# NFL Offseason 2022 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** football-nfl\ **Created:** [March 7, 2022, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634 "2022-03-07T20:46:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2022, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/321 "2022-06-21T07:38:55Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > I realized many years ago that my expert coaching, game planning, and play calling via YELLING at the TV was not effective enough. Whatever you did in 2020, you should do again. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2022, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/322 "2022-06-21T17:03:30Z")
[Watson settles 20 of the 24 cases against him.](https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/browns/2022/06/21/deshaun-watson-browns-settles-lawsuits-allege-sexual-misconduct-massages/7688001001/) Probably means he gets a relatively minor suspension from the NFL. Over/under 7 games? ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2022, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/323 "2022-06-21T17:32:22Z")
I’d guess no more than 4 and that gets appealed down to 1 or 2 at worst. And that depends on settling with the other 4. They’ll indefinitely suspend him if active cases are pending. The NFL seems incapable of actually dealing with these situations in general. There are many only a handful of suspensions more than 6 games. Remember Greg Hardy? 10 game suspension appealed down to 4, which is the same number Tom Brady got for Deflategate. I think even murder might only cost you a season if you were popular enough. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2022, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/324 "2022-06-21T18:45:58Z")
And Gronkowski retires again. > **[Gronk out: Star tight end retiring for 2nd time](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34126136/tampa-bay-buccaneers-te-rob-gronkowski-retiring-nfl-second)** > > Buccaneers tight end Rob Gronkowski is again calling it a career, making the announcement Tuesday via social media. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2022, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/325 "2022-06-22T00:31:05Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > Probably means he gets a relatively minor suspension from the NFL. I don’t think it means anything at all. The NFL does its own investigation and administers punishment based on what it finds. Case in point, Ezekiel Elliot was accused of beating his girlfriend. He was never charged and denied the accusations. Yet, a year later the NFL suspended him from 6 games. This article details why the NFL ruled as they did: > **[Ezekiel Elliott's suspension and appeal, explained](https://www.sbnation.com/2017/8/18/16141526/ezekiel-elliott-suspension-appeal-explained-nfl-domestic-violence)** > > Here’s everything you need to know about what led to Elliott’s suspension. The key section of that article: > The league’s policy does not rely on the same burden of proof as the legal system does. The [personal conduct policy says](https://nfllabor.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/personal-conduct-policy.pdf) that “persons who fail to live up to this standard of conduct are guilty of conduct detrimental and subject to discipline, even where the conduct itself does not result in conviction of a crime.” In other words, whatever the NFL does to Watson is completely separate from whatever is done to him in the court of law. They’re not law enforcement. Their punishments are based solely off of whether he did something the NFL doesn’t approve of, based on their own investigation. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2022, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/326 "2022-06-22T02:19:17Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > I don’t think it means anything at all. Agreed. There’s zero evidence that the NFL issues punishments based on criminal or civil court findings of their equivalent. Of course these settlements are sealed so the NFL should never see the details, making it doubly true. Just smelling the smoke I’m betting Watson gets a full season ban. The PR following the trade has been so, so bad. And it seems like the public discussion has gotten way more critical after the trade versus before. When the allegations first dropped there were a bunch of meatheads defending him and calling the women gold diggers or this a frame job, since he’s been in Cleveland that seems to have dried up. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2022, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/327 "2022-06-22T02:40:07Z")
I had my doubts initially for a couple weeks, I’ll admit. Tony Buzbee is still an upjumped ambulance chaser who has no business in society (polite or impolite) but those guys do get legitimate cases from time to time and it quickly became clear there was a lot of “there” there. That said, who knows what the NFL will do? I mentioned Greg Hardy upthread. Those photos of what he did to that woman were bad. Real bad. And not only did he not get banned from the league, he got less than a full season’s suspension. Which was appallingly appealed down to 4 games. The severity of anything the players do is utterly divorced from punishments from the league. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2022, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/328 "2022-06-22T02:46:59Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > Agreed. There’s zero evidence that the NFL issues punishments based on criminal or civil court findings of their equivalent. Of course these settlements are sealed so the NFL should never see the details, making it doubly true. On the flip side, the NFL has been slow playing this whole thing, putting off a decision until the last minute. They clearly don’t want a head QB in TV with dozens of sexual assault cases pending. If they all get settled, them broadcasts will pretty much gloss over it. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2022, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/329 "2022-06-22T04:57:27Z")
Right or wrong, the NFL seems to put domestic violence into a separate category. Even isolated incidents of “date rape” will move in and out of the spotlight. Being a serial sexual predator just hits different and certainly gets bigger and more persistent headlines, even if, in the grand scheme of things, the harm was probably lesser. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2022, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/330 "2022-06-22T12:18:51Z")
