# NFL Conference Championships

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/678677>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [January 13, 2014, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/678677 "2014-01-13T17:35:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/678677/221 "2014-01-20T07:21:36Z")

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> [@DKW](#):
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> Okay…as I did with that priceless post-ALCS Joe Girardi press conference from a few years back, I went right to the source, [ESPN.com](http://ESPN.com):

That’s nice, but you found the wrong interview. The rant was in the immediate post-game interview with Erin Andrews:

_“I’m the best corner in the game. When you try me with a sorry receiver like Crabtree, that’s the result you gonna get. Don’t you ever talk about me. […] Don’t you open your mouth about the best or I’m gonna shut it for you real quick.”_

[Cite.](http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/01/richard-sherman-erin-andrews-interview/)

ETA: Ninja’d by\*\* It’s Not Rocket Surgery.\*\*

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**Author:** ![It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/it_s_not_rocket_surgery/32/312_2.png) [@It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/It_s_Not_Rocket_Surgery)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/678677/222 "2014-01-20T07:28:48Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> I’m surprised by your prediction, honestly. The Broncos defense isn’t the 49ers defense for sure, but in games like this it doesn’t seem to matter, and outside of Marshawn Lynch, I am completely unimpressed with the Seahawks offense. I think it will be a shootout.
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> Which would be great as I am tired of Superbowls that suck.

Superbowls that suck? Yeesh - kids these days. 😃

This is the golden era of competitive Super Bowls. The vast majority of SB games since the late 90s has been decided in the last couple of minutes and/or by a touchdown or less. I started watching in the 80s, where almost every year a hapless AFC team got the crap kicked out of them, and the only excitement in the 4th quarter came if you had good numbers in the pool. Before the recent streak, you had maybe one really good SB every decade. Now it’s surprising if a team wins by 10 or 11.

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/678677/223 "2014-01-20T07:40:22Z")

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> [@DKW](#):
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> From what I can see, Sherman was really, really fired up over the defensive stop that iced the game, then did the usual we’re-number-one spiel. Maybe a tiny bit over the line, but I’m not going to crucify him over it.

From what I read and saw, Sherman approached Crabtree after the play and tried to shake his hand, all sportsmanlike, and Crabtree got in his face, which ended with Sherman getting the “unsportsmanlike conduct/taunting” call. No wonder he was pissed.

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**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/678677/224 "2014-01-20T08:46:36Z")

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> [@Mister\_Rik](#):
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> From what I read and saw, Sherman approached Crabtree after the play and tried to shake his hand, all sportsmanlike, and Crabtree got in his face, which ended with Sherman getting the “unsportsmanlike conduct/taunting” call. No wonder he was pissed.

Well, I don’t know what words he actually said to Crabtree, but his demeanor was hardly one of gentlemanly sportsmanship. Even if he actually said something like “Hey, good game, buddy,” he was in effect jumping & shouting & celebrating right in the guy’s face. And I seriously doubt whatever he said had no edge to it.

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**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 8:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/678677/225 "2014-01-20T08:47:56Z")

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> [@It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](#):
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> Except that’s the wrong interview! You want the on-field one with Erin Andrews:
> 
> [http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2014/1/19/5326210/video-richard-sherman-post-game-interview-rant-erin-andrews-49ers-michael-crabtree](http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2014/1/19/5326210/video-richard-sherman-post-game-interview-rant-erin-andrews-49ers-michael-crabtree)

Erin Andrews did NOT seem amused.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 10:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/678677/226 "2014-01-20T10:02:59Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> Maybe it’s just may Kaepernick dislike talking, but does anyone think that the 49ers may have won that game if Alex Smith was their QB? The game was there for the taking, what with the Niners defense playing so well, but it was the two interceptions, the fumble, and the inability to throw a pass longer than 8 yards that gave Seattle the win.

You can’t be serious.

> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> Which would be great as I am tired of Superbowls that suck.

You can’t be serious.

> [@Mister\_Rik](#):
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> From what I read and saw, Sherman approached Crabtree after the play and tried to shake his hand, all sportsmanlike, and Crabtree got in his face, which ended with Sherman getting the “unsportsmanlike conduct/taunting” call. No wonder he was pissed.

You can’t be serious.

