# NFL Draft 2013 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 9, 2013, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2013/655234 "2013-04-09T16:07:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 25
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2013, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2013/655234/481 "2013-04-27T20:32:10Z")
Another Bears pick coming up. Looking at Lutzenkirchen, Dysert, Poyer, Pocic, Da’Rick Rogers, Maysonet. I think Rogers is my favorite. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2013, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2013/655234/482 "2013-04-27T20:32:47Z")
> [@Southern\_Yankee](#): > > Now THAT pick I don’t understand by the Panthers. Ugh. As an Oregon fan, I’m contractually obligated to like Barner. He’ll make a good read-option partner with Cam Newton, if he can reach up that high. Return man option, too. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2013, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2013/655234/483 "2013-04-27T20:38:43Z")
> [@garygnu](#): > > As an Oregon fan, … Does Nike pay you too? ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2013, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2013/655234/484 "2013-04-27T20:39:24Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > What did the Browns do to get lumped into this category? They couldn’t do as much without a second rounder, but if you consider Josh Gordon their second rounder it was a really great use of it. If you dumped him in the draft this year knowing how productive he was even on a horrible offense in his first year he’d be a mid first round pick at worst, possibly taken before Tavon Austin. > > Otherwise they got someone most people thought was a top 10-12 guy in the top 10, and a decent CB prospect which was a big need in the third. I’m not sure where the big “ha ha, dumb Browns” comes from based on this. Not having a 2nd, 4th or 5th is a good start. Moving back to 2014, out of a deep draft, is not very helpful. The Browns can’t wait to rebuild, they aren’t the Patriots or Niners, they can’t stash picks for the future. Mingo is overrated, but that’s not why they are lumped in here. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2013, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2013/655234/485 "2013-04-27T20:43:19Z")
So do you think the Browns getting Josh Gordon a year early with their second round pick is actually a bad move? One that makes them one of the 3 dumbest franchises worthy of mention? Who could they have picked in round 2 that would’ve been better than Gordon? ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2013, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2013/655234/486 "2013-04-27T20:43:54Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > Does Nike pay you too? I’m contractually obligated to answer, “No.” Nice pick for the Bears. Cornelius Washington was on my radar as a late-round steal. Topped the combine in 40, bench, and both vertical and broad jump. Probably a third-down only guy for now. ---
**Author:** ![ZebraShaSha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/eada6e/32.png) [@ZebraShaSha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZebraShaSha)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2013, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2013/655234/487 "2013-04-27T20:44:49Z")
Man, what a weird draft for Steelers. They get the guys they were targeting, but it seems like they keep reaching. I know Justin Brown was in for pre-draft visits, but was he on any other teams radar? Kruger’s still there, he’d be just as much a project, but he’s far more well known to other teams and might not last the round. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2013, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2013/655234/488 "2013-04-27T20:47:50Z")
I really want the Packers to draft 1982 Lawrence Taylor with their next pick. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2013, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2013/655234/489 "2013-04-27T20:48:51Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > So do you think the Browns getting Josh Gordon a year early with their second round pick is actually a bad move? One that makes them one of the 3 dumbest franchises worthy of mention? Who could they have picked in round 2 that would’ve been better than Gordon? I don’t have a problem with the Gordon pickup. Though I’m pretty sure a 2nd rounder was WAY more than they needed to bid to get him, Historically this team has been terrible at drafting. This year they basically punted. Plus they have Lombardi. What exactly have they done to get out of the bad-draft dog house? ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2013, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2013/655234/490 "2013-04-27T20:50:17Z")
> [@ZebraShaSha](#): > > Man, what a weird draft for Steelers. They get the guys they were targeting, but it seems like they keep reaching. I know Justin Brown was in for pre-draft visits, but was he on any other teams radar? Kruger’s still there, he’d be just as much a project, but he’s far more well known to other teams and might not last the round. Brown has _no_ info listed on [NFL.com](http://NFL.com). Just his name and school; no height, no weight, no grade. Da’Rick Rogers must be wanted for stealing a submarine or aiding North Korea or something. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2013, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2013/655234/491 "2013-04-27T20:50:43Z")