More sad news: Jaymin Ferguson of the Ravens has died. > **[Ravens linebacker Jaylon Ferguson dies at 26](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34129833/baltimore-ravens-lb-jaylon-ferguson-dies-age-26)** > > Ravens outside linebacker Jaylon Ferguson has died at the age of 26, the team announced. The 2019 third-round pick had played three seasons in Baltimore. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2022, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/331 "2022-06-22T14:51:52Z")
Dan Snyder is a worthless piece of excrement and the NFL was complicit in attempting to keep many of the details private. Quelle surprise… 🙄 > **[Panel Finds Daniel Snyder Interfered With Sexual Harassment Investigation](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/22/sports/football/dan-snyder-harassment-news-congress.html)** > > In a memo, a Congressional panel said it found evidence that the Washington Commanders owner conducted a “shadow investigation” of accusers. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2022, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/332 "2022-06-22T16:14:12Z")
And now after refusing to appear because of a bunch of comically flimsy excuses, he’ll be getting a subpoena. 🤣 > **[Subpoena coming for Commanders owner Daniel Snyder's testimony? Recap of NFL...](https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/commanders/2022/06/22/commanders-daniel-snyder-house-committee-investigation-roger-goodell/7693113001/)** > > Roger Goodell testified before House Oversight Committee as part of an probe into the alleged toxic workplace environment within Commanders. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2022, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/333 "2022-06-22T21:00:45Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > More sad news: Jaymin Ferguson of the Ravens has died. It’s a rough day in Raven country. The Goose also died today. > **[NFL Legend Tony Siragusa Dead At 55, Jamal Lewis Mourns](https://amp.tmz.com/2022/06/22/nfl-legend-tony-siragusa-dead-at-55/)** > > NFL legend Tony Siragusa has died at 55 years old, his former Baltimore Ravens teammate, Jamal Lewis, confirmed to TMZ Sports. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/334 "2022-06-23T03:36:01Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > The Goose also died today. I even know who he is. That’s pretty young, RIP. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/335 "2022-06-23T16:42:16Z")
So Roger Goodell and the NFL conducted an extensive internal investigation into the Washington Commanders in which they wrote down nothing and communicated all of their findings entirely verbally. Who did they hire to “investigate” this, the mafia? ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/336 "2022-06-23T18:01:29Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > So Roger Goodell and the NFL conducted an extensive internal investigation into the Washington Commanders in which they wrote down nothing and communicated all of their findings entirely verbally. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/O9xRhwmHBBE/hqdefault.jpg "irobot - im allergic to bullshit") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9xRhwmHBBE) ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/337 "2022-06-28T23:34:36Z")
Deshaun Watson’s disciplinary hearing will resume tomorrow and potentially go for longer than that. The NFL is expected to push for a suspension of at least a year. It would be hilarious if the Browns made this big offseason free-agent signing splash to sign someone who they _knew_ had this baggage, giving a big “fuck you” to their franchise quarterback in the process, and they end up having to start Jacoby Brissett. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/338 "2022-06-29T06:00:38Z")
> [@ekedolphin](#): > > The NFL is expected to push for a suspension of at least a year. What I heard is that likely he will be suspended indefinitely, but after a year they’ll reevaluate if he’s eligible to return. Not unlike how Antonio Brown was handled. > [@ekedolphin](#): > > It would be hilarious if the Browns made this big offseason free-agent signing splash to sign someone who they _knew_ had this baggage, giving a big “fuck you” to their franchise quarterback in the process, and they end up having to start Jacoby Brissett. I’m certain that’s exactly what’s happening. The best part is when they cut Mayfield and eat his salary on top of all of the ridiculous guaranteed (historically high) massive amount of money they’re paying Watson during his suspension. 2020 was a blip. The Browns are really Browning it now. ETA: I need to partially correct myself. > **[A full-season suspension would push Deshaun Watson's entire contact back by a...](https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/a-full-season-suspension-would-push-deshaun-watsons-entire-contact-back-by-a-year)** > > Much was made of the fact that the Browns gave Deshaun Watson a base salary for 2022 of only $1 million, given that the approach would reduce dramatically the financial consequences of, for example, a six- or eight-game suspension. With a suspension, Watson won’t get a dime this year and the Browns aren’t out any money. And next year if his suspension does end, they only pay him $1 million. The real money only starts after that, with $230 million over 5 years guaranteed. The Browns are still on the hook for a lot of money, and Watson may not have the motivation or be in the right shape by the time he’s actually on the field. So they might still be screwed long term. Just not right away. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2022, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/339 "2022-07-01T17:24:30Z")
Ugh, I feared the worst. Fentanyl and cocaine killed Jaylon Ferguson. > **[Examiner: Ravens LB died from fentanyl, cocaine](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34180056/baltimore-ravens-jaylon-ferguson-died-combined-effects-fentanyl-cocaine-officials-say)** > > The Maryland Department of Health said the death of Ravens linebacker Jaylon Ferguson on June 21 was ruled an accident. He was 26. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/340 "2022-07-06T17:43:35Z")
Mayfield traded to the Panthers?! Definitely not on my bingo card. > **[Browns trade Baker Mayfield to Panthers after acquiring Deshaun Watson](https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/browns-trading-baker-mayfield-to-panthers-after-acquiring-deshaun-watson-173534382.html)** > > The move ends a contentious rift with Cleveland following its pursuit of Watson earlier this offseason. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634.md?page=18)