# NFL Draft 2008 - Let's make a mock-ery. **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 17, 2008, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2008-lets-make-a-mock-ery/445768 "2008-04-17T19:26:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2008-lets-make-a-mock-ery/445768/1 "2008-04-17T19:26:19Z")
Let’s see what the greatest football minds of the SDMB can do when the combine their powers to conduct a mock draft for the 2008 NFL Draft. I’d like the mock draft to be interactive, with each poster being able to pick for whichever team is on the board at any given time. RULES: A poster must make the pick of the team thats up to draft, not a later team. No poster can make 2 picks in a row. With each pick you make, please include the team making the pick, the name of the player, that player’s position, and school the player attended. And, if possible, I’d love a brief description of the reason for the pick. Please don’t make ridiculous picks or picks to screw with a rival team or so a player falls to your team, because they will throw off the whole draft. If two (or more) posters make a pick for the same team, the first post wins and the player picked second is still on the market. If we skip a pick or make a mistake with a player being chosen twice, make a change yourself, or I can hopefully straighten it out. Since there are no assigned teams, trading up or down is discouraged, but if it can be fairly worked out, have at it. Any questions or issues arise, we can figure it out as we go. It’s kind of an experiment. Feel free to jump in with any suggestions. Here’s the draft order: ROUND ONE 1 (1) Miami Dolphins 2 (2) St. Louis Rams 3 (3) Atlanta Falcons 4 (4) Oakland Raiders 5 (5) Kansas City Chiefs 6 (6) New York Jets 7 (7) New England Patriots (From 49ers) 8 (8) Baltimore Ravens 9 (9) Cincinnati Bengals 10 (10) New Orleans Saints 11 (11) Buffalo Bills 12 (12) Denver Broncos 13 (13) Carolina Panthers 14 (14) Chicago Bears 15 (15) Detroit Lions 16 (16) Arizona Cardinals 17 (17) Minnesota Vikings 18 (18) Houston Texans 19 (19) Philadelphia Eagles 20 (20) Tampa Bay Buccaneers 21 (21) Washington Redskins 22 (22) Dallas Cowboys (From Browns) 23 (23) Pittsburgh Steelers 24 (24) Tennessee Titans 25 (25) Seattle Seahawks 26 (26) Jacksonville Jaguars 27 (27) San Diego Chargers 28 (28) Dallas Cowboys 29 (29) San Francisco 49ers (From Colts) 30 (30) Green Bay Packers 31 (31) New York Giants ROUND 2 1 (32) Miami Dolphins 2 (33) St. Louis Rams 3 (34) Atlanta Falcons (From Raiders) 4 (35) Kansas City Chiefs 5 (36) New York Jets 6 (37) Atlanta Falcons 7 (38) Baltimore Ravens 8 (39) San Francisco 49ers 9 (40) New Orleans Saints 10 (41) Buffalo Bills 11 (42) Denver Broncos 12 (43) Carolina Panthers 13 (44) Chicago Bears 14 (45) Detroit Lions 15 (46) Cincinnati Bengals 16 (47) Minnesota Vikings 17 (48) Atlanta Falcons (From Texans) 18 (49) Philadelphia Eagles 19 (50) Arizona Cardinals 20 (51) Washington Redskins 21 (52) Tampa Bay Buccaneers 22 (53) Pittsburgh Steelers 23 (54) Tennessee Titans 24 (55) Seattle Seahawks 25 (56) Green Bay Packers (From Browns) 26 (57) Miami Dolphins (From Chargers) 27 (58) Jacksonville Jaguars 28 (59) Indianapolis Colts 29 (60) Green Bay Packers 30 (61) Dallas Cowboys 31 (62) New England Patriots 32 (63) New York Giants ROUND 3 1 (64) Miami Dolphins 2 (65) St. Louis Rams 3 (66) Kansas City Chiefs 4 (67) Carolina Panthers (From Jets) 5 (68) Atlanta Falcons 6 (69) New England Patriots (From Raiders) 7 (70) Chicago Bears (From 49ers) 8 (71) Jacksonville Jaguars (From Ravens through Bills) 9 (72) Buffalo Bills 10 (73) Minnesota Vikings (From Broncos) 11 (74) Carolina Panthers 12 (75) San Francisco 49ers (From Bears) 13 (76) Detroit Lions 14 (77) Cincinnati Bengals 15 (78) New Orleans Saints 16 (79) Houston Texans 17 (80) Philadelphia Eagles 18 (81) Arizona Cardinals 19 (82) Minnesota Vikings 20 (83) Tampa Bay Buccaneers 21 (84) Washington Redskins 22 (85) Tennessee Titans 23 (86) Seattle Seahawks 24 (87) Detroit Lions (From Browns) 25 (88) Pittsburgh