, unfortunately, it may be too late. Some QBs never really grow past starting their careers with a couple of seasons of a terrible roster (especially O-line) and coaching. We’ll just have to see. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2025, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2024-2025-edition/1011735/43 "2025-01-01T01:24:37Z")
Richardson may not be the next Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck, but maybe he could grow into a decent Jim Harbaugh. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2025, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2024-2025-edition/1011735/44 "2025-01-01T03:12:52Z")
He’s just finishing his second season and already he’s just a future psychotic rah-rah head coach? ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2025, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2024-2025-edition/1011735/45 "2025-01-01T03:23:54Z")
There are worse things to be. Harbaugh got the Chargers into the playoffs in his first season and looking like a legitimate football team that can actually finish games. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2025, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2024-2025-edition/1011735/46 "2025-01-01T03:52:24Z")
> [@garygnu](#): > > He’s just finishing his second season and already he’s just a future psychotic rah-rah head coach? Heh. Before that, though, I knew him as the guy who led my Colts to within one Hail Mary completion of the Super Bowl. And that was with Marshall Faulk injured and unavailable in the playoffs. We started Zack Crockett instead. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2025, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2024-2025-edition/1011735/47 "2025-01-05T23:14:21Z")
The Patriots lost by winning this week, dropping to the #4 pick in the draft from #1, which is a huge loss for a rebuilding franchise. And to my major surprise, Robert Kraft immediately fired rookie HC Jerod Mayo about an hour later. I thought Kraft would be too proud and stubborn to admit that he whiffed on Mayo and by not conducting a proper search last time. Here’s hoping there are some good HC candidates who want to come in and work with Drake Maye (starting with, I hope, hometown favorite Mike Vrabel). ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2025, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2024-2025-edition/1011735/48 "2025-01-05T23:34:34Z")
> [@ShadowFacts](#): > > I thought Kraft would be too proud and stubborn to admit that he whiffed on Mayo and by not conducting a proper search last time. > > Here’s hoping there are some good HC candidates who want to come in and work with Drake Maye (starting with, I hope, hometown favorite Mike Vrabel). I think the second part answers your first part. They need to go after Vrabel before someone else signs him. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2025, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2024-2025-edition/1011735/49 "2025-01-06T01:52:47Z")
> **[Browns fire OC Dorsey, OL coach after 1 season](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/43294926/sources-browns-fire-oc-ken-dorsey-ol-coach-andy-dickerson)** > > The Browns have fired offensive coordinator Ken Dorsey and offensive line coach Andy Dickerson. One more OC opening. And for posterity. > **[Pats fire Mayo after finishing 4-13 in lone season](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/43300017/patriots-fire-jerod-mayo-finishing-4-13-lone-season)** > > The Patriots have fired coach Jerod Mayo after one season, the team announced Sunday. This one is almost certainly a formality to satisfy the Rooney Rule, but worth noting. > **[GM: Bears to interview interim Brown for HC job](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/43296723/gm-ryan-poles-bears-interview-interim-thomas-brown-hc-job)** > > The Bears will interview interim coach Thomas Brown for the team's head coaching vacancy, general manager Ryan Poles said. It’s kind of interesting that the entire Bears leadership team is black right now. President: Warren, GM: Poles, Asst GM: Cunningham, HC: Brown, OC: Beatty, DC: Washington, ST: Hightower, QB: Caleb. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2025, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2024-2025-edition/1011735/50 "2025-01-06T13:25:51Z")
The Carousel spins again as the Jags move on from Pederson > **[Jaguars move on from coach Doug Pederson after yet another loss](https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/jaguars-move-on-from-coach-doug-pederson-after-yet-another-loss-132338851.html)** > > The Jaguars will be looking for yet another head coach for Trevor Lawrence. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2025, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2024-2025-edition/1011735/51 "2025-01-06T13:34:29Z")
Another Kliff suitor maybe. They desperately need someone to fix Trevor Lawrence. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2025, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2024-2025-edition/1011735/52 "2025-01-06T14:58:37Z")
Giants are keeping Brian Daboll and Jags are keeping GM Baalke. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2025, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2024-2025-edition/1011735/53 "2025-01-06T15:02:59Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > Jags are keeping GM Baalke. At some point, if he cares about winning more than a couple games a year, Shad Khan needs to figure out the only constants (besides losing) are himself and Trent Baalke. And the owner’s not going to fire himself. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2025, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2024-2025-edition/1011735/54 "2025-01-06T19:25:17Z")
