# NFL Draft 2012

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [April 13, 2012, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2012/618666 "2012-04-13T15:35:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2012, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2012/618666/21 "2012-04-26T13:01:21Z")

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I’ve also added to the list of “My Guys”:

**Mike Martin** , NT/DT, Michigan - he’s short, but other than that, he’s got a lot of what you want in a D lineman: production, non-stop motor, and ability to penetrate. Take him in the third round.

**Dennis Kelly** , OT, Purdue - more of a finesse pass protector, he needs to bulk up and get stronger, but he’s got the length (6’ 8") and room to grow. He’s a try hard, 3 year starter who has the upside to be a starting tackle in the pro’s. Likely won’t go until the 6th or 7th round, so he’s worth a shot as backup.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2012, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2012/618666/22 "2012-04-26T13:12:54Z")

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And my list of “Your Guys”:

**Ryan Tannehill** , QB, Texas A & M - How he is considered a top 5 prospect is beyond me. Grabbing him in the first round is pure desperation.

**Janoris Jenkins** , CB, North Alabama - 4 kids by 3 different women and he can’t stop smoking pot. What’s not to like?

**Justin Blackmon** , WR, Oklahoma State - I like his floor and he can find a place in the NFL, but he’s not a top 10 player. Late first round is good value though.

**Kendall Wright** , WR, Baylor - Not a first rounder. Too small, too undisciplined, and only does one thing well.

**Mike Adams** , OT, Ohio State - too stiff, will get beat by speed/tenacious rushers, and spotty attitude. Another who shouldn’t be in the discussion in the first round.

**Dontari Poe** , DT, Memphis - Couldn’t produce against poor competition, but looks really good in shorts. No thanks.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2012, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2012/618666/23 "2012-04-26T13:14:41Z")

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And, to top it off, the list of favorite named prospects:

**Foswhitt Whittaker** , RB, Texas  
**Whitney Mercilus** , DE/OLB, Illinois  
**Jerel Worthy** , DT, Michigan State  
**James Brown** , OG, Troy  
**Bryan Anger** , P, California  
**Nick Toon** , WR, Wisconsin  
**Eddie Pleasant** , SS, Oregon

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**Author:** ![Cumbrian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce7236/32.png) [@Cumbrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cumbrian)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2012, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2012/618666/24 "2012-04-26T13:21:16Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> And, to top it off, the list of favorite named prospects:
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> **Foswhitt Whittaker** , RB, Texas  
> **Whitney Mercilus** , DE/OLB, Illinois  
> **Jerel Worthy** , DT, Michigan State  
> **James Brown** , OG, Troy  
> **Bryan Anger** , P, California  
> **Nick Toon** , WR, Wisconsin  
> **Eddie Pleasant** , SS, Oregon

Mine are:

Dajohn Harris\*  
Ishmaa’ily Kitchen\*\*  
Whitney Mercilus\*\*\*  
Moe Petrus\*\*\*\*  
Cyhl Quarles\*\*\*\*\*  
and  
Rokevious Watkins\*\*\*\*\*\*

\*Not just John. “Da”John. You can presumably find him In Da Club.  
\*\*I don’t know about you but I would look to install an Ishmaa’ily Kitchen if I could afford one. I suspect it is done out in Arabesque marble and comes complete with matching tagine.  
\*\*\*This guy has missed his calling – he should probably be helping his brother “Ming The” rule Mongo and fight off Flash Gordon (himself erstwhile of the NY Jets). How long until he acquires the nickname, Ming?  
\*\*\*\*I think this could be a phonetic for ordering an expensive bottle of red wine.  
\*\*\*\*\*I don’t know what is going on here. I assume this is pronounced “Kyle”.  
\*\*\*\*\*\*Rokevious? Rokevious?! How do people come up with these names?

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2012, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2012/618666/25 "2012-04-26T13:51:01Z")

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My Name Guys:  
Alameda Te’amu, DT, Washington  
Hebron Fangupo, DT, Brigham Young  
Amini Silatolu, OG, Midwestern State  
Kelechi Osemele, OG, Iowa State  
Senio Kelemete, OG, Washington  
Rokevius Watkins, OG, South Carolina  
Nick Toon, WR, Wisconsin

The “name” of this draft has to be Brandon. I count eight guys named Brandon just on my list ~150 players long; I noticed a few more on the deep boards.

As for what I want from my 49ers.

Top Needs:  
Right guard, wide receiver, defensive line depth, safety

In the first round, I want them to trade up to draft a star, my top choice is Coby Fleener. (If GM Trent Baalke likes some other prospect, I’ll decide when it happens if I like the move.) I that doesn’t happen, just pick a solid right guard at #30, one of Silatolu, Zeitler, or Konz should be available. If that happens, I want many offensive skill players drafted in the middle rounds.  
If the 49ers trade down from #30, I would expect to see the resulting extra draft picks re-packaged and try to get three 2nd Round selections. I would be surprised if we have seven new 49ers by Sunday, I expect more like four or five.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2012, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2012/618666/26 "2012-04-26T14:16:13Z")

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Here’s my list of 1st round guys that I’d love to have in a Bears uniform.

