# NFL Coaching Carousel: 2024-2025 Edition

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** football-nfl\
**Created:** [December 17, 2024, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2024-2025-edition/1011735 "2024-12-17T00:57:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2025, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2024-2025-edition/1011735/61 "2025-01-07T18:02:30Z")

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Inexplicably, Jim Irsay has announced that GM Chris Ballard and head coach Shane Steichen [will return next season](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/43303081/colts-irsay-says-steichen-ballard-back-next-season).

I’m okay with Steichen returning, but Chris Ballard has been a disaster during his time as GM, and it just boggles my mind that he’s being brought back to fuck the team up at least one more time.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2025, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2024-2025-edition/1011735/62 "2025-01-07T18:08:33Z")

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The Titans, which finished 3-14 and earned the first pick in this year’s draft, have fired their GM, Ran Carthon, but are keeping head coach Brian Callahan.

> **[Titans fire GM Carthon; Callahan to remain HC](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/43321495/titans-fire-gm-ran-carthon-brian-callahan-remain-coach)**
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> The Titans fired general manager Ran Carthon on Tuesday after finishing 3-14 this season and earning the No. 1 pick in the 2025 draft.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2025, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2024-2025-edition/1011735/63 "2025-01-07T18:08:59Z")

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> [@Omniscient](#):
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> The reporting about who the Bears have requested interviews with is absolutely wild. They have no fucking filter.

Eh, feels like everyone is gnashing and wailing over nothing. I think it’s pretty clear that Johnson is their number 1 choice, but all they can do is a zoom meeting with him until the Lions are out of the playoffs. So it’s going to be a lot of zoom chats until then. Also, it’s kinda good experience for Poles. Remember last time they did all the HC interviews before hiring a GM, and then he picked a HC only two days later.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2025, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2024-2025-edition/1011735/64 "2025-01-07T18:34:56Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> Inexplicably, Jim Irsay has announced that GM Chris Ballard and head coach Shane Steichen [will return next season](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/43303081/colts-irsay-says-steichen-ballard-back-next-season).

Inexplicably, nepo-baby and high-end drug user Jim Irsay will return as OWNER next year. He has been a disaster during his time as GM owner and it just boggles my mind that he’s continuing to fuck up the team (and Cleveland over the new stadium) for at least another decade.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2025, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2024-2025-edition/1011735/65 "2025-01-07T18:41:01Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> The Titans, which finished 3-14 and earned the first pick in this year’s draft, have fired their GM, Ran Carthon, but are keeping head coach Brian Callahan.

I’m wondering if Mr. Mayonnaise is their QB of the future or if they’ll gamble on one of the guys in this draft being better than predicted.

And will it be the decision of whoever the next GM will be?

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2025, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2024-2025-edition/1011735/66 "2025-01-07T20:22:29Z")

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While I agree with you, it’s much harder to fire the owner than the GM.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2025, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2024-2025-edition/1011735/67 "2025-01-07T20:51:16Z")

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And now the Raiders fire Antonio Pierce

> **[Source: Raiders fire Pierce after finishing 4-13](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/43324313/source-raiders-fire-antonio-pierce-finishing-4-13)**
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> The Raiders have fired head coach Antonio Pierce after one season, a source told ESPN's Adam Schefter on Tuesday.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2025, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2024-2025-edition/1011735/68 "2025-01-07T21:22:21Z")

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> Inexplicably, nepo-baby and high-end drug user Jim Irsay will return as OWNER next year. He has been a disaster during his time as GM owner and it just boggles my mind that he’s continuing to fuck up the team (and Cleveland over the new stadium) for at least another decade.

Don’t be so sure. I’m not sure the dude will still be around come Week 1.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2025, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2024-2025-edition/1011735/69 "2025-01-07T21:26:05Z")

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The only guy in the draft that probably justifies 1OA is Travis Hunter. In order to pass on QB they’ll need to make peace with the guy they ultimately pick. The consensus is that this is a weak and muddled group at the very top. I’m betting a new GM isn’t going to marry himself to Levis, but they seem like a candidate for Kirk Cousins or Sam Darnold to come in as a placeholder.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2025, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2024-2025-edition/1011735/70 "2025-01-07T22:19:07Z")

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> [@Omniscient](#):
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> The only guy in the draft that probably justifies 1OA is Travis Hunter.

If Tennessee drafted him that would be pretty sensible.

How much you bet they won’t? 😜

(Seriously, Travis Hunter is freaking amazing.)

