# NFL Conference Championships **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [January 20, 2018, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/807074 "2018-01-20T21:25:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/807074/161 "2018-01-24T20:53:37Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > … Unless, of course, they start singing _You’ll Never Walk Alone_. Those guys, just step away from them. Agreed. Preferably at least to the other side of Stanley Park. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Enter\_the\_Flagon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Enter\_the\_Flagon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enter_the_Flagon)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/807074/162 "2018-01-24T22:15:28Z")
> [@Enter\_the\_Flagon](#): > > It’s true, Eagles fans are the worst by any measure. > [@russian\_heel](#): > > Quantify those “measures”? Hey, maybe you’re right. There must be some measures by which Eagles fans **aren’t** the worst, right? And we could save time by listing those, instead of the ways they **are** the worst, but it wouldn’t be as much fun. So let’s check out the Vast Anti-Eagles Fans Media Conspiracy for some clues: **Philadelphia Sports Fans Voted Worst in America by GQ Magazine** > **[Philadelphia Sports Fans Voted Worst in America by GQ Magazine](https://bleacherreport.com/articles/639238-philadelphia-sports-fans-voted-worst-in-american-by-gq-magazine)** > > "Yo Adrian! We did it!" That's right, Philadelphia, you certainly did. There is a long-standing perception in sports of the Philadelphia fans as nasty, vitriolic enemies of all that is good and decent... **MOST HATED FAN BASE: EAGLES** > **[Dan Snyder to Rowdy: The NFL's most hated people, places, things](https://www.si.com/nfl/2015/07/22/nfl-most-hated-dan-snyder-bill-belichick-percy-harvin)** > > As NFL Worst Week continues, the SI.com staff determines the most hated people, places and things around the league—not just Roger Goodell. **10 times Philadelphia fans were truly the worst** **[http://www.nbcsports.com/washington/washington-redskins/10-times-philadelphia-fans-were-truly-worst-philadelphia-eagles-philadelphia-phillies-philadelphia-flyers#slide-1](http://www.nbcsports.com/washington/washington-redskins/10-times-philadelphia-fans-were-truly-worst-philadelphia-eagles-philadelphia-phillies-philadelphia-flyers#slide-1)** We don’t have all day, though, so this quote will have to suffice: > [@](#): > > Over the years, Philadelphia fans have booed Santa Claus, their own star players and, most absurdly, the recipient of America’s very first hand transplant, whose crime was dribbling in a ceremonial first pitch—thrown with his freshly transplanted hand. Boooo! Admittedly, there are some things fans have cheered. Like Michael Irvin’s career-ending neck injury and a fan being tased on the outfield grass. Things reached their nadir last season, when Citizens Bank Park played host to arguably the most heinous incident in the history of sports: A drunken fan intentionally vomited on an 11-year-old girl. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/807074/163 "2018-01-24T23:03:31Z")
Well, that movie that Jennifer whatsername won an Oscar for portrayed the male character as an Eagles fan of a most pathetic stripe. Since then, I have come to view all Eagles fans as being like that. Always whining and trembling over the Seahawks, it would seem. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/807074/164 "2018-01-25T04:00:37Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Well, that movie that Jennifer whatsername won an Oscar for portrayed the male character as an Eagles fan of a most pathetic stripe. Since then, I have come to view all Eagles fans as being like that. Always whining and trembling over the Seahawks, it would seem. Watch _Invincible_. Damn good football movie, and generally an accurate representation of Philly fans. Yep, I saw Vince Papale play, back when. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/807074/165 "2018-01-25T04:06:06Z")
> [@Johnny\_Ace](#): > > Watch _Invincible_. Damn good football movie, and generally an accurate representation of Philly fans. > > Yep, I saw Vince Papale play, back when. You really liked it? I thought it was meh, like a Rudy wannabe movie but for the pros. Papale’s story is a good one, however. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/807074/166 "2018-01-25T04:46:06Z")
