# NFL Draft 2013 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 9, 2013, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2013/655234 "2013-04-09T16:07:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 23
**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2013, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2013/655234/441 "2013-04-27T18:44:43Z")
> [@ZebraShaSha](#): > > Then you look at Cleveland Browns, and they’ve added Barkevious Mingo and a tiny CB… But even their strategy makes sense. They are absolutely not going to get someone good enough in this draft to change their fate in 2013–they aren’t winning this season no matter what. And in a draft that is loaded with depth but not necessarily stars, it makes sense to punt on this draft and load up next season with ammunition to make a move to get a true impact player. It’s a risk, but they seem to be the only one taking that risk, which is a big plus too. It’s always a good idea to evaluate a strategy against what everyone else is doing. That’s how you take advantage of market inefficiencies. ---
**Author:** ![ZebraShaSha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/eada6e/32.png) [@ZebraShaSha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZebraShaSha)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2013, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2013/655234/442 "2013-04-27T18:45:00Z")
Actually, looking into it more, all the teams with horrible management seemed to have messed up this draft, like always, but their idiocy is hidden by the crazy amount of talent available. My favorite is Carolina: they just drafted 2 DT’s in 2011. They have holes all over the roster, pressing needs everywhere - horrible secondary, terrible safeties, few offensive weapons, etc. So what do they do? Draft 2 DT’s AGAIN and an OG with a 5th round grade in the 3rd. It’s not as obviously bad as years past, but it’s still pretty atrocious, considering how talented the draft is, especially at safety. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2013, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2013/655234/443 "2013-04-27T18:47:47Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > Just the Bills, Jets and Browns. > [@ZebraShaSha](#): > > My favorite is Carolina: they just drafted 2 DT’s in 2011. They have holes all over the roster, pressing needs everywhere - horrible secondary, terrible safeties, few offensive weapons, etc. So what do they do? Draft 2 DT’s AGAIN and an OG with a 5th round grade in the 3rd. It’s not as obviously bad as years past, but it’s still pretty atrocious, considering how talented the draft is, especially at safety. I’m going to have to ask you guys to shut up because I have places to go today and it’s too early and pretty outside for me to start drinking. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2013, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2013/655234/444 "2013-04-27T18:48:21Z")
> [@ZebraShaSha](#): > > Actually, looking into it more, all the teams with horrible management seemed to have messed up this draft, like always, but their idiocy is hidden by the crazy amount of talent available. My favorite is Carolina: they just drafted 2 DT’s in 2011. They have holes all over the roster, pressing needs everywhere - horrible secondary, terrible safeties, few offensive weapons, etc. So what do they do? Draft 2 DT’s AGAIN and an OG with a 5th round grade in the 3rd. It’s not as obviously bad as years past, but it’s still pretty atrocious, considering how talented the draft is, especially at safety. Thanks, don’t know how I left the Panthers off my list of shittily run teams. The Rams added another guy that I liked, McGee. He was on my list of potential CBs for the Bears. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2013, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2013/655234/445 "2013-04-27T18:49:31Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > I’m going to have to ask you guys to shut up because I have places to go today and it’s too early and pretty outside for me to start drinking. Don’t worry, Bed Bath and Beyond and Home Depot are a blast when drunk. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2013, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2013/655234/446 "2013-04-27T18:50:21Z")
Dammit. Kinda hoping AJ Klein would go to the Packers. ---
**Author:** ![ZebraShaSha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/eada6e/32.png) [@ZebraShaSha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZebraShaSha)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2013, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2013/655234/447 "2013-04-27T18:50:38Z")
> [@Jules\_Andre](#): > > But even their strategy makes sense. They are absolutely not going to get someone good enough in this draft to change their fate in 2013–they aren’t winning this season no matter what. > > And in a draft that is loaded with depth but not necessarily stars, it makes sense to punt on this draft and load up next season with ammunition to make a move to get a true impact player. It’s a risk, but they seem to be the only one taking that risk, which is a big plus too. It’s always a good idea to evaluate a strategy against what everyone else is doing. That’s how you take advantage of market inefficiencies. I could see that… but isn’t this draft perfect for them, in that they can build solid, starting depth everywhere, then try for a future star later? It’s not like they are one playmaker away from being a SB contender. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2013, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2013/655234/448 "2013-04-27T18:52:20Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > With him and Lacy and two new O linemen, that running game better improve. I’ve always seen the rationale. But do you anticipate Bakhtiari and Tretter to add more to the Packers than say a Quinton Patton, Sam Montgomery, or Earle Wolffe? I’m a big fan of stockpiling picks, but sometimes, when your team has pretty good depth at most places, it is OK to make a run at a guy who could be great. With the cutting of DJ Smith and the shopping of Desmond Bishop, I know I would have liked to see a ILB on the draft board. I’m thrilled the Packers have totally punted on improving the entire center of their defense. Bennett should have plenty of room to work. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2013, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2013/655234/449 "2013-04-27T18:58:36Z")
