# NFL Fantasy Football Discussion: Week 4 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 27, 2010, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-fantasy-football-discussion-week-4/555276 "2010-09-27T21:29:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2010, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-fantasy-football-discussion-week-4/555276/61 "2010-09-30T14:45:06Z")
James Brooks never carried the ball more than 225 times in a season, and Barry Sanders is… well, Barry Sanders. ---
**Author:** ![ReticulatingSplines](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e274bd/32.png) [@ReticulatingSplines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ReticulatingSplines)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2010, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-fantasy-football-discussion-week-4/555276/62 "2010-09-30T14:53:19Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > James Brooks never carried the ball more than 225 times in a season, and Barry Sanders is… well, Barry Sanders. Well, if you can give a 180 pound pipsqueak 225 carries, I’m sure 250 for the weedy Charles isn’t too big a stretch. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2010, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-fantasy-football-discussion-week-4/555276/63 "2010-09-30T15:02:01Z")
I could go with 250. He’s not far off 250-carry pace, though, which is my point. Remember, the Chiefs were blowing out the 49ers for much of their last game. When all you’re doing is running straight at a defense to chew clock, a guy like Thomas Jones is exactly who you want. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2010, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-fantasy-football-discussion-week-4/555276/64 "2010-09-30T15:58:50Z")
Well, the Raiders marginalized Marcus Allen. Well, more accurately Al Davis did. ---
**Author:** ![Superhal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Superhal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superhal)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-fantasy-football-discussion-week-4/555276/65 "2010-10-01T00:40:28Z")
> [@ReticulatingSplines](#): > > Yes, it’s fine, but my point is, why don’t you put your best player on the field? I remember one year they interviewed Petyon Manning after a 13-10 win where he didn’t throw a touchdown. Somebody came up to him on the street and said, “Dude, you’re killing my fantasy team.” Peyton replied, “I think we have different goals here.” I never draft Colts unless I get them cheap, because every single year, they sit their starters in weeks 16 and 17. What’s the difference with KC preserving Charles until later in the season? I think it makes perfect sense, football-wise, to use Charles as the primary back in only the 2nd half of the season while they are on the playoff run. I would also agree with, if they clinch the playoffs, to sit him late in the season. It also makes fiscal sense to KC to keep his stats low so he doesn’t get leverage, they keep him tied to a low rookie contract, and he costs less to re-sign. ---
**Author:** ![Superhal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Superhal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superhal)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-fantasy-football-discussion-week-4/555276/66 "2010-10-01T00:47:31Z")
Hindsight is 20/20: In my first 4 rounds of my draft this year, I took: 1. MJD 2. Aaron Rodgers 3. Calvin Johnson 4. Jamaal Charles 5. Joseph Addai Within 3 picks, these are the players taken after my pick: 1. Michael Turner and Frank Gore 2. Peyton Manning 3. Roddy White and Desean Jackson 4. Jahvid Best 5. Antonio Gates Sigh. Looking back, I would totally pick the same guys I picked based on the information I had at the time. ---
**Author:** ![Superhal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Superhal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superhal)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-fantasy-football-discussion-week-4/555276/67 "2010-10-01T00:53:54Z")
Bleah. Steven Jackson is now questionable/doubtful, giving my wife’s team 3 RB’s unable to play and she is forced to start Beanie Wells and Jason Snelling. ---
**Author:** ![Superhal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Superhal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superhal)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-fantasy-football-discussion-week-4/555276/68 "2010-10-01T01:10:49Z")
I’m thinking about replacing Snelling. He’s probably good for 10 fantasy points, but I think I should get someone who at least projects for 20 carries. Available FA’s: BenJarvus Green-Ellis: Fred Taylor definitely looks out for the next game @MIA. Marshawn Lynch: Appears to be pulling ahead of the pack of the Bills’ three headed monster. Kenneth Darby: Makes a lot of sense since we have Steven Jackson. Willis McGahee: Will McGahee see 30 carries if Rice is out? This might be a great sleeper play if the Steelers don’t pull so far ahead that the Ravens have to stop running. Which would you drop: Demaryius Thomas or Eddie Royal? ---
**Author:** ![soulmurk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b782af/32.png) [@soulmurk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/soulmurk)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-fantasy-football-discussion-week-4/555276/69 "2010-10-01T01:15:18Z")
> [@Superhal](#): > > Bleah. Steven Jackson is now questionable/doubtful, giving my wife’s team 3 RB’s unable to play and she is forced to start Beanie Wells and Jason Snelling. Take heart, Michael Turner is about due for his annual season-ending injury. I would just like to point out that though the Redskins D/ST is horrible, in reality and in fantasy football, you don’t want your fantasy players to face them. In consecutive weeks they’ve banged up Dez Bryant, DeMarcus Ware, Andre Johnson and Steven Jackson. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-fantasy-football-discussion-week-4/555276/70 "2010-10-01T01:37:55Z")
> [@Superhal](#): > > Bleah. Steven Jackson is now questionable/doubtful, giving my wife’s team 3 RB’s unable to play and she is forced to start Beanie Wells and Jason Snelling. Crap. That brings me down to a total of… oh… zero healthy starting backs. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-fantasy-football-discussion-week-4/555276/71 "2010-10-01T05:01:43Z")
