# NFL Conference Championships

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/678677>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [January 13, 2014, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/678677 "2014-01-13T17:35:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2014, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/678677/281 "2014-01-22T17:26:03Z")

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I’m pretty sure it was for the choking sign he gave toward Kaepernick.

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**Author:** ![Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/do_not_taunt/32/2968_2.png) [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Do_Not_Taunt)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2014, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/678677/282 "2014-01-22T18:24:20Z")

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> [@Chanteuse](#):
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> Actually, I believe it was this snide [whack on the ass](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vja2BYAVnGw) that Crabtree was reacting to and that got Sherman flagged.
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> I thought the flag was well-deserved, and I say this as a Cowboys fan who loathes the 49er’s.

Your youtube video seems to have been pulled.

Here’s a picture that tells a completely different story: [http://simmqb.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/sherman-crabtree-960.jpg](http://simmqb.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/sherman-crabtree-960.jpg). Without knowing what was said out there, it’s really impossible to say whether Crabtree, Sherman, both, or neither was really being unsportsmanlike in this exchange. But it’s at least plausible to think Sherman tried to be classy with Crabtree, got snubbed, and was pissed off when that interview rolled around. (But even if not, his interview was still a thousand times better than the typical post-game yawner.)

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**Author:** ![Chanteuse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9de053/32.png) [@Chanteuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chanteuse)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2014, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/678677/283 "2014-01-22T21:11:19Z")

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> [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](#):
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> Your youtube video seems to have been pulled.
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> Here’s a picture that tells a completely different story: [http://simmqb.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/sherman-crabtree-960.jpg](http://simmqb.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/sherman-crabtree-960.jpg). Without knowing what was said out there, it’s really impossible to say whether Crabtree, Sherman, both, or neither was really being unsportsmanlike in this exchange. But it’s at least plausible to think Sherman tried to be classy with Crabtree, got snubbed, and was pissed off when that interview rolled around. (But even if not, his interview was still a thousand times better than the typical post-game yawner.)

[Here is the same video.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfsVF4E9ZrQ) Hope it’s still there!

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**Author:** ![Hakuna\_Matata](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@Hakuna\_Matata](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hakuna_Matata)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2014, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/678677/284 "2014-01-23T02:14:38Z")

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> [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](#):
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> Your youtube video seems to have been pulled.
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> Here’s a picture that tells a completely different story: [http://simmqb.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/sherman-crabtree-960.jpg](http://simmqb.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/sherman-crabtree-960.jpg). Without knowing what was said out there, it’s really impossible to say whether Crabtree, Sherman, both, or neither was really being unsportsmanlike in this exchange. But it’s at least plausible to think Sherman tried to be classy with Crabtree, got snubbed, and was pissed off when that interview rolled around. (But even if not, his interview was still a thousand times better than the typical post-game yawner.)

Q13 here in Seattle has a audio that isn’t online yet. Sherman was miked up for the NFL films and they have the interaction on tape with audio. In that audio he says ‘helluv a game, helluv a game’ and then Crabtree pushed him. They played the audio but I can’t find it online yet. So I think your plausible explanation seems very probable now.

Well I did find this bad version someone taped–but I imagine a better version will be available soon. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irsNUceR5Vw](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irsNUceR5Vw)

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**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2014, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/678677/285 "2014-01-23T03:17:40Z")

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> [@Hakuna\_Matata](#):
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> Q13 here in Seattle has a audio that isn’t online yet. Sherman was miked up for the NFL films and they have the interaction on tape with audio. In that audio he says ‘helluv a game, helluv a game’ and then Crabtree pushed him. They played the audio but I can’t find it online yet. So I think your plausible explanation seems very probable now.
> 
> Well I did find this bad version someone taped–but I imagine a better version will be available soon. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irsNUceR5Vw](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irsNUceR5Vw)

Wow, I thought for sure Sherman trash talked him but in that [NFL.com](http://NFL.com) video (same as youtube but better quality) it was pretty darn clear he said “helluva game, helluva game”.

I am stunned.

I’ve just completely done a 180 on this thing.

Crabtree’s the complete asshole not Sherman (at least for this incident).

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**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2014, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/678677/286 "2014-01-23T03:25:00Z")

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> [@Omniscient](#):
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> 1. The last INT wasn’t on Kaep. The situation called for him to make a play and he almost did. If you watch that play, Sherman was flat out beat.

I’ve been meaning to check up on this and just now got the time.

Your analysis that he was “flat out beat” has got to be the most inaccurate description of a play I think I’ve ever seen written down.

This is the video I’m looking at from 0:18 to 0:24. They couldn’t have been more even/covered until Sherman slowed to leap and make the play.

