# NFL Honors? Is that what you call it?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-honors-is-that-what-you-call-it/828503>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 27, 2019, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-honors-is-that-what-you-call-it/828503 "2019-01-27T22:47:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-honors-is-that-what-you-call-it/828503/1 "2019-01-27T22:47:40Z")

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[The very last thing](https://www.usatoday.com/sports/nfl/arrests/)  
[the National Football League](https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/8qwpm4/2015-nfl-report) should be doing is crafting a ceremony that honors these motherfucking\*\* hoodlums.

That $ 9 Billion league should spend more time working to eliminate the culture of fucking racism and motherfucking sexual violence and less time making up some shit-ass award that means exactly nothing.

\*\* [Moderator Miller encourages this language here.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=858609)

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> Go forth and be filthy.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-honors-is-that-what-you-call-it/828503/2 "2019-01-28T00:08:44Z")

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Oh, yes. All these accusations! Obviously guilty! Reminds me of the music industry. Michael Jackson was accused of sexual assault and they did nothing about curbing sexual harassment and did nothing about ending fucking racism. Hell, $9 billion is peanuts compared to the music industry, yet they won’t even wear pink to try to eliminate breast cancer. Crazy!

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-honors-is-that-what-you-call-it/828503/3 "2019-01-28T00:52:55Z")

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Um, what exactly are you talking about?

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-honors-is-that-what-you-call-it/828503/4 "2019-01-28T00:58:50Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> Oh, yes. All these accusations! Obviously guilty! Reminds me of the music industry. Michael Jackson was accused of sexual assault and they did nothing about curbing sexual harassment and did nothing about ending fucking racism. Hell, $9 billion is peanuts compared to the music industry, yet they won’t even wear pink to try to eliminate breast cancer. Crazy!

(I think they do, actually.)

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**Author:** ![UCBearcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/77aa72/32.png) [@UCBearcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UCBearcats)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-honors-is-that-what-you-call-it/828503/5 "2019-01-28T01:06:45Z")

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How about all of these members of the federal government who have been convicted of crimes.

> **[List of American federal politicians convicted of crimes](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_federal_politicians_convicted_of_crimes)**
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> This list consists of American politicians convicted of crimes either committed or prosecuted while holding office in the federal government. It includes politicians who were convicted or pleaded guilty in a court of law; and does not include politicians involved in unprosecuted scandals (which may or may not have been illegal in nature), or politicians who have only been arrested or indicted. The list also does not include crimes that occur outside the politician's tenure unless they specific...

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**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-honors-is-that-what-you-call-it/828503/6 "2019-01-28T01:09:55Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> Oh, yes. All these accusations! Obviously guilty! Reminds me of the music industry. Michael Jackson was accused of sexual assault and they did nothing about curbing sexual harassment and did nothing about ending fucking racism. Hell, $9 billion is peanuts compared to the music industry, yet they won’t even wear pink to try to eliminate breast cancer. Crazy!

Point well taken.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-honors-is-that-what-you-call-it/828503/7 "2019-01-28T01:14:16Z")

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What’s your signature mean?

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-honors-is-that-what-you-call-it/828503/8 "2019-01-28T02:47:26Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> What’s your signature mean?

It’s from the U2 song _Mysterious Ways._

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-honors-is-that-what-you-call-it/828503/9 "2019-01-28T03:38:35Z")

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Is this a new thing? Hasn’t the NFL (and the leagues of other sports as well) been recognizing seasonal accomplishments like most yards gained and highest number of sacks and whatnot for a long long time?

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-honors-is-that-what-you-call-it/828503/10 "2019-01-28T03:50:32Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Is this a new thing? Hasn’t the NFL (and the leagues of other sports as well) been recognizing seasonal accomplishments like most yards gained and highest number of sacks and whatnot for a long long time?

Yes, and there are even awards to celebrate the best among the vast majority of NFL athletes who aren’t terrible human beings and who are actually very good human beings who do good works in society on an ongoing basis. Apparently they don’t count or matter.