> [@Bullitt](#): > > You really liked it? I thought it was meh, like a Rudy wannabe movie but for the pros. Papale’s story is a good one, however. I liked the gridiron stuff, the POV of players on the field…and also the subplot involving Dick Vermeil. He was as much an underdog as Papale was. Greg Kinnear’s pretty good when he’s not doing over-the-top comedy. (I was an Eagles fan back then, mostly because of the underdog thing; same with the Pats when Pat the Patriot was on the helmet. I always hated the 'Boys and Vikes, though; it seemed every year they’d beat my Rams in the playoffs. Also, the America’s Team thing rubbed me completely the wrong way.) Finally, I’m a pushover for Elizabeth Banks, especially when she was that young. Cool character, too. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/807074/167 "2018-01-25T07:01:38Z")
> [@Johnny\_Ace](#): > > I liked the gridiron stuff, the POV of players on the field…and also the subplot involving Dick Vermeil. He was as much an underdog as Papale was. Greg Kinnear’s pretty good when he’s not doing over-the-top comedy. Okay, cool. > [@](#): > > (I was an Eagles fan back then, mostly because of the underdog thing; same with the Pats when Pat the Patriot was on the helmet. I always hated the 'Boys and Vikes, though; it seemed every year they’d beat my Rams in the playoffs. Also, the America’s Team thing rubbed me completely the wrong way.) Our stories are similar. In the 1970s my Rams kept finding a way to lose in the playoffs, to the Vikings and Cowboys. Take your pick. I lived and (mostly) died with them in Decembers and Januarys back then. I bled blue and gold. Then in Super Bowl XIV they’re actually beating the Steelers, leading at halftime, and after 3vquarters, before snatching defeat from the jaws of victory at the end. And then next year in Super Bowl XV, former LA Rams QB Ron Jaworski takes the Eagles to the dance, only to lose to — nay, to get crushed by — the Oakland Raiders. > [@](#): > > Finally, I’m a pushover for Elizabeth Banks, especially when she was that young. Cool character, too. Well, what red-blooded hetero male wouldn’t be? ---
**Author:** ![Fleetwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fleetwood/32/271_2.png) [@Fleetwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fleetwood)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/807074/168 "2018-01-25T13:29:53Z")
> [@Taber](#): > > To be fair, both Cassel and the Browns have done significantly worse without Bill. Bill’s Browns are the Baltimore Ravens. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/807074/169 "2018-01-25T14:15:37Z")
> [@Fleetwood](#): > > Bill’s Browns are the Baltimore Ravens… …who yes have won two Super Bowls, but not until five years after he left. Those Ravens championship teams are more Ozzie Newsome’s team than Bill Belichick’s. ---
**Author:** ![russian\_heel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f05b48/32.png) [@russian\_heel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/russian_heel)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/807074/170 "2018-01-25T23:11:25Z")
> [@Enter\_the\_Flagon](#): > > Hey, maybe you’re right. There must be some measures by which Eagles fans **aren’t** the worst, right? And we could save time by listing those, instead of the ways they **are** the worst, but it wouldn’t be as much fun. So let’s check out the Vast Anti-Eagles Fans Media Conspiracy for some clues: > **Philadelphia Sports Fans Voted Worst in America by GQ Magazine** > [Philadelphia Sports Fans Voted Worst in America by GQ Magazine | News, Scores, Highlights, Stats, and Rumors | Bleacher Report](http://bleacherreport.com/articles/639238-philadelphia-sports-fans-voted-worst-in-american-by-gq-magazine) > > **MOST HATED FAN BASE: EAGLES** > [NFL's Worst: Most hated people, places, things in league - Sports Illustrated](https://www.si.com/nfl/2015/07/23/nfl-most-hated-dan-snyder-bill-belichick-percy-harvin) > > **10 times Philadelphia fans were truly the worst** > **[http://www.nbcsports.com/washington/washington-redskins/10-times-philadelphia-fans-were-truly-worst-philadelphia-eagles-philadelphia-phillies-philadelphia-flyers#slide-1](http://www.nbcsports.com/washington/washington-redskins/10-times-philadelphia-fans-were-truly-worst-philadelphia-eagles-philadelphia-phillies-philadelphia-flyers#slide-1)** > > We don’t have all day, though, so this quote will have to suffice: This all sounds like a butt hurt Vikings fan. Those sore losers STILL haven’t stop whining and bellyaching about how poorly they were treated in Philadelphia just because we didn’t roll out the red carpet and kiss their ass when they came here with their effeminate “Skol” chant. If Minnesota had won, wouldn’t have heard boo about it. ---