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2025, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2024-2025-edition/1011735/71 "2025-01-08T01:13:53Z")

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This has been an amazingly mundane Black Monday this year.

By my count, exactly one Head Coach and zero GMs were fired on Monday.

We did lose Mayo on Sunday. And Pierce on Tuesday. Ran Carthon got canned Tuesday as the only new GM opening. These are obviously in addition to the handful of midsession changes.

Not sure if this means that teams are just moving more slowly or if there’s going to be an uncommonly low amount of attrition.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2025, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2024-2025-edition/1011735/72 "2025-01-08T01:22:08Z")

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> [@Omniscient](#):
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> Mike McCarthy? Shoot me.

The Cowboys’ contract with McCarthy expires tomorrow, but they apparently have exclusive negotiating rights with him for another week (through the 14th). The Bears asked the Cowboys for permission to interview McCarthy prior to then, and were told “nope.”

Oh, and this:

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> Bears general manager Ryan Poles, who will lead the team’s search for its next coach, said during his season-ending news conference Tuesday that all options are on the table, including considering trading for a coach.

Poor Omni.

> **[Source: Cowboys deny Bears' McCarthy request](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/43326478/cowboys-deny-bears-permission-interview-mccarthy-source)**
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> The Cowboys have denied permission to the Bears to interview coach Mike McCarthy, a source told ESPN's Adam Schefter on Tuesday.

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2025, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2024-2025-edition/1011735/73 "2025-01-08T01:39:40Z")

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They do have Pete Carroll lined up. He could be an interesting fit. It’s not super exciting, but he can at least right the ship.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2025, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2024-2025-edition/1011735/74 "2025-01-08T19:48:46Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> Bears general manager Ryan Poles, who will lead the team’s search for its next coach, said during his season-ending news conference Tuesday that all options are on the table, including considering trading for a coach.

To be clear, someone asked about trading for a head coach and he said all options are on the table. He didn’t offer that up unprompted.

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**Post date:** [January 8, 2025, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2024-2025-edition/1011735/75 "2025-01-08T23:47:05Z")

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In addition to canning their special teams coordinator, the 49ers are dropping defensive coordinator Nick Sorenson. Reports are they may keep him in a different position, maybe even ST coordinator. Robert Saleh is said to be a target, depending on his traction in the head coach market.

On top of that, they promoted Klay Kubiak to offensive coordinator, but Kyle Shanahan will continue to call plays. Kyle had Klay call the final game against the Cardinals, and he did a good job (3 turnovers by a backup QB, yet another missed FG, and a colander defense weren’t his fault).

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2025, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2024-2025-edition/1011735/76 "2025-01-09T20:13:25Z")

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> [@Omniscient](#):
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> By my count, exactly one Head Coach and zero GMs were fired on Monday.

Now the GM is out in Vegas.

> **[Raiders fire GM Telesco days after firing Pierce](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/43347766/raiders-fire-gm-tom-telesco-days-firing-coach-antonio-pierce)**
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> The Las Vegas Raiders have fired general manager Tom Telesco after one season, the team announced Thursday.

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**Post date:** [January 9, 2025, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2024-2025-edition/1011735/77 "2025-01-09T21:00:59Z")

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Am I the only one praying for Deion-Shedeur-Shilo in Las Vegas, just for the slow-motion train wreck?

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2025, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2024-2025-edition/1011735/78 "2025-01-09T21:13:51Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Now the GM is out in Vegas.

Not only do I find it a little weird to dismiss the coach and GM on different days, but Telesco got canned after only one season, and Pierce after only one full season (he was interim coach for the second half of 2023).

The Raiders continue to be one of the most dysfunctional organizations in the league, and it seems like the only thing that they really know how to do at this point is to squander good talent.

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**Post date:** [January 10, 2025, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2024-2025-edition/1011735/79 "2025-01-10T00:54:15Z")

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According to reports, Jets, Raiders, and Jags have all requested to interview Chiefs defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo.

[A third team has requested an interview with Steve Spagnuolo](https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/a-third-team-has-requested-an-interview-with-steve-spagnuolo/ar-BB1raIc2?ocid=BingNewsSerp)

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2025, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-coaching-carousel-2024-2025-edition/1011735/80 "2025-01-10T01:24:54Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> The Raiders continue to be one of the most dysfunctional organizations in the league, and it seems like the only thing that they really know how to do at this point is to squander good talent.

Hey…another season or two of Chris Ballard, and the Colts will be challenging them for the title.

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