Stephon Gilmore  
Chandler Jones  
David DeCastro  
Michael Floyd  
Luke Kuechly  
Mark Barron  
Dontari Poe

Here’s my list of guys who I wouldn’t touch with a 10 foot pole.

Mike Adams  
Janoris Jenkins  
Dre Kirkpatrick  
Kendall Wright  
Courtney Upshaw  
Shae McClellin  
Doug Martin  
Dont’a Hightower  
Nick Perry  
Bruce Irvin  
Dwayne Allen

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2012, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2012/618666/27 "2012-04-26T17:11:23Z")

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My one crazy prediction, Doug Martin has a better career than Trent Richardson.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2012, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2012/618666/28 "2012-04-26T17:28:13Z")

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> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#):
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> My one crazy prediction, Doug Martin has a better career than Trent Richardson.

I agree. If Trent Richardson goes down with a career ending injury in Week 6 of his rookie year, I can see Martin outperforming Richardson. Outside of that, I just don’t see it.

Martin is, to me, too slow, not elusive enough, and feasted on bad defensive teams. He’s a bowling ball type back like MJD, but without MJD’s speed, moves, or explosiveness.

Meanwhile, I think Trent Richardson, if he avoids injury of course, will be a Pro Bowler. If they have Pro Bowls, which they won’t any more, so I guess I’ll say he’ll be an All Pro.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2012, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2012/618666/29 "2012-04-26T18:20:21Z")

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I’ve been warming myself up to the idea of Richardson because, well, who else is there?

My concerns have always been about doubting the value of a top 5 RB rather than whether he’ll be good. He seems like the perfect AFC north back. Pair him with a monster RT and the Browns can at least have an offensive identity.

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**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2012, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2012/618666/30 "2012-04-26T18:34:17Z")

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> [@Cumbrian](#):
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> \*\*\*\*\*\*Rokevious? Rokevious?! How do people come up with these names?

You should see some of the names my girlfriend (the principal) and my brother (the cop) have come across. Aquanetta, Lemonjello, Orangejello and a few Le-a’s (that’s Ledasha) top the list.

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**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2012, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2012/618666/31 "2012-04-26T18:37:25Z")

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> [@kidchameleon](#):
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> You should see some of the names my girlfriend (the principal) and my brother (the cop) have come across. Aquanetta, Lemonjello, Orangejello and a few Le-a’s (that’s Ledasha) top the list.

Oh yeah? What about Nosmo King, do they know him?

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**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2012, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2012/618666/32 "2012-04-26T18:38:58Z")

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> [@MOIDALIZE](#):
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> Oh yeah? What about Nosmo King, do they know him?

Heh, that would be a good one.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2012, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2012/618666/33 "2012-04-26T19:27:38Z")

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Yapping about TB moving to 3 for Richardson. Okay with me - trade Kahlil to Buffalo and take Floyd, get extra second and third.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2012, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2012/618666/34 "2012-04-26T19:34:48Z")

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> [@MOIDALIZE](#):
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> Oh yeah? What about Nosmo King, do they know him?

Any relation to Sofa King? 'Cause his prices are Sofa King low.

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**Author:** ![brickbacon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@brickbacon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brickbacon)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2012, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2012/618666/35 "2012-04-26T22:34:36Z")

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Cute [interview](http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=7858996) with Justin Blackmon. Seems like a really good guy. Longer interview [here](http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=7023005).

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**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2012, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2012/618666/36 "2012-04-26T22:45:43Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> I’ve been warming myself up to the idea of Richardson because, well, who else is there?
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> My concerns have always been about doubting the value of a top 5 RB rather than whether he’ll be good. He seems like the perfect AFC north back. Pair him with a monster RT and the Browns can at least have an offensive identity.

I was thinking about it today, and I think this would be my approach were I Holmgren.

1. Take Richardson at 4 (assuming he’s there)
2. Take 2-3 WRs or TEs in rounds 2-7
3. Trade out of 22, getting a first-rounder next year. A 1 and 2, both next year, would be acceptable.

They already have a zillion picks this year, so they’ll have plenty of young bodies coming in. What they need to do is figure out the QB position. With a full offseason, Richardson and hopefully another rookie weapon, McCoy has a completely fair shot. If he steps up, well and good. If not, then you have two first-round picks next year, and you look trade up to take the best QB in the draft, Barkley or whomever.

IMO Tannehill or Weeden just keeps them on the mediocre train.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2012, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2012/618666/37 "2012-04-26T22:47:08Z")

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Agreed, I’m ready to put QB off for next year, because overdrafting a QB doesn’t make them great. Not much point for Tannehill or Weeden unless they fall pretty far and become worth a gamble without much of a commitment.

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2012, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2012/618666/38 "2012-04-26T22:51:27Z")

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Just read an article where Jim Brown disses Richardson as, “ordinary.”

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2012, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2012/618666/39 "2012-04-26T22:53:11Z")

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I’m sure he’s just worried Richardson is going to make a run for being the best NFL player of all time and upstage him.

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**Author:** ![President\_Johnny\_Gentle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5f9b8f/32.png) [@President\_Johnny\_Gentle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/President_Johnny_Gentle)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2012, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2012/618666/40 "2012-04-26T23:04:55Z")

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ESPN reporting Vikings and Browns have swapped spots.

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