Steelers 26 (89) Jacksonville Jaguars 27 (90) Chicago Bears (From Chargers) 28 (91) Green Bay Packers 29 (92) Dallas Cowboys 30 (93) Indianapolis Colts 31 (94) New England Patriots 32 (95) New York Giants 33 (96) Washington Redskins (Compensatory selection) 34 (97) Cincinnati Bengals (Compensatory selection) 35 (98) Atlanta Falcons (Compensatory selection) 36 (99) Baltimore Ravens (Compensatory selection) I, or anyone who wishes to, can update the list as we progress. If the draft order is wrong (it shouldn’t be) or there are trades, we can change it. Without further ado, the Miami Dolphins are on the clock: **Miami Dolphins** The Dolphins would love to trade down with this pick, but there doesn’t seem to be many suitors. The Saints have expressed an interest, but not for the first pick. The latest rumors are that the Dolphins are hoping to get a contract done with Jake Long at a decent price. I think they’ll be able to work something out. A 1-15 team, the Dolphins need help everywhere. And it all starts with a good O Line. Miami Dolphins select **Jake Long,** OT, Michigan. Who wants to go next? ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2008-lets-make-a-mock-ery/445768/2 "2008-04-17T19:33:08Z")
2nd Pick - St Louis Rams **DT - Glenn Dorsey, LSU** The Rams need to look at the defense and I think Dorsey would make a greater impact than the next likeliest pick, Chris Long. No chance they go QB or RB so that limits the number of options. As always a trade would be a possibility, and maybe one of the teams in the top 10 will do it if they are in love with Dorsey, but I doubt it. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2008-lets-make-a-mock-ery/445768/3 "2008-04-17T19:42:21Z")
Atlanta Falcons The Falcons are looking for a franchise quarterback to replace Vick, but is #3 too early for Matt Ryan? Personally, hell yes, I think it is. Unfortunately, those bastard Rams took the guy the Falcons would really want. That leaves them with a decision between Chris Long, Sedrick Ellis and maybe Vernon Gholston. After the Vick debacle, the Falcons will look for a high integrity player with a lot of effort. And John Abraham isn’t getting any younger. Atlanta Falcons select **Chris Long** , DE, Virginia. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2008-lets-make-a-mock-ery/445768/4 "2008-04-17T19:47:43Z")
Ideally we’d probably be best if we made people wait like 4 picks before making another one just to get as many people involved as possible, or else you and I will just tag team this bitch. But, since I’m posting I might as well go again. It’s your thread afterall! 4 - Oakland Raiders **RB - Darren McFadden, Arkansas** For the record I think this is a _terrible_ pick and Sedrick Eliis would make infinitely more sense here, but this is Al Davis we are talking about. He loves his playmakers and he’ll be drooling over McFadden. They’ll make this pick in approximately .06 seconds. McFadden will be the pick here. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2008-lets-make-a-mock-ery/445768/5 "2008-04-17T19:58:02Z")
[QUOTE=Omniscient] Ideally we’d probably be best if we made people wait like 4 picks before making another one just to get as many people involved as possible, or else you and I will just tag team this bitch. [/QUOTE] I do want more people involved in making the picks, especially if they’re a fan of the team picking. But rather than a strict rule, I think we can rely on poster’s own judgment to wait for picks. So, let’s get someone else here to make a pick. ---
**Author:** ![CapnPitt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/edb3f5/32.png) [@CapnPitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CapnPitt)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2008-lets-make-a-mock-ery/445768/6 "2008-04-17T20:27:10Z")
The KC Chiefs need offensive line help. However, Brodie Croyle and Damon Huard are a two-headed monster of mediocrity. Surprised that the Falcons, passed on him, the Chiefs select: 4 - KC Chiefs \*\*QB Matt Ryan (\*\*Boston College) ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2008-lets-make-a-mock-ery/445768/7 "2008-04-17T22:17:23Z")