**Author:** ![russian\_heel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f05b48/32.png) [@russian\_heel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/russian_heel)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/807074/171 "2018-01-25T23:39:48Z")
> [@Enter\_the\_Flagon](#): > > Hey, maybe you’re right. There must be some measures by which Eagles fans **aren’t** the worst, right? And we could save time by listing those, instead of the ways they **are** the worst, but it wouldn’t be as much fun. So let’s check out the Vast Anti-Eagles Fans Media Conspiracy for some clues: > > **Philadelphia Sports Fans Voted Worst in America by GQ Magazine** > > [Philadelphia Sports Fans Voted Worst in America by GQ Magazine | News, Scores, Highlights, Stats, and Rumors | Bleacher Report](http://bleacherreport.com/articles/639238-philadelphia-sports-fans-voted-worst-in-american-by-gq-magazine) > > **MOST HATED FAN BASE: EAGLES** > > [NFL's Worst: Most hated people, places, things in league - Sports Illustrated](https://www.si.com/nfl/2015/07/23/nfl-most-hated-dan-snyder-bill-belichick-percy-harvin) > > **10 times Philadelphia fans were truly the worst** > > **[http://www.nbcsports.com/washington/washington-redskins/10-times-philadelphia-fans-were-truly-worst-philadelphia-eagles-philadelphia-phillies-philadelphia-flyers#slide-1](http://www.nbcsports.com/washington/washington-redskins/10-times-philadelphia-fans-were-truly-worst-philadelphia-eagles-philadelphia-phillies-philadelphia-flyers#slide-1)** > > We don’t have all day, though, so this quote will have to suffice: Zzzzzzzzzz. You forgot the jail cell in our stadium. Gee we threw snowballs at some drunk in a Santa costume 50 years ago. NEVER heard THAT one before. Michael Irvin has gone on record saying he didn’t blame the fans for what they did since he acted like such a jackass on the field ( besides the fans were booing Deion Sanders who was doing some sort of weird dance). A bunch of surveys by some nitwit sportswriters looking to jump on the anti-Philly bandwagon isn’t even quantifiable evidence. You want a “measure”? Heres one: > You simply can’t say Philadelphia fans are the worst by “any measure” when there’s 10 cities with higher arrest records per game. I mean three teams are over 20 and Philly is 3.2? Not even close enough for a margin of error. Anyone that reads that and still says Philly is the worst is clearly an imbecile or just being a troll. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![russian\_heel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f05b48/32.png) [@russian\_heel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/russian_heel)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/807074/172 "2018-01-26T02:46:02Z")
Stay classy Vikings fans! https://www.facebook.com/plugins/video.php?height=400&width=400&href=https://www.facebook.com/EaglesTailgateTeam/videos/894256897415731/ Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/807074/173 "2018-01-26T06:24:01Z")
> [@russian\_heel](#): > > This all sounds like a butt hurt Vikings fan. Those sore losers STILL haven’t stop whining and bellyaching about how poorly they were treated in Philadelphia just because we didn’t roll out the red carpet and kiss their ass when they came here with their effeminate “Skol” chant. If Minnesota had won, wouldn’t have heard boo about it. Someone dressed Rocky in Vikings gear. They should be happy they made it out alive. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/807074/174 "2018-01-26T12:48:28Z")