> **[Sherman, Crabtree mic'd during NFC championship](https://www.nfl.com/news/sherman-crabtree-mic-d-during-nfc-championship-0ap2000000316756)**
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> Richard Sherman and Michael Crabtree were both wired for sound during Sunday's NFC Championship Game. You might be surprised by what the rivals said -- or didn't say.

Your football credibility just went down the toilet, LOL.

Why would you post something so stupid that is so easy for us to check up on?

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2014, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/678677/287 "2014-01-23T03:27:43Z")

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> [@RaftPeople](#):
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> Crabtree’s the complete asshole not Sherman (at least for this incident).

You’re completely ignoring the fact that they are both complete assholes.

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2014, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/678677/288 "2014-01-23T03:41:51Z")

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I’m sure they’re both glad just to be talked about. Aside from that discount daaa-ble check guy, the also-rans are almost completely vanished.

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**Author:** ![DKW](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dkw/32/3118_2.png) [@DKW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DKW)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2014, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/678677/289 "2014-01-23T03:57:45Z")

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Okay, the impression I got from _that_ one (and why was it the non-football fan who had to get the ball rolling on this, hmm? 🙂 ) was that for whatever reason, Sherman really, really really hates Crabtree.

Not the 49ers organization. Not receivers in general. Not the forward pass rules. Just that one guy.

And this after Crabtree _shoved him in the face_.

Maybe I’m just cynical after all the insults I’ve had to put up with in my life, but I’m getting a very strong “world’s smallest violin” vibe from this. Way I see it, if you talk trash and fail to back it up, and that failure knocks your team out of the Super Bowl, getting called out on it is the least of your concerns.

I mean, geez, it’s not like he dissed _Tim Tebow_ or anything. 😃

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2014, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/678677/290 "2014-01-23T04:55:46Z")

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On a more positive note, Seahawks fullback Derrick Coleman, the first legally deaf offensive player in the NFL, received this letter from a young fan:

[![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BegtVFWIYAAa7E2.jpg) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BegtVFWIYAAa7E2.jpg)

And responded with his own handwritten response:

[https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bemxw1JCMAAXcT6.jpg:large](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bemxw1JCMAAXcT6.jpg:large)

🙂

ETA: I really like his Duracell commercial:

[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZLNz93s5oM)

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2014, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/678677/291 "2014-01-23T05:49:35Z")

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> [@Mister\_Rik](#):
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> ETA: I really like his Duracell commercial:
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> [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZLNz93s5oM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZLNz93s5oM)

It’s incredibly hard not to root for a guy like that. Damn you! Just when I thought I have my rooting interests locked up with Manning versus Carroll and Sherman, you go and post this!

🙂

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**Author:** ![Dickerman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8baadc/32.png) [@Dickerman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dickerman)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2014, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/678677/292 "2014-01-23T06:45:54Z")

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The following presents other facets of Sherman: [NFL Football Highlights, Clips & Analysis | NFL.com](http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-presents/0ap2000000254372/NFL-Films-Presents-The-trash-talking-cornerback)

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**Author:** ![straight\_man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/straight_man/32/3027_2.png) [@straight\_man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/straight_man)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2014, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/678677/293 "2014-01-23T18:07:16Z")

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> [@Dickerman](#):
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> The following presents other facets of Sherman: [NFL Football Highlights, Clips & Analysis | NFL.com](http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-presents/0ap2000000254372/NFL-Films-Presents-The-trash-talking-cornerback)

The part where he goes anonymously asking members of the public who is the best cornerback in the NFL? Hilarious. And he takes it well when people say it isn’t him.

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**Author:** ![Dickerman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8baadc/32.png) [@Dickerman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dickerman)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2014, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/678677/294 "2014-01-31T06:36:10Z")

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> [@Mister\_Rik](#):
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> On a more positive note, Seahawks fullback Derrick Coleman, the first legally deaf offensive player in the NFL, received this letter from a young fan:
> 
> [https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BegtVFWIYAAa7E2.jpg](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BegtVFWIYAAa7E2.jpg)
> 
> And responded with his own handwritten response:
> 
> [https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bemxw1JCMAAXcT6.jpg:large](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bemxw1JCMAAXcT6.jpg:large)

And now those girls are going to the Super Bowl: [http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/seahawks-39-derrick-coleman-surprises-hearing-impaired-girls-131922672--abc-news-topstories.html](http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/seahawks-39-derrick-coleman-surprises-hearing-impaired-girls-131922672--abc-news-topstories.html)

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**Author:** ![kayT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayt/32/3633_2.png) [@kayT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayT)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2014, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/678677/295 "2014-01-31T13:01:44Z")

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Thanks for the Derrick Coleman stories; it’s so great to hear about such a wonderful human being. Actually two of them I guess as the little girl was pretty wonderful too.

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