5 - New York Jets **DE/LB Vernon Gholston** (Ohio State University) Prototypical 3-4 pass rushing tweener with excellent speed and an all-day motor. Gotta agree that McFadden to the Raiders is about the worst possible pick they could make… ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2008-lets-make-a-mock-ery/445768/8 "2008-04-17T22:31:26Z")
Pssst… you guys got your numbers wrong. [QUOTE=Really Not All That Bright] …and an all-day motor. [/QUOTE] You’ve clearly never seem him play, that’s about as inaccurate a description as you can possibly make. He disappears for entire games. 1. New England Patriots **DT - Sedrick Ellis, DT** The Pats will absolutely do anything to trade out of this pick, but assuming they don’t they will take the best player available, and that’s Ellis. Their pressing need is LB but I just don’t think the Pats will reach for Mayo or Rivers here, in the real world they will probably swap spots with Cincy and move back a few spots. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2008-lets-make-a-mock-ery/445768/9 "2008-04-17T22:52:50Z")
[QUOTE=Omniscient] You’ve clearly never seem him play, that’s about as inaccurate a description as you can possibly make. He disappears for entire games. [/QUOTE] Only two or three times. I was going off John Clayton’s shtick there. By the way, I call dibs on the Bucs’ pick 🙂 (20) ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2008-lets-make-a-mock-ery/445768/10 "2008-04-17T23:01:16Z")
The Ravens need some youth in the secondary. Leodis McKelvin is the pick here. He’ll get brought in slowly and should move in to cover the impending injury to one of the starting cornerbacks. ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2008, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2008-lets-make-a-mock-ery/445768/11 "2008-04-18T00:16:21Z")
The Bengals desperately need a defense, and particularly help in their front seven. With Gholston and Ellis gone, they pick up **9. LB Keith Rivers (USC)** ---
**Author:** ![CapnPitt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/edb3f5/32.png) [@CapnPitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CapnPitt)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2008, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2008-lets-make-a-mock-ery/445768/12 "2008-04-18T00:24:42Z")
[QUOTE=Omniscient] Pssst… you guys got your numbers wrong. [/QUOTE] My bad! ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2008, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2008-lets-make-a-mock-ery/445768/13 "2008-04-18T01:40:10Z")
New Orleans Saints The rumor is that the Saints want to move up to grab Dorsey (or possibly Ellis or Long). And with the way this mock is going, you can see why. There are plenty of guys left, but the players to covet are gone. And they did sign a couple of CB’s (Glenn who I think went to high school with Noah) and Randall Gay, so taking a CB (Rodgers-Cromartie?) might not be high on their list. This is a damn tough pick. Do they go for pass rusher Derrick Harvey? Is Brandon Albert a huge reach? Will Stewart or Mendenhall be really poor value? How about Ryan Clady, they could use an OT. Damn, I don’t know who to go with. I’ve had this post on preview for 20 minutes, not being able to pull the trigger on a guy. They’d love to trade up with the Patsy’s and grab Ellis, but its too late. Screw it. New Orleans Saints select Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB, Tennessee St. Here’s an update: ROUND ONE 1 (1) Miami Dolphins – Jake Long, OT, Michigan 2 (2) St. Louis Rams – Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU 3 (3) Atlanta Falcons – Chris Long, DE, Virginia 4 (4) Oakland Raiders – Darren McFadden, RB, Arkansas 5 (5) Kansas City Chiefs – Matt Ryan, QB, Boston College 6 (6) New York Jets – Vernon Gholston, DE/OLB, Ohio State 7 (7) New England Patriots (From 49ers) – Sedrick Ellis, DT, USC 8 (8) Baltimore Ravens – Leodis McKelvin, CB, Troy 9 (9) Cincinnati Bengals – Keith Rivers, LB, USC 10 (10) New Orleans Saints – Dominique Rodgers Cromartie, CB, Tennessee St. 11 (11) Buffalo Bills 12 (12) Denver Broncos 13 (13) Carolina Panthers 14 (14) Chicago Bears 15 (15) Detroit Lions 16 (16) Arizona Cardinals 17 (17) Minnesota Vikings 18 (18) Houston Texans 19 (19) Philadelphia Eagles 20 (20) Tampa Bay Buccaneers 21 (21) Washington Redskins 22 (22) Dallas Cowboys (From Browns) 23 (23) Pittsburgh Steelers 24 (24) Tennessee Titans 25 (25) Seattle Seahawks 26 (26) Jacksonville Jaguars 27 (27) San Diego Chargers 28 (28) Dallas Cowboys 29 (29) San Francisco 49ers (From Colts) 30 (30) Green Bay Packers 31 (31) New York Giants ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2008, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2008-lets-make-a-mock-ery/445768/14 "2008-04-18T01:41:33Z")
The Saints, always looking for help to shore up a defense that allows as many yards as the offense produces, need help at corner, thanks to some bad free agent signings. (Randall Gay? Nick Harper?) With Aquib Talib falling off everyone’s first-round board due a case of the Ricky Williams, the Saints use the 10th pick to acquire the consistent-yet-boring Mike Jenkins, becoming not only the first player from South Florida to be drafted in the first round, but only the second to be drafted at all. ETA: never mind, **Hamlet** beat me to it. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2008, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2008-lets-make-a-mock-ery/445768/15 "2008-04-18T01:54:43Z")
I don’t have a pick to offer for the Bills, but I would like to mention that they have been the Reachy McReachalots in the last few drafts. They’ve gotten good players, but for terrible “draft value”. The safety they took in the first was good but would have still been there for half a round, and the DT they took in the first may have been there in the third. I could be wrong about the safety but I was all over researching DTs the year they way reached on him. He’s good, but terrible draft value. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2008, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2008-lets-make-a-mock-ery/445768/16 "2008-04-18T01:56:42Z")
No, you’re correct - people said the same thing when they picked Whitner eighth two years ago. And I’d love to fill in and say which guy my team will pick this year - but I absolutely don’t know. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2008, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2008-lets-make-a-mock-ery/445768/17 "2008-04-18T01:56:43Z")
[QUOTE=Really Not All That Bright] ETA: never mind, **Hamlet** beat me to it. [/QUOTE] The Bills eagerly await your thoughts. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2008, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2008-lets-make-a-mock-ery/445768/18 "2008-04-18T01:58:07Z")
The safety, Donte Whitner, turned out to be pretty good… arguably the best player on the team last season, in fact. They could have gotten him later, but as Bill Walsh used to say, “it’s not where you draft them, it’s how they play.” ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2008, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2008-lets-make-a-mock-ery/445768/19 "2008-04-18T02:03:55Z")
Is there a realistic wideout at this spot in the draft? The Bills are pretty good at a lot of positions (but great at few), and I think they have to go offense. They seem content with their QB options and they’re definitely set with Lynch at RB. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2008, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2008-lets-make-a-mock-ery/445768/20 "2008-04-18T02:05:42Z")
[QUOTE=Hamlet] The Bills eagerly await your thoughts. [/QUOTE] What do you get the team who needs everything? A big receiver- and continuing the reach theme, the Bills draft **Limas Sweed, WR (Texas)** [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2008-lets-make-a-mock-ery/445768.md?page=2)