Yeah, Rambo! ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2013, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2013/655234/492 "2013-04-27T20:51:07Z")
A completely new regime gets them out of the bad drafting dog house. It’s not as if there’s some gypsy curse that stays with franchises separately from the people who run them. Bills would’ve taken Gordon with their third rounder in the supplemental draft, so the Browns needed to do a 2. And it was a steal even at that price. I’m not saying they’ve had a great draft, but including Gordon as part of it (that’s only logical) it looks pretty okay. I agree that setting up for next year is a weird strategy in this draft, but not enough to say they stand out as one of the three worst teams. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2013, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2013/655234/493 "2013-04-27T20:54:13Z")
> [@garygnu](#): > > I’m contractually obligated to answer, “No.” > > Nice pick for the Bears. Cornelius Washington was on my radar as a late-round steal. Topped the combine in 40, bench, and both vertical and broad jump. Probably a third-down only guy for now. I’m on board with this pick too. Didn’t have DE as the most pressing need (they have like 12 of them on the roster) but with Peppers eventually being a cap casualty, McClellin being a 3rd down player only, Izzy still unsigned, Wootton’s injury history and McBride’s general suckiness there’s a good argument to be made for grabbing a high upside guy. Maybe Washington puts it together and can anchor one side of the line in a year or two, getting a DE with his measurables this late in the draft is very defensible. Still think getting Rogers could have been more impactful in 2013 though. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2013, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2013/655234/494 "2013-04-27T20:54:25Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > A completely new regime gets them out of the bad drafting dog house. It’s not as if there’s some gypsy curse that stays with franchises separately from the people who run them. Tell that to the Clippers. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2013, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2013/655234/495 "2013-04-27T20:54:40Z")
Incidentally I wonder if the Browns are trying to get picks in next year’s draft to move up to grab a QB. I don’t expect them to be picking in the top 5 (although I’m sure everyone else will) so they’ll need some ammunition to trade up. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2013, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2013/655234/496 "2013-04-27T21:02:24Z")
Packers draft Illinois State OLB/DE Nate Palmer (who incidentally visited the Packers) Take that **Omni**! Did Chase Thomas kill a hooker or something? ---
**Author:** ![ZebraShaSha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/eada6e/32.png) [@ZebraShaSha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZebraShaSha)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2013, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2013/655234/497 "2013-04-27T21:06:56Z")
> [@garygnu](#): > > Brown has _no_ info listed on [NFL.com](http://NFL.com). Just his name and school; no height, no weight, no grade. Da’Rick Rogers must be wanted for stealing a submarine or aiding North Korea or something. Bar fights, kicked out of Tennessee after failing three drug tests, etc. Not a Steelers kind of player. Brown wasn’t invited to the combine, he was a casualty of the whole PSU thing but did well in his final season at OSU. 6’3", 210 pounds, strong hands, and a 4.60 40 yard dash. Was pretty athletic, had good completion %. Steelers always seem to pick great receivers late, so I’m going to let them have this one. On paper it sounds like he’s has an enormous upside, but needs a lot of coaching, especially with route running. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2013, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2013/655234/498 "2013-04-27T21:08:03Z")
> [@ZebraShaSha](#): > > Bar fights, kicked out of Tennessee after failing three drug tests, etc. Not a Steelers kind of player. No kidding. No rape or beating his girlfriend. Slacker. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2013, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2013/655234/499 "2013-04-27T21:10:20Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > Packers draft Illinois State OLB/DE Nate Palmer (who incidentally visited the Packers) > > Take that **Omni**! So confused… ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2013, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2013/655234/500 "2013-04-27T21:10:35Z")
I just read a report that WRs and RBs with criminal history gain something like 140 more yards a year. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2013/655234.md?page=24) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft-2013/655234.md?page=26)