Mike Macdonald had an extremely good rookie year as HC in Seattle. He missed the postseason but only due to a really flukey year. Pretty much any other year where you get 10 wins you’d expect to at least be a wildcard, but this is a year where you have a team with 14 wins only making it as a wildcard. Crazy stuff in the NFC. On the other hand, Seattlr fired their rookie OC (not just a rookie to the job, it’s his first job ever in the NFL). All year Seattle fans were wondering why they weren’t running the ball more when they won every game that had more running, except one game against the Rams that they only lost in OT. Apparently Macdonald had the same frustration. > **[Seahawks fire OC Grubb after missing playoffs](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/43310535/sources-seahawks-fire-oc-ryan-grubb-one-season)** > > The Seahawks have fired offensive coordinator Ryan Grubb after one season, coach Mike Macdonald confirmed Monday. Ryan Grubb was OC for the University of Washington under Kalen DeBoer before going to the Seahawks, and rumor is that he’ll be going back to working for DeBoer in Alabama. > **[Seahawks firing Ryan Grubb could open the door for him to join the Alabama staff](https://bamahammer.com/seahawks-firing-ryan-grubb-could-open-the-door-for-him-to-join-the-alabama-staff-01jgy962bwwr)** > > Ryan Grubb was Alabama's offensive coordinator for around a month. After not landing the head coaching job at Washington, Grubb initially agreed to join Kalen D At least Alabama fans seem to want it to happen. No idea who will have OC duties in Seattle now, but they have months to figure it out. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2025, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2024-2025-edition/1011735/55 "2025-01-06T21:58:00Z")
Rex Ryan is scheduled to interview for the Jets job tomorrow, and has stated at least one way that his approach would be different than how the Jets operated the past few years: > [@](#): > > Ryan, appearing Monday morning on ESPN New York radio, ripped (Aaron Rodgers) for skipping the team’s mandatory minicamp last June to take a vacation to Egypt. He also criticized the organization’s “abysmal” leadership for condoning it. > > “Clearly, when you have a guy that doesn’t show up for mandatory minicamp – and, by the way, he’s your quarterback, coming off an injury – I think that’s an absolutely ridiculous message you send to the team,” Ryan said during a spot on the “DiPietro & Rothenberg Show.” > > “If he comes back, things would be different. If he’s back, it ain’t gonna be the country club, show up whenever the hell you want to show up. That ain’t gonna happen. I’ll just leave it at that,” Ryan said. > **[Ryan: If Jets HC, I'll end Rodgers 'country club'](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/43310055/rex-ryan-says-convinced-jets-hire-next-coach)** > > Rex Ryan said on ESPN New York radio Monday that he is convinced he will be hired to return as the team's new head coach. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2025, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2024-2025-edition/1011735/56 "2025-01-06T22:01:59Z")
I want to see him get the job just so that he can deal with Rodgers. They deserve each other. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2025, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2024-2025-edition/1011735/57 "2025-01-06T22:04:29Z")
> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#): > > I want to see him get the job just so that he can deal with Rodgers. Bumfight 2025! ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2025, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2024-2025-edition/1011735/58 "2025-01-06T22:17:05Z")
I’d love to see Ryan get the job because who wouldn’t want to see lighter fluid dropped on that dumpster fire? Even without a damned snack, that would be a leading candidate for Hard Knocks next season. Or maybe do a intra-division version with both the Jets and Patriots. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2025, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2024-2025-edition/1011735/59 "2025-01-07T02:39:36Z")
The reporting about who the Bears have requested interviews with is absolutely wild. They have no fucking filter. > **[Bears head coach tracker: Everyone Chicago has requested to interview](https://bearswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/bears/2025/01/06/bears-head-coach-tracker-2024-every-interview-request/77482836007/)** > > The Bears are searching for a new head coach. Here's an updated tracker of everyone the team has requested to interview so far. The above list isn’t even complete. Mike McCarthy? Shoot me. Drew Petzing? Cardinals fans are begging us to take him. Mike Kafka? The mastermind behind Daniel Jones? David Shaw? Dudes not even coaching right now. What the fuck are we even doing here? ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2025, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2024-2025-edition/1011735/60 "2025-01-07T02:58:54Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > Mike Kafka? The mastermind behind Daniel Jones? I talked with Mike Kafka for about a half-hour, back in 2009, when he was Northwestern’s starting QB, and a communications major. One of my colleagues at the ad agency where I was working was a big Northwestern backer, and asked me to talk with Kafka about advertising strategy and market research (apparently because it was an area Kafka was interested in). He, ummm…did not strike me as being a particularly sharp guy. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2024-2025-edition/1011735.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2024-2025-edition/1011735.md?page=4)