> [@Superhal](#): > > I never draft Colts unless I get them cheap, because every single year, they sit their starters in weeks 16 and 17. What’s the difference with KC preserving Charles until later in the season? I think it makes perfect sense, football-wise, to use Charles as the primary back in only the 2nd half of the season while they are on the playoff run. I would also agree with, if they clinch the playoffs, to sit him late in the season. Wins early in the season count just as much as wins late in the season. It’s probably preferable to play him more early and rest him later, so he’d be fresh if they make the playoffs. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-fantasy-football-discussion-week-4/555276/72 "2010-10-01T05:12:56Z")
> [@soulmurk](#): > > > [@Superhal](#): > > > > Bleah. Steven Jackson is now questionable/doubtful, giving my wife’s team 3 RB’s unable to play and she is forced to start Beanie Wells and Jason Snelling. > > Take heart, Michael Turner is about due for his annual season-ending injury. Turner has started 16 and 11 games since signing with the Falcons. :dubious: If you mean he’s going to get hurt because you own him, then… fuck you, 'cause I’ve got him in the SDMB Dynasty league and I really need him. ---
**Author:** ![soulmurk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b782af/32.png) [@soulmurk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/soulmurk)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-fantasy-football-discussion-week-4/555276/73 "2010-10-01T12:33:03Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > > [@soulmurk](#): > > > > Take heart, Michael Turner is about due for his annual season-ending injury. > > Turner has started 16 and 11 games since signing with the Falcons. :dubious: > > If you mean he’s going to get hurt because you own him, then… fuck you, 'cause I’ve got him in the SDMB Dynasty league and I really need him. I need him, too! My RB corps is not exactly awe inspiring. I blame ESPN. Their weekly projections consistently harp on how one needs to take advantage of him while he’s healthy, as if he’s made of glass and liable to break at any moment. It’s got me nervous. ---
**Author:** ![ReticulatingSplines](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e274bd/32.png) [@ReticulatingSplines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ReticulatingSplines)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-fantasy-football-discussion-week-4/555276/74 "2010-10-01T14:16:00Z")
> [@Superhal](#): > > It also makes fiscal sense to KC to keep his stats low so he doesn’t get leverage, they keep him tied to a low rookie contract, and he costs less to re-sign. Dude, this is a human being we’re talking about here. Would YOU re-sign with a team that kept you on the bench so they could push down your price? ---
**Author:** ![soulmurk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b782af/32.png) [@soulmurk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/soulmurk)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-fantasy-football-discussion-week-4/555276/75 "2010-10-01T15:14:03Z")
Ronnie Brown, Ellis-Green or McFadden this week? Brown is supposedly dealing with a hamstring injury, NE notoriously under-use their RBs, and McFadden is going up against Houston. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-fantasy-football-discussion-week-4/555276/76 "2010-10-01T15:19:41Z")
The Texans are #2 in rush defense (mostly because they give up passing yards like a sieve). Anyway, out of the three, Ronnie Brown is a should-start every week. Not a must-start, because you’d bench him against, say, Pittsburgh, but a should-start. ---
**Author:** ![Superhal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Superhal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superhal)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-fantasy-football-discussion-week-4/555276/77 "2010-10-01T17:50:57Z")
> [@soulmurk](#): > > Ronnie Brown, Ellis-Green or McFadden this week? > > Brown is supposedly dealing with a hamstring injury, NE notoriously under-use their RBs, and McFadden is going up against Houston. McFadden, by a mile. Ellis-green did well last week, but you don’t need to gamble when you have those two in front of him. Ronnie is the starter in Miami, but so far he’s never had more than 13 carries and 2 catches. McFadden has been hot, and, amazingly, unhurt. He’s 2nd in rush attempts, 3rd in yards, and a healthy 4.7 ypc average. I think Michael Bush is wishing he amputated his thumb. ---
**Author:** ![Superhal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Superhal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superhal)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-fantasy-football-discussion-week-4/555276/78 "2010-10-01T17:54:38Z")
n/m ---
**Author:** ![MeDrewNotYou](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@MeDrewNotYou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeDrewNotYou)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2010, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-fantasy-football-discussion-week-4/555276/79 "2010-10-02T07:58:00Z")
Just one quickie this week for my W/T spot. Vernon Davis@Atl, Tony Gonzalez vs SF, or Mario Manningham vs Chi I’m pretty sure the two TE are a better bet, but I’m not sure which. SF’s mediocre offense traveling all the way east makes me lean towards Gonzalez, but Vernon Davis has done well in weeks 1-2 for me despite the 49er’s problems. ---
**Author:** ![Superhal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Superhal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superhal)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2010, 8:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-fantasy-football-discussion-week-4/555276/80 "2010-10-02T08:52:16Z")
I’d go with VD. I think ATL will be far ahead and start pounding the ball on the ground, while SF will be forced to go deep often. I’d avoid NYG vs any team with a decent rush, e.g. peppers, until the tackles can prove they can stop the edge rush. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-fantasy-football-discussion-week-4/555276.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-fantasy-football-discussion-week-4/555276.md?page=5)