# NFL Offseason 2022

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** football-nfl\
**Created:** [March 7, 2022, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634 "2022-03-07T20:46:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2022, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/281 "2022-06-02T01:26:56Z")

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Marion Barber III found dead, I really hope this isn’t the start of a much worse story.

> **[Former Cowboys, Bears RB Marion Barber III's death caused by heat stroke, per...](https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/former-cowboys-bears-rb-marion-barber-iiis-death-caused-by-heat-stroke-per-report/?fbclid=IwAR2LOOkAF-JI4WHxGyXZJJJN7OPk8Lv-ZewpAw0nNpAwJFYAU7KbwQi4fhc&fs=e&s=cl)**
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> Barber died June 1 at the age of 38

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2022, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/282 "2022-06-02T18:47:39Z")

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No more Fitzmagic:

> **[Longtime NFL QB Fitzpatrick confirms retirement](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34025889/long-nfl-quarterback-ryan-fitzpatrick-announces-retirement-source-says)**
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> Ryan Fitzpatrick, the enigmatic quarterback out of Harvard who brought his "FitzMagic" to the NFL for nine teams spanning 17 seasons, confirmed his retirement to The Associated Press in a text message on Friday.

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2022, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/283 "2022-06-02T18:53:54Z")

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Thanks for that whopping 3 of 6 for 13 yards. Couldn’t have had the season we did without you. LOL

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2022, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/284 "2022-06-02T19:01:40Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> Marion Barber III found dead, I really hope this isn’t the start of a much worse story.

His passing was noted in a Great Debates thread on football concussions last night; there, I posted a link to the story about his death in the Fort Worth Star-Telegram, where they noted he had had several mental health evaluations since his retirement, and a run-in with the law a couple of years ago, in which it sounds like he rammed his body into a couple of cars.

The article also contained a tweet from last year, from his former teammate Dez Bryant, who described Barber as being “down and out bad.”

Between all of that, and the fact that Barber had a very physical running style, I wouldn’t be surprised if he had suffered from CTE.

> [@Football Concussions, the next Big Thing?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/football-concussions-the-next-big-thing/628696/135):
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> It certainly seems possible. The article to which you linked seems to be more of an opinion piece; the following, more news-y piece, also from the Fort Worth Star-Telegram, contains this passage:

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2022, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/285 "2022-06-02T19:11:08Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> No more Fitzmagic:

It appears that he holds the NFL record for most career passing yards and passing touchdowns for a quarterback who never appeared in the postseason.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2022, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/286 "2022-06-02T19:44:04Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> Pat Mahomes

Patrick - not a huge deal, but calling someone by their preferred name is not that difficult.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2022, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/287 "2022-06-04T22:26:30Z")

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Huh? Oh, you’re right, I forgot the “i”.

What I meant was “Pat Mahomies”

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/288 "2022-06-05T05:15:12Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> What I meant was “Pat Mahomies”

Just keep digging.

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/289 "2022-06-05T18:42:46Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> What I meant was “Pat Mahomies”

Mr. Garrison, Wendy and I feel that was a racist statement.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/290 "2022-06-06T01:22:08Z")

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I mean. it’s just a stupid joke. Apologies.

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**Author:** ![zimaane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a3d4f5/32.png) [@zimaane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zimaane)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/291 "2022-06-06T21:40:32Z")

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Also holds the record for greatest number of teams to play as starting quarterback (9).

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2022, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/292 "2022-06-08T17:19:54Z")

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Commanders DC Jack Del Rio decides to make some political comments.

> <https://twitter.com/darrenmhaynes/status/1534557855126376451?s=21&t=Rh3jcJLFDFpdjqX1lWCTmw>

Doesn’t he remember that he’s a coach on a team that is BASED in Washington, D.C.?!

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**Author:** ![LoneRhino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lonerhino/32/1311_2.png) [@LoneRhino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LoneRhino)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2022, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/293 "2022-06-08T19:00:51Z")

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Don’t you know that vandalism, which was a small part of the protests going on, is the same as attempting to overthrow the government. Obviously, Jack Del Rio gets it.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2022, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/294 "2022-06-08T19:15:35Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> I mean. it’s just a stupid joke. Apologies.

Considering the name of Patrick’s charitable foundation, I really think you’re OK: [https://www.15andthemahomies.org/](https://www.15andthemahomies.org/)

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2022, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/295 "2022-06-08T20:10:05Z")

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Police murdering black people good, republicans acknowledging and accepting losing elections bad.

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2022, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/296 "2022-06-08T20:29:20Z")

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Oh! I didn’t know Mahomes actually _did_ call his fans that.

In that case, it’s _I_ who owe _you_ an apology, @FoieGrasIsEvil.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/297 "2022-06-12T13:54:17Z")

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You don’t since the funny thing is, I didn’t know that either. I just hear “My homies” in my head sometimes when I hear Patrick’s last name. And someone corrected me on “Pat”, a common shorthand for Patrick. I didn’t call him “Patty-cakes” or anything, so what gives there anyway? Has he come out and publicly said he doesn’t like being called that?

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/298 "2022-06-12T15:57:08Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> And someone corrected me on “Pat”, a common shorthand for Patrick. I didn’t call him “Patty-cakes” or anything, so what gives there anyway? Has he come out and publicly said he doesn’t like being called that?

I’ve never heard that he doesn’t like being called “Pat,” but I suspect that he may go by “Patrick” to differentiate from his father, Pat Mahomes, who was a journeyman MLB pitcher in the 1990s and early 2000s.

> **[Pat Mahomes Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Rookie Status & More |...](https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/mahompa01.shtml)**
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> Check out the latest Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Rookie Status & More of Pat Mahomes. Get info about his position, age, height, weight, draft status, bats, throws, school and more on Baseball-reference.com

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/299 "2022-06-12T19:23:16Z")

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Interesting that the Washington Commanders are a sponsor of Capital Pride in D.C. and have a special Commanders sports zone at the pride festival. Not quite what I’d expect out of Dan Snyder.

> **[Pride Festival Exhibitors - Capital Pride Alliance](https://www.capitalpride.org/festival-exhibitors/)**
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> Est. reading time: 18 minutes

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/300 "2022-06-12T19:36:20Z")

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Somehow I doubt it was his idea.

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