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/678677/227 "2014-01-20T10:40:17Z")

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LOL

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/678677/228 "2014-01-20T14:18:01Z")

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> [@It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](#):
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> Superbowls that suck? Yeesh - kids these days. 😃
> 
> This is the golden era of competitive Super Bowls. The vast majority of SB games since the late 90s has been decided in the last couple of minutes and/or by a touchdown or less. I started watching in the 80s, where almost every year a hapless AFC team got the crap kicked out of them, and the only excitement in the 4th quarter came if you had good numbers in the pool. Before the recent streak, you had maybe one really good SB every decade. Now it’s surprising if a team wins by 10 or 11.

I suppose I should have said something more along the lines of “Super Bowls that include players/teams that I may give an iota of a shit about”.

🙂

I’m a Bengals fan, I’m always salty!

But, I find it hard not to root for Peyton Manning, and now with Sherman opening his big fat mouth, I now want to see Manning shut it by picking on him relentlessly.

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**Author:** ![Laggard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@Laggard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laggard)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/678677/229 "2014-01-20T14:29:44Z")

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> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#):
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> The referees were bad and bad on Seattle’s favor. Two of their big screwups were costly. The unnecessary roughness near halftime cost the niners a chance to make a couple off pays to get into field goal range. And then there was the roughing the kicker call. Of course they blew the Bowman fumble recovery but that actually helped the Niners, inadvertently.

Yep. They seem to benefit a lot from bad calls.

With a better QB SF wins last night. I put the majority of the blame on CK. The interception was just a horrible decision (and he was lucky that the same exact thing didn’t happen on the TD pass he threw) and he didn’t even see a couple wide open receivers.

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**Author:** ![kurtisokc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kurtisokc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kurtisokc)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/678677/230 "2014-01-20T14:38:58Z")

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> [@leftfield6](#):
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> Richard Sherman, Pete Carroll, AND Terry Bradshaw on the same stage at the same time. What is this, some kind of asshole convention?

I’ve never thought of Terry Bradshaw as an asshole. A clown, definitely, but not an asshole. Your right about Sherman and Carroll though.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/678677/231 "2014-01-20T15:41:32Z")

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Adding to my joy, Bill Bellicheck has his hoodie in a bunch over Wes Welker executing a pick play on Aqib Talib, a play that knocked Talib out. [Story here](http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/wp/2014/01/20/bill-belichick-calls-out-wes-welker-for-hit-on-aqib-talib-gif/?tid=hpModule_a4df998e-86a7-11e2-9d71-f0feafdd1394). Oddly enough, he didn’t mention the fact that his very own team ran a pick play earlier in the game with Michael Hoomanawaui getting penalized for pass interference after injuring DMC.

I thought it was clearly a pick play, and I would love to see that called more often, even to the point of it being a discussion for the rules committee over the offseason. But I think Bellicheck is off his rocker thinking Welker deliberately tried to injury Talib.

Bellicheck’s tears must taste like rainbows.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/678677/232 "2014-01-20T15:42:54Z")

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RE: Sherman.

I can only hope the Broncos are giving the whole thing less weight than the people online. If not, Sherman just won the psych battle big time.

Sure, he acts like an asshole, but guys like that feed on the negative attention and just keep doing it and continue to try to get into players’ heads. It only helps him by keeping it in the news up to the Superbowl.

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**Author:** ![MilTan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71e660/32.png) [@MilTan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MilTan)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/678677/233 "2014-01-20T15:52:10Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> I don’t care what kind of shit transpired between Crabtree and Sherman. That was the most classless bullshit I have ever seen in my decades of watching football. Fuck that guy with a sharp pole. I hope Manning rips him apart.
> 
> Seriously, here’s the same exchange, but with Manning instead:
> 
> “Peyton, on that last drive, you really seemed to be on it. What are your thoughts on how that played out?”
> 
> Manning: “I AM THE BEST QUARTERBACK IN THE LEAGUE AND TOM BRADY TALKED SHIT ABOUT ME AND I MADE HIM SUCK MY DICK”
> 
> Seriously…how is that different? Answer: It’s not,… other than Manning has the ability to respect his opponents and Sherman is a drug abusing asshole playing for a cheating coach that barely avoided sanctions at USC by jumping to the NFL.
> 
> Otherwise, it’s EXACTLY the same. GO BRONCOS.

That’s nowhere close to “exactly the same.” Was Sherman arrogant? Indubitably. Was he an asshole? Probably. Was he vulgar or obscene? Not in the slightest. Nothing he said was remotely comparable to “[Michael Crabtree] talked shit about me and I made him suck my dick.”