I really think you guys are being too hard on the Panthers. While I am far, far from a Cam Newton fan, I think they’ve done a pretty good job in their recent drafts. Sure there are major fuckups (Armanti Edwards? Really?), but Luke Kuechly looks like a star, Greg Hardy was a great find in the 6th round, and there is some talent there. As far as this draft goes, I think Star will be great, and people tell me Kawann Short is good (I’m not buying it), but I like the AJ Klein pick. They do still need alot of help though. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2013, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2013/655234/450 "2013-04-27T18:59:29Z")
NOW the Bears trade back? At least they got a 7th back. Wonder if they were targeting those CBs that went before their pick and they opted to trade back or if the Falcons really wanted Maponga and thought he’d be gone. Let’s see if Swope or Dysert are still there at 30. ---
**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2013, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2013/655234/451 "2013-04-27T19:04:47Z")
> [@ZebraShaSha](#): > > I could see that… but isn’t this draft perfect for them, in that they can build solid, starting depth everywhere, then try for a future star later? It’s not like they are one playmaker away from being a SB contender. It depends who that superstar is. I would say that you have a better chance to drastically improve your team with one superstar than with several good starters. One really, really good player can make several average guys around him better, too. I’m not saying I prefer that approach. But either option has value and there’s a lot to be said for being the only team to take advantage of a viable strategy. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2013, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2013/655234/452 "2013-04-27T19:05:34Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > I’m thrilled the Packers have totally punted on improving the entire center of their defense. Bennett should have plenty of room to work. Maybe they’ll move Eddie Lacy to ILB. Or, if they’re really desperate, they could sign a couple of overaged, oft injured, unimpressive free agent linebackers and pretend they’ve taken care of the position. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2013, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2013/655234/453 "2013-04-27T19:06:23Z")
The Niners got another good one in Dial. Son of a bitch. Who do the Packers get here? ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2013, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2013/655234/454 "2013-04-27T19:07:25Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > Maybe they’ll move Eddie Lacy to ILB. Or, if they’re really desperate, they could sign a couple of overaged, oft injured, unimpressive free agent linebackers and pretend they’ve taken care of the position. Or, you know, draft a couple… ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2013, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2013/655234/455 "2013-04-27T19:08:37Z")
C’mon Brandon Jenkins. Micah Hyde. They do need help at the safety position, but I know nothing about the guy. Off to research. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2013, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2013/655234/456 "2013-04-27T19:12:17Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > C’mon Brandon Jenkins. > > Micah Hyde. They do need help at the safety position, but I know nothing about the guy. Off to research. Looks like a stereotypical Nickel. Skills read a bit like the old version of Woodson. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2013, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2013/655234/457 "2013-04-27T19:13:31Z")
Another guy named Quinton for the 49ers. This time Dial. He’ll fight to make the roster as a backup 3-4 DE. Seems to have good size for a 5-tech. I like the pick. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2013, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2013/655234/458 "2013-04-27T19:17:56Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > Looks like a stereotypical Nickel. Skills read a bit like the old version of Woodson. Hey! That’s the Defensive Back of the Year in the Big Ten you’re talking about. He also is big on special teams and a potential returner. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2013, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2013/655234/459 "2013-04-27T19:19:25Z")
Damn Redskins just drafted two of “my guys” in this round. Chris Thompson and Brandon Jenkins. If I didn’t hate Daniel Snyder so much, I might consider rooting for them. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2013, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2013/655234/460 "2013-04-27T19:21:02Z")
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