# NFL News Injury and QB News from Foxsports **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [November 17, 2015, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-news-injury-and-qb-news-from-foxsports/737764 "2015-11-17T01:01:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![tarrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f0a364/32.png) [@tarrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tarrel)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-news-injury-and-qb-news-from-foxsports/737764/1 "2015-11-17T01:01:30Z")
Nick Foles will be benched and won’t play next week Peyton Manning has a torn plantar Fascia and won’t play next week Tony Romo Returns next week Sam Bradford to miss the next 2 games Victor Cruz is having season ending surgery Rob Ryan is about to be fired ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-news-injury-and-qb-news-from-foxsports/737764/2 "2015-11-17T01:18:12Z")
Rob Ryan should be banned from football for life. Steve Spagnola should start looking into a new career. The Gints and Saints defenses eclipse pathetic. They’re high school calibre. ---
**Author:** ![tarrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f0a364/32.png) [@tarrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tarrel)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-news-injury-and-qb-news-from-foxsports/737764/3 "2015-11-17T01:24:15Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > Rob Ryan should be banned from football for life. Steve Spagnola should start looking into a new career. The Gints and Saints defenses eclipse pathetic. They’re high school calibre. Can you believe Spags was considered a defensive genius at one point in his career? I believe it was around 2000/2001 ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-news-injury-and-qb-news-from-foxsports/737764/4 "2015-11-17T01:56:24Z")
> [@tarrel](#): > > Can you believe Spags was considered a defensive genius at one point in his career? I believe it was around 2000/2001 He had the same issues then…late game defense. When the opposition is within one score, the Gints defense collapses. I joke (thought it isn’t a joke really) that the Gints prevent defense only prevents the Gints from winning. The only way they win in that situation is a defensive turnover, and that is not something a team should count on. ---
**Author:** ![tarrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f0a364/32.png) [@tarrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tarrel)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-news-injury-and-qb-news-from-foxsports/737764/5 "2015-11-17T02:03:32Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > He had the same issues then…late game defense. When the opposition is within one score, the Gints defense collapses. I joke (thought it isn’t a joke really) that the Gints prevent defense only prevents the Gints from winning. The only way they win in that situation is a defensive turnover, and that is not something a team should count on. That’s how he got a coaching job from being such a good DC and then he failed and went back to being a DC lol ---
**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-news-injury-and-qb-news-from-foxsports/737764/6 "2015-11-17T03:44:23Z")
> [@tarrel](#): > > That’s how he got a coaching job from being such a good DC and then he failed and went back to being a DC lol I give him credit for drastically slowing down Brady, pressuring him and throwing him off his game. It’s not his fault that 1) Coughlin totally mismanaged the clock on the last Giants offensive possession, 2) Beckham dropped an easy TD or 3) his DB botched a sure pick to end the game. But yeah, his defense has been generally shitty the rest of the year. But on the other hand, where’s the talent? ---
**Author:** ![tarrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f0a364/32.png) [@tarrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tarrel)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-news-injury-and-qb-news-from-foxsports/737764/7 "2015-11-17T03:46:47Z")
> [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#): > > I give him credit for drastically slowing down Brady, pressuring him and throwing him off his game. It’s not his fault that 1) Coughlin totally mismanaged the clock on the last Giants offensive possession, 2) Beckham dropped an easy TD or 3) his DB botched a sure pick to end the game. But yeah, his defense has been generally shitty the rest of the year. But on the other hand, where’s the talent? I think it’s more about defensive schemes than talent. If a DC can;t come up with a scheme to stop a offense on 4th and 10 then he doesn’t need to be working. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-news-injury-and-qb-news-from-foxsports/737764/8 "2015-11-17T14:16:20Z")
> [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#): > > 1. Coughlin totally mismanaged the clock on the last Giants offensive possession Manning optioned away from the run. Personally, I think Coughlin and McAdoo (OC) should have told Manning run no matter what defense they show, but it was initially a run call. Manning’s on field end-of-game clock management decisions have been exceptionally bad this year too. It was very un-Patriots-like that losing Edelmann slowed them so much (and cost me any chance of playoffs in my fantasy league). ---
**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-news-injury-and-qb-news-from-foxsports/737764/9 "2015-11-17T15:26:42Z")
> [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#): > > I give him credit for drastically slowing down Brady, pressuring him and throwing him off his game. It’s not his fault that 1) Coughlin totally mismanaged the clock on the last Giants offensive possession, 2) Beckham dropped an easy TD or 3) his DB botched a sure pick to end the game. But yeah, his defense has been generally shitty the rest of the year. But on the other hand, where’s the talent? I don’t disagree with the larger point, but: 1. The first play by the goalline very easily could have gotten them to the two minute warning (clock stopped at 2:01), so I think they expected it to do so, but once it didn’t there was no way to stop the Pats from getting the ball back with more than enough time to kick a FG (about 1:15), so going for the TD was more important. 2. The ball was directly swatted out of his hands by the DB; not quite a drop, let also an easy TD. 3. It would have been a very difficult interception, as he caught it while falling backwards onto his arm from a height. A chance to end the game, for sure, but not a “how could he miss that??”. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-news-injury-and-qb-news-from-foxsports/737764/10 "2015-11-17T15:29:29Z")
“If he had good hands …” ---
**Author:** ![tarrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f0a364/32.png) [@tarrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tarrel)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-news-injury-and-qb-news-from-foxsports/737764/11 "2015-11-17T15:41:27Z")
The entire giants secondary should be working as security guards since they all suck ---
**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-news-injury-and-qb-news-from-foxsports/737764/12 "2015-11-17T16:00:16Z")
> [@tarrel](#): > > The entire giants secondary should be working as security guards since they all suck Wait, what? The secondary is actually quite good. The pass rush is non-existent and the LBs are among the worst in the league for like the 10th year in a row. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-news-injury-and-qb-news-from-foxsports/737764/13 "2015-11-17T16:09:04Z")
They got a very decent pass rush on the Pats practice-squad O line. JPP is back (well, most of him is). ---
**Author:** ![tarrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f0a364/32.png) [@tarrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tarrel)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-news-injury-and-qb-news-from-foxsports/737764/14 "2015-11-17T20:39:53Z")
> [@VarlosZ](#): > > Wait, what? The secondary is actually quite good. The pass rush is non-existent and the LBs are among the worst in the league for like the 10th year in a row. The pass rush is what led to that possible game ending interception that that idiot Collins dropped ---
**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-news-injury-and-qb-news-from-foxsports/737764/15 "2015-11-17T22:12:56Z")
Yes, they had a better game on Sunday, and JPPs return might make a big difference going forward. _Up until now_ the pass rush has been nonexistent, I should have said. ---
**Author:** ![tarrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f0a364/32.png) [@tarrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tarrel)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2015, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-news-injury-and-qb-news-from-foxsports/737764/16 "2015-11-18T00:06:21Z")
what pisses me off about the Giants is they play the Pats tough and the Cowboys tough but always play like shit when they play the eagles