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/678677/234 "2014-01-20T16:01:42Z")

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I’m surprised that some NFL fans are surprised that Richard Sherman is an asshole.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/678677/235 "2014-01-20T16:09:17Z")

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> [@garygnu](#):
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> I’m surprised that some NFL fans are surprised that Richard Sherman is an asshole.

No kidding. Between getting in Tom Brady’s face last year and his twitter spat with Revis, you’d think more fans would know about his antics.

It’s incredible in a way. Despite doing exactly the same stuff he’s done for the last 3 or 4 years, he’s still managed to punk the entire nation.

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**Author:** ![Bellhorn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@Bellhorn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bellhorn)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/678677/236 "2014-01-20T16:58:51Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> Adding to my joy, Bill Bellicheck has his hoodie in a bunch over Wes Welker executing a pick play on Aqib Talib, a play that knocked Talib out. [Story here](http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/wp/2014/01/20/bill-belichick-calls-out-wes-welker-for-hit-on-aqib-talib-gif/?tid=hpModule_a4df998e-86a7-11e2-9d71-f0feafdd1394). Oddly enough, he didn’t mention the fact that his very own team ran a pick play earlier in the game with Michael Hoomanawaui getting penalized for pass interference after injuring DMC.
> 
> I thought it was clearly a pick play, and I would love to see that called more often, even to the point of it being a discussion for the rules committee over the offseason. But I think Bellicheck is off his rocker thinking Welker deliberately tried to injury Talib.
> 
> Bellicheck’s tears must taste like rainbows.

Welker is something of a very clever troll, who had developed a knack at twitting Belichick. He went up to BB after the game and said something, and, knowing Wes, he might have said something to play mind games with the greatest coach in the salary cap era. Outside of Brady, Talib was the most indispensible player on the Pats. They have young talented DBs who don’t know what to do yet, and they have vets who know what to do but can’t do it anymore. Talib is/was the entire package. When he went down, the game was basically over.

On the CSN/NE postgame show, in Boston, former Pats, Ty Law and Troy Brown both were in agreement that it was a pick play, but that it’s near impossible to try and intentionally injure another. Everything is happening too quickly. Brown played both receiver and fill-in DB, in his later years, so he has a lot of credibility. Law mentioned that as a DB, you have to have your head on a swivel when a pick play is possible. The host of the show, insisted it was intentional, but that if a Pats receiver had taken out an opposing DB in a big game, we’d give him a parade.

Still, those kind of plays should be reviewed. It’s yet another reason why I really can’t get into football all the way.

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**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/678677/237 "2014-01-20T17:17:38Z")

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> [@Mister\_Rik](#):
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> From what I read and saw, Sherman approached Crabtree after the play and tried to shake his hand, all sportsmanlike, and Crabtree got in his face, which ended with Sherman getting the “unsportsmanlike conduct/taunting” call. No wonder he was pissed.

I think the flag was because Sherman made the choke sign right after Crabtree’s “response.”

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Quatro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bc8723/32.png) [@Mr\_Quatro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Quatro)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/678677/238 "2014-01-20T17:19:11Z")

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> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> Oh, was that Sherman? I thought it was Dennis Rodman.

truly funny 😃

I thought the on the field sports lady holding the microphone had the best come back, “What are you talking about”? “Who’s saying anything about you”?

She was cool … he can be forgiven for being excited for foiling that pass in the last few seconds of the game into his team mates hands, but I can’t imagine anyone on the Denver Broncos being that classless even after they beat Seattle 44 points to 12 in the Super Bowl lol

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/678677/239 "2014-01-20T17:37:40Z")

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> [@Bellhorn](#):
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> The host of the show, insisted it was intentional, but that if a Pats receiver had taken out an opposing DB in a big game, we’d give him a parade.

I think this highlights one of the reasons to hate Bellicheck. He calls, and executes, a pick play, injuring the other teams DB (although Rodgers Cromartie returned) and it’s not a problem. But an ex-player of his whom had the balls to stand up to him does it and it’s a dirty, intentional play that should result in a punishment from the NFL. He, and Pats fans, have absolutely no reason to bitch.

> [@Bellhorn](#):
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> Still, those kind of plays should be reviewed.

And it will.

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/678677/240 "2014-01-20T18:08:18Z")

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Some truly classy Seattle fans threw popcorn at the cart carrying Navorro Bowman off the field. I’m sure they just wanted to make shure he started his recovery off well with good nutrition.

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