# NFL Offseason 2022 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** football-nfl\ **Created:** [March 7, 2022, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634 "2022-03-07T20:46:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2022, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/101 "2022-03-16T14:52:08Z")
Clearly Washington pulled the trigger on Wentz way too early. It would be terrible optics but they would have been in the mix for Watson, and Mayfield coming available is an interesting wrinkle. On paper, Wentz and Mayfield don’t look all that different to me. On film, aside from the height difference, they don’t look all that different, either. They have a similar type of game, with similar weaknesses. They both have a tendency to panic and toss up ducks when the play doesn’t work out perfectly. Baker seems like he is roughly the same player at a relatively significantly cheaper price (about $10M less). ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2022, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/102 "2022-03-16T15:41:55Z")
It all depends on Mayfield’s injury. He was a helluva lot better QB his first and third years before cratering last year (his PFF grade went from 85.7 in 2020 (8th in the NFL) to 63.6 (30th in the NFL). If you believe that dropoff was due to injury and that he’ll be all healthy soon, he’s a much better QB than Wentz and with higher upside. If not … well, they’ll both be in that huge morass of “win with” QBs that can play great some games and suck others. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2022, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/103 "2022-03-16T15:44:47Z")
I recall reading an article the other day that said that the Colts have a dark horse candidate that is absolutely perfect for their situation. That name is Gardner Minshew. There’s also the rumor that Cleveland may be done with Baker Mayfield, and he seems to [prefer going to Indianapolis](https://www.profootballnetwork.com/if-baker-mayfield-is-traded-what-nfl-team-is-his-preferred-landing-spot/). ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2022, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/104 "2022-03-16T20:21:52Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > I recall reading an article the other day that said that the Colts have a dark horse candidate that is absolutely perfect for their situation. > > That name is Gardner Minshew. I love watching Minshew. He’s really fun. But I wouldn’t want him as my starter. He’s like a Ryan Fitzpatrick; an interesting person, and he’ll be great at times, and just awful many other times. > [@Superdude](#): > > There’s also the rumor that Cleveland may be done with Baker Mayfield, and he seems to [prefer going to Indianapolis](https://www.profootballnetwork.com/if-baker-mayfield-is-traded-what-nfl-team-is-his-preferred-landing-spot/). This though makes a lot of sense. I would not be surprised to see this happen. ---
**Author:** ![SwissMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@SwissMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SwissMan)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2022, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/105 "2022-03-16T20:23:37Z")
Of course, what happens with the Browns if they don’t win the Deshaun Watson sweepstakes? ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2022, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/106 "2022-03-16T20:24:40Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > I love watching Minshew. He’s really fun. But I wouldn’t want him as my starter. He’s like a Ryan Fitzpatrick; an interesting person, and he’ll be great at times, and just awful many other times. I love Minshew, too – he’s fun and charismatic, and would definitely be someone I’d like to have a beer with. But, as I read someone on Reddit comment about him the other day, while he seems to have a fairly high floor, talent-wise, he also has a fairly low ceiling. While he seems to maybe be less likely to make dumb mistakes than some other not-quite-starter-level NFL quarterbacks, he doesn’t have a strong arm, and he’s not likely to be able to pull off the great plays, either. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2022, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/107 "2022-03-16T20:40:48Z")
> [@SwissMan](#): > > Of course, what happens with the Browns if they don’t win the Deshaun Watson sweepstakes? In that case, they end up the same team they’ve been for the entirety of the 21st century - a team continually in search of the next great QB ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/108 "2022-03-17T00:50:51Z")
Von Miller to Buffalo. Lock in your SB bets now! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/109 "2022-03-17T23:32:17Z")
What is going on with prima-donna/fragile flower NFL QBs? Kyler Murray throws an social media hissy fit, now Baker Mayfield passive aggressively “thanks” the Cleveland fans and wants a trade because the Browns (rightfully so) aren’t willing to meet his long-term contract demands at this point. And Aaron Rodgers is still being Aaron Rodgers. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/110 "2022-03-17T23:50:37Z")
The Packers are said to be trading WR Davante Adams to the Raiders, for two 2022 draft choices, including the Raiders’ first-round pick. It also appears that the Raiders have agreed to terms with Adams on a five-year contract. Speaking as a Packer fan: well, crap. ☹ > **[Packers ship star WR Adams to Raiders for picks](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33529955/green-bay-packers-trading-davante-adams-las-vegas-raiders)** > > In a blockbuster trade, the Raiders acquired Davante Adams from the Packers for two 2022 draft picks, including their first-rounder. Las Vegas is giving the star receiver a new 5-year contract, a source told ESPN. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2022, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/111 "2022-03-18T02:30:07Z")
