# NFL Conference Championships (2010)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships-2010/525999>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [January 22, 2010, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships-2010/525999 "2010-01-22T16:32:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships-2010/525999/161 "2010-01-25T03:42:16Z")

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Great teams overcome bullshit calls. Especially teams that expect to make it to the Super Bowl.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships-2010/525999/162 "2010-01-25T03:42:29Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> No, the shit calls did.

Nope, had nothing at all to do with those turnovers. Nope…nothing.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships-2010/525999/163 "2010-01-25T03:43:08Z")

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> [@UncleNito](#):
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> Like Favre, come to think of it. Although like you, **Hamlet** , I felt a little tinge of sadness and guilt when I updated my Facebook status and then saw Favre crying ☹

I was actually shocked by my reaction. I think he’s a selfish, stupid, prima donna who has no compunction about screwing over a team to feed his massive ego, but he isn’t, in any way, shape or form, a bad man. And I always kinda liked his wife. I had thought that I’d get a great deal of joy out of watching him make a huge mistake at the end of the game that may very well have cost his team a trip to the Super Bowl. But after watching him sit on the bench and crying after the game, I actually kinda feel bad for him.

And then I read Dio’s posts, and just revel in his [Dio’s] self-immolation.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships-2010/525999/164 "2010-01-25T03:43:18Z")

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They didn’t get that 4th down either. That was incredibly clear on replay.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships-2010/525999/165 "2010-01-25T03:45:02Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> Great teams overcome bullshit calls.

I don’t know about that (I actually kind of oubt that it’s true), but the Vikings aren’t a great team, just a good team that deserved to have the game called squarely.

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**Author:** ![HongKongFooey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c4cdca/32.png) [@HongKongFooey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HongKongFooey)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships-2010/525999/166 "2010-01-25T03:46:45Z")

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The feelings people have about Favre are understandable but he’s a forty year old guy who was clobbered repeatedly and then watched what is likely his last shot at the brass ring slip away. It has to be many kinds of painful. He’s tough, no questioning that.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships-2010/525999/167 "2010-01-25T03:48:13Z")

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Every team deserves to have it called fairly - but it’s a relatively rare occurrence, because so many calls are subjective. If a team wants to complain about BS calls, then the rest of their game needs to be relatively mistake-free. The Vikings have absolutely zero room to bitch about the officiating after that mess.

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**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships-2010/525999/168 "2010-01-25T03:50:26Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> Enjoy your illegitimate victory, Saints fans. Just remember, New Orleans drinks Twin Cities sewage. I’m going to go flush my toiet and send you some more water.

They don’t just drink it, they live in it. It’s still the best city in America to eat, drink and have a good time.

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**Author:** ![HongKongFooey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c4cdca/32.png) [@HongKongFooey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HongKongFooey)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships-2010/525999/169 "2010-01-25T03:51:35Z")

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You have to outplay the officiating. It’s been true for a long time.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships-2010/525999/170 "2010-01-25T03:52:35Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> They didn’t get that 4th down either. That was incredibly clear on replay.

Did you get a different video feed in Minneapolis? Because I just rewound it, and there are absolutely no reference markers to determine where the ball was when it reached the furthest point. The only thing that was clear about it was that it was completely inconclusive.

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**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships-2010/525999/171 "2010-01-25T03:53:00Z")

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I understand that PI is non-reviewable but what about catchability? Shouldn’t that be reviewable?

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**Author:** ![Cuckoorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Cuckoorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cuckoorex)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships-2010/525999/172 "2010-01-25T03:53:32Z")

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Is there any other running back in the NFL that seems as much a liability as an asset than Peterson? Gah.

Yeah, the Favre INT was major, but the PI call was bogus and I really don’t think that last reception was legit. But all the Vikes had to do to render this conversation moot would have been to hold onto the ball. Peterson especially needs to stop greasing up before the games.

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**Author:** ![Bearflag70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Bearflag70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bearflag70)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships-2010/525999/173 "2010-01-25T03:53:55Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> Enjoy your illegitimate victory, Saints fans.

> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> What decided the game was back to back shit calls by the officials.

> [@Question about NFL incident in DAL vs. MIN (spoilers)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-nfl-incident-in-dal-vs-min-spoilers/525512/18):
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> … voicing an objection does not make one a child.

> [@Question about NFL incident in DAL vs. MIN (spoilers)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-nfl-incident-in-dal-vs-min-spoilers/525512/20):
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> It does if the objection is childish.

> [@Question about NFL incident in DAL vs. MIN (spoilers)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/question-about-nfl-incident-in-dal-vs-min-spoilers/525512/4):
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> What’s unsportsmanlike is the other side crying like babies about getting routed instead of doing what they’re paid to do …

😛

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**Author:** ![flickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7bcc69/32.png) [@flickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flickster)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships-2010/525999/174 "2010-01-25T03:54:13Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> They didn’t get that 4th down either. That was incredibly clear on replay.

With your superior vision, the NFL should contract you to be the replay official. You were able to clearly see what the rest of us weren’t.

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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships-2010/525999/175 "2010-01-25T03:54:57Z")

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I wonder if this off-season will bring another exciting chapter from the latest of Aesop’s Fables: “The Favre Who Cried Retirement”.

Out of the remaining teams in conference championship weekend, I’m glad to see the Saints going to the Super Bowl – especially since they were one of 5 remaining NFL teams who have never been there. Now there will be only 4.

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**Author:** ![Carmady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@Carmady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carmady)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships-2010/525999/176 "2010-01-25T03:55:09Z")

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I think the Saints deserve some credit for the fumbles. Their defense seemed to let the Vikings pick up extra yards so they would have more room to try and force the ball out.

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**Author:** ![flickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7bcc69/32.png) [@flickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flickster)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships-2010/525999/177 "2010-01-25T03:56:00Z")

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Now the Vikings get to play the Favre decision game…have fun with that

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**Author:** ![UncleNito](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/7cd45c/32.png) [@UncleNito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleNito)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships-2010/525999/178 "2010-01-25T03:56:42Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> Did you get a different video feed in Minneapolis? Because I just rewound it, and there are absolutely no reference markers to determine where the ball was when it reached the furthest point. The only thing that was clear about it was that it was completely inconclusive.

This. The angle that showed the ball most clearly didn’t show the field at all, which is why the announcers didn’t make a huge deal out of it. But save your breath.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships-2010/525999/179 "2010-01-25T04:00:26Z")

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> [@UncleNito](#):
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> But save your breath.

Oh, I fully expect him to stand his ground, shifting only his definition of “clear” so far that not even those refs would call a pass interference on the play since it’s such a reach.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2010, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships-2010/525999/180 "2010-01-25T04:01:41Z")

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> [@Bearflag70](#):
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> 😛

I’m not a player. I’m also not complaining about normal, legal gameplay, which is what Keith Brookings was doing.

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