# NFL draft **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [April 23, 2006, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft/353859 "2006-04-23T15:42:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2006, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft/353859/281 "2006-04-29T20:46:51Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > Vasher, Tillman, Mike Brown, Alex Brown, Tommy Harris, Lance Briggs, Chris Gandy, Urlacher, Hillenmeyer. Just to emphasize, GB drafted Hillenmeyer. So if he’s your Ace in the hole, it shows GB is better at drafting. And Urlacher? A great talent, obviously, but I’ll use Barnett to call and Hawk to raise. You had the #2 defense to our #7 defense last year. The chasm has suddenly become much, much smaller. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2006, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft/353859/282 "2006-04-29T20:46:59Z")
Jets take Mangold, Colts take Addai. Are there any other Frank Zappa fans reading this? I hope I’m not the only one who was amused to hear that both Mangold and A.J. Hawk were from _Centerville_, Ohio? ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2006, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft/353859/283 "2006-04-29T20:49:51Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > Officially add me to the list of people calling for Angelos’ head on a fucking pike. Wow. They don’t even have to step onto the field to fuck themselves. This day just keeps getting better and better. Except for the Colts getting Mangold. OTOH, Pittsburgh is my AFC team so I guess I should be happy that Manning will be healthy enough for the next 5 years to find a way to keep Indy from winning the SB. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2006, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft/353859/284 "2006-04-29T20:52:24Z")
Or New York. Whatever. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2006, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft/353859/285 "2006-04-29T20:54:14Z")
Ha. I was waiting for the anureyism to hit. We were taking bets too. I just missed with “2 minutes”. Come on, Bears. Don’t fail me now. I wanna see **Omniscent** ’s mock suicide post like I did. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2006, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft/353859/286 "2006-04-29T20:55:28Z")
Guesses: Seahawks - Jimmy Williams Texans - Justice Saints - Mathias Kiwanuka Jets - LenDale White Packers - Jean-Gilles 49ers - Chad Jackson Raiders - Gabe Watson Titans - Ashton Youboty Lions - Marcus McNeil Cards - Kelly Jennings Bears - Sinorice Moss (god we fucked up…) ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2006, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft/353859/287 "2006-04-29T20:57:56Z")
Because he’s about to slide to the upper second round, LenDale White is now giving the obligatory “nobody ever believed in me” speech. What a crock. That said, I think he’s going to do well for somebody and could have worked as Pittsburgh’s replacement for Bettis. ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2006, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft/353859/288 "2006-04-29T20:59:17Z")
Hm. I’d be kinda happy if the Lions for Yobouty now that he was skipped over for Kelly Jenings. ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2006, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft/353859/289 "2006-04-29T21:00:21Z")
I’d be happy if my fingers wanted to work properly as well. They’re numb sausages, folks. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2006, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft/353859/290 "2006-04-29T21:00:46Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > Um, I’d say the Holmes pick is _awesome_. Monumentally stupid trade by the Giants, though they did get a lot back. You’re insane. I cheered out loud when Tags announced it. Trade down again now, I say! WTF does the #4 ranked offense in the league with all starters returning need with a WR? ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2006, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft/353859/291 "2006-04-29T21:02:10Z")
> [@Ellis Dee](#): > > You’re insane. I cheered out loud when Tags announced it. Trade down again now, I say! > > WTF does the #4 ranked offense in the league with all starters returning need with a WR? Same reason a team with great Ends would draft Kiwanuka. ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2006, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft/353859/292 "2006-04-29T21:02:25Z")
**Omniscent** , the Giants disappeared in your mock draft. Is that by design? Mel Kiper doesn’t like. I think I agree, as well. Too early for this guy. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2006, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft/353859/293 "2006-04-29T21:03:25Z")
Holy fucking shit are fucking KIDDING ME?! DE is possibly the strongest position on the _whole fucking team_. Fucking General Tom and his fucking hardon for fucking Boston College guys. FUCK! Did this guy knock up his other daughter or what? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2006, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft/353859/294 "2006-04-29T21:04:31Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > Same reason a team with great Ends would draft Kiwanuka. Strahan’s time is growing short, though. The strange picks are continuing. The Texans take Ryans? ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2006, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft/353859/295 "2006-04-29T21:04:43Z")
_shrug_ It’s SO out of my hands. Didn’t we have a thread about who should be the next commish for the NFL? Get them on the horn, for crying out loud and tell them to straighten this out! I don’t get the Giants’ pick either. You guys inhaling swamp gas from the Meadowlands or something? ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2006, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft/353859/296 "2006-04-29T21:04:49Z")
Jean-Gilles in the second round? I could think of worse. I was also thinking Darryl Tapp, but much like Carrol, I don’t like that he’s not very tall. Take 2 guys with a 40 inch verticle and factor in one is 6 inches taller, and you see the problem. BTW, I’ve seen a lot of negative on Hawk for not having “hip fluidity”. What the hell is hip fluidity and is it really something that will take an elite LB and lower him to a class of standard everyday LB’s? Honestly, before today I had never heard of “hip fluidity”. I have to think it’s something that can be learned since it didn’t seem to be an issue in past years. ---
**Author:** ![Kiros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/439d5e/32.png) [@Kiros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kiros)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2006, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft/353859/297 "2006-04-29T21:05:45Z")
Yeah, Ryans is good value there, but you’d Justice would fit PERFECTLY into what they need. The issues with him _must_ be bigger than any of us know. I’m really hoping the Pats can sneak up in the second round, there are a LOT of quality players who have dropped at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2006, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft/353859/298 "2006-04-29T21:06:15Z")
Allow me to relay the [ESPN.com](http://ESPN.com) reaction my Bills’ first-round picks: > [@](#): > > Taking Whitner is a one of the biggest reaches we have seen. > [@](#): > > Some picks are more difficult to explain than others. It’s true that defensive tackle is one of the Bills’ needs, but taking McCargo here is one of the biggest reaches we’ve seen in years. However, Kiper seems to think the Whitney selection was justified. Either way, these look like big gambles. ---
**Author:** ![dnooman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/839c29/32.png) [@dnooman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dnooman)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2006, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft/353859/299 "2006-04-29T21:06:19Z")
That was shocking. Strahan isn’t _that_ close to retirement is he? He and Osi put on a DE clinic all year, yet we need more DEs. Lame! ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2006, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft/353859/300 "2006-04-29T21:07:56Z")
They kind of make shit up like that up. “Hip fluidity” would be how quickly his hips flip over. Say you’re running sideways, covering a tight end and he crosses and goes to your other side. They’d have to flip their bodies around. The speed of said flipping is determined by their hips. I agree, **Kiros**. There’s gotta be a reason Justice is falling so damned far. I’m getting giddy again. Lendale White is undervalued. He should have been taken by now. He will be a good pro. Mark these words. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft/353859.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-draft/353859.md?page=16)