From what I’ve read, the Packers were willing to match the Raiders offer, but Adams wanted to leave. So, thanks for all those years, Davante. While some veterans leave their longtime team for more money or to chase a Super Bowl ring, you get to play for a team that has made the playoffs twice in 19 years. Good luck. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2022, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/112 "2022-03-18T02:37:32Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > you get to play for a team that has made the playoffs twice in 19 years. Good luck. With a bizarre owner, a dysfunctional culture, and a series of tragic and ill-considered incidents involving players over the past couple of years. I like Adams a great deal, I’m very sad to see him leave Green Bay, and I wish him all the best, but I’m kinda stunned that Vegas was his choice. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2022, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/113 "2022-03-18T03:15:59Z")
A bit more on the Adams trade, from the Green Bay Press-Gazette: - The Packers will be getting the Raiders first-round pick (#22 overall) and second-round pick (#53 overall) in this year’s draft. - Adams has signed a five-year, $141.25 million contract with Las Vegas, making him the highest-paid receiver in the league. - The Raiders’ quarterback, Derek Carr, was Adams’ teammate at Fresno State, and that appears to have been a factor in Adams wanting to leave Green Bay. > **[Packers trading star receiver Davante Adams to Raiders for two 2022 draft...](https://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2022/03/17/packers-trading-davante-adams-raiders-draft-picks-reports-say/9440661002/)** > > Davante Adams is going to Las Vegas in a blockbuster trade. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2022, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/114 "2022-03-18T04:30:15Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > The Raiders’ quarterback, Derek Carr, was Adams’ teammate at Fresno State, and that appears to have been a factor in Adams wanting to leave Green Bay. And, according to Ian Rapoport, Adams just bought a house in Vegas next door to Carr’s house. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2022, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/115 "2022-03-18T06:11:21Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > With a bizarre owner What makes you say that? [![](https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/IOaxC7TcmOUcyQMAzB6IPF0_NAI=/0x0:1469x2160/920x613/filters:focal(651x691:885x925):format(webp)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/67078668/144928399.jpg.0.jpg) ](https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/IOaxC7TcmOUcyQMAzB6IPF0_NAI=/0x0:1469x2160/920x613/filters:focal(651x691:885x925):format(webp)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/67078668/144928399.jpg.0.jpg) Oh yeah, that’s right. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2022, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/116 "2022-03-18T15:05:06Z")
That man frightens me in a way I can’t articulate. ---
**Author:** ![PackerMan2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/packerman2/32/2894_2.png) [@PackerMan2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PackerMan2)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2022, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/117 "2022-03-18T18:45:07Z")
I really think the Carr thing was the biggest reason. Plus, they were barely able to get under the cap with Rodgers deal. So in order to pay him the deal he wanted, they would have cut somewhere else. Also, I love GB, but for a young millionaire I’d rather be in Vegas (the town not the football team). I was disappointed at first, but getting a 1 and a 2 for one year of his production is probably worth it. I looked at some mocks and saw who was projected around that pick. Many have Treylon Burks from Arkansas. He is a stud. I could see him having Jamar Chase type impact for a lot less money and could allow them to upgrade the OL. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2022, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/118 "2022-03-18T20:25:35Z")
After finalizing his choice to the Saints or Falcons, Deshaun Watson is now going to… the **Browns.** ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2022, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/119 "2022-03-18T21:24:26Z")
So, Watson to the Browns, and possibly Mayfield to the Colts. Watson is going to be paid $46 million a year for the next 5 years by the Browns, and that’s guaranteed money. It would be quite Browns-ish if Watson now faces severe discipline from the NFL, possibly including suspension, and for Watson to also likely be injured or otherwise decline. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2022, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634/120 "2022-03-18T21:29:09Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > It would be quite Browns-ish if Watson now faces severe discipline from the NFL, possibly including suspension, and for Watson to also likely be injured or otherwise decline. It would sort of fit the Browns paradigm, wouldn’t it? ☹ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2022/960634.md?page=7)