[Some Eagles fans donate to Vikings’ head coach Mike Zimmer’s charity as apology for other Philly fans.](https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/eagles/2018/01/25/eagles-fans-apologize-bad-behavior-donate-vikings-mike-zimmer-foundation/1064649001/) See, they’re not all bad. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/807074/175 "2018-01-26T14:57:22Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > [Some Eagles fans donate to Vikings’ head coach Mike Zimmer’s charity as apology for other Philly fans.](https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/eagles/2018/01/25/eagles-fans-apologize-bad-behavior-donate-vikings-mike-zimmer-foundation/1064649001/) See, they’re not all bad. From the article ( **bolding** mine): > [@](#): > > Earlier this season, Buffalo Bills fans donated more than **$200,000** to Cincinnati Bengals quarterback Andy Dalton’s foundation after the Bengals helped Buffalo squeak into the playoffs. Bengals fans later donated to Jacksonville Jaguars quarterback Blake Bortles’ foundation as a thank you for beating their AFC North rival, the Pittsburgh Steelers. > [@](#): > > Minnesota fans are also no strangers to the trend. Over the past few weeks, they’ve donated more than _$220,000_ to a foundation created by New Orleans Saints punter Thomas Morstead, who played through an injury in the divisional round and was among the first players to return to the field for a meaningless extra-point attempt at the end of the game between the two teams. > [@](#): > > Philadelphia Eagles fans have donated more than **$10,000** to Minnesota Vikings coach Mike Zimmer’s foundation as a means of apologizing for their brethren’s behavior at last weekend’s NFC Championship Game. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/807074/176 "2018-01-26T16:22:44Z")
Baby steps. After all, these are Eagles fans we’re talking about. ---
**Author:** ![Taber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ac91a4/32.png) [@Taber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taber)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/807074/177 "2018-01-26T18:13:50Z")
> [@Fleetwood](#): > > Bill’s Browns are the Baltimore Ravens. Oh wow, I didn’t realize the move was that recent, that does poke a hole in my point. It looks like they were garbage rising to mediocre over 4 years after he left, then won the superbowl. ---
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/807074/178 "2018-01-26T18:15:43Z")
> [@russian\_heel](#): > > Zzzzzzzzzz. You forgot the jail cell in our stadium. Gee we threw snowballs at some drunk in a Santa costume 50 years ago. NEVER heard THAT one before. > > Michael Irvin has gone on record saying he didn’t blame the fans for what they did since he acted like such a jackass on the field ( besides the fans were booing Deion Sanders who was doing some sort of weird dance). > > A bunch of surveys by some nitwit sportswriters looking to jump on the anti-Philly bandwagon isn’t even quantifiable evidence. > > You want a “measure”? Heres one: > > [x.com](https://twitter.com/mikeclaynfl/status/955520729612767234) > > You simply can’t say Philadelphia fans are the worst by “any measure” when there’s 10 cities with higher arrest records per game. I mean three teams are over 20 and Philly is 3.2? Not even close enough for a margin of error. Anyone that reads that and still says Philly is the worst is clearly an imbecile or just being a troll. > Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk With respect, all that says is that in Philadelphia, bad behavior isn’t even punished. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![russian\_heel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f05b48/32.png) [@russian\_heel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/russian_heel)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/807074/179 "2018-01-26T19:07:39Z")
> [@DSYoungEsq](#): > > With respect, all that says is that in Philadelphia, bad behavior isn’t even punished. :dubious: 20+ arrests per game v 3.2. Maybe MetLife Stadium needs a jail cell. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/807074/180 "2018-01-26T21:47:32Z")
> [@DSYoungEsq](#): > > With respect, all that says is that in Philadelphia, bad behavior isn’t even punished. :dubious: Or, being an asshole isn’t something considered worthy of arrest. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/807074.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-conference-championships/807074.md?page=10)