But it’s **Cartooniverse**. I’d be shocked if he started a Pit post that wasn’t poorly researched, head-scratching recreational outrage.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-honors-is-that-what-you-call-it/828503/11 "2019-01-28T04:16:43Z")

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> [@Cartooniverse](#):
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> Point well taken.

I was whooshing.

Some are guilty, yes. (Still think Kane from the Hawks is a scumbag.) But an accusation isn’t a conviction. And many of the players aren’t top paid, celebrities. It’s not like magic league lawyers come to the rescue for them, and most are not convictions.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-honors-is-that-what-you-call-it/828503/12 "2019-01-28T19:36:23Z")

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Which of the players nominated for an award is a hoodlum?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-honors-is-that-what-you-call-it/828503/13 "2019-01-28T20:45:10Z")

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It’s been a while, but maybe you’re thinking of DB [Eugene Robinson](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_Robinson) of the 1998 Atlanta Falcons, who was awarded the Athletes in Action/Bart Starr Award, given annually to a player who best exemplifies outstanding character and leadership in the home, on the field and in the community, the day before Super Bowl XXXIII. He was groggy and missed a few plays in the game, because he’d been up all night in the police station after propositioning an undercover cop in a prostitution sting.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-honors-is-that-what-you-call-it/828503/14 "2019-01-28T20:52:20Z")

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> [@Cartooniverse](#):
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> [The very last thing](https://www.usatoday.com/sports/nfl/arrests/)
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> [the National Football League](https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/8qwpm4/2015-nfl-report) should be doing is crafting a ceremony that honors these motherfucking\*\* hoodlums.
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> That $ 9 Billion league should spend more time working to eliminate the culture of fucking racism and motherfucking sexual violence and less time making up some shit-ass award that means exactly nothing.
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> \*\* [Moderator Miller encourages this language here.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=858609)

You really must be quite stupid. There are people arrested for crimes in every single line of work, including the priesthood.

I don’t think a sports organization can ‘end racism.’ But, playing team sports is actually a good way for people to interact with those from different backgrounds and races. It’s pretty hard to be racist against the guy of a different race that has just scored a game winning touchdown.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-honors-is-that-what-you-call-it/828503/15 "2019-01-28T21:04:14Z")

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I imagine that depends on which team he scored it for.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-honors-is-that-what-you-call-it/828503/16 "2019-01-28T21:58:46Z")

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I’m still confused about when the NFL instituted awards honoring players or teams with the highest number of arrests\* or most grievous crimes.

\*though the Cincinnati Bengals deserve some sort of lifetime recognition honors in this category.

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**Author:** ![UCBearcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/77aa72/32.png) [@UCBearcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UCBearcats)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-honors-is-that-what-you-call-it/828503/17 "2019-01-28T22:13:24Z")

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Actually Denver and Minnesota have more arrests since 2000 than the Bengals.

> **[NFL Arrest Statistics](http://www.nflarrest.com/)**
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> Explore every NFL Players arrest record since 2000, find the most common crimes for your rival football team. Find out what players have the most arrests and read the details of each incident! Checkout our Arrest Meter and findout how many days it's...

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-honors-is-that-what-you-call-it/828503/18 "2019-01-28T22:39:22Z")

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> [@Cartooniverse](#):
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> That $ 9 Billion league should spend more time working to eliminate the culture of fucking racism and motherfucking sexual violence and less time making up some shit-ass award that means exactly nothing.

Isn’t giving public recognition to the players who are behaving in an exemplary fashion doing something to encourage better behavior?

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**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-honors-is-that-what-you-call-it/828503/19 "2019-01-29T03:09:03Z")

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> [@UCBearcats](#):
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> Actually Denver and Minnesota have more arrests since 2000 than the Bengals.
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> [http://nflarrest.com](http://nflarrest.com)

I’m going to have a LOT of fun with that website. You can filter out different arrest reasons, sort by what day of the week the arrest was made, all kinds of interesting stuff!
