# NFL Offseason 2024 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** football-nfl\ **Created:** [April 29, 2024, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2024/1000924 "2024-04-29T15:18:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2024, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2024/1000924/41 "2024-05-26T18:32:58Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > One wonders if Harrison Butker will attend, and, if he does, will have anything to say. Probably shock to learn that Biden’s wife is a doctor. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2024, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2024/1000924/42 "2024-05-26T18:39:32Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Probably shock to learn that Biden’s wife is a doctor. Butker’s own mother is a [Clinical Medical Physicist, Department of Radiation Oncology](https://med.emory.edu/departments/radiation-oncology/divisions/medical-physics/faculty-and-staff.html) at the Emory University School of Medicine. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2024, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2024/1000924/43 "2024-05-26T19:13:00Z")
That apple sure rolled pretty far from the tree then. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2024, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2024/1000924/44 "2024-05-27T03:26:27Z")
Yeah, but that’s at least medicine-tangential. Biden has a doctorate in education. There’s already been a [controversy](https://kffhealthnews.org/morning-breakout/jill-biden-at-center-of-flap-over-who-gets-to-be-called-doctor/) about her calling herself a doctor. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2024/1000924/45 "2024-05-28T20:28:43Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > Yeah, but that’s at least medicine-tangential. Biden has a doctorate in education. So Jill Biden is a _real_ doctor in other words, since the original doctorates were for academic pursuits, medical doctorates are a more recent thing. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2024/1000924/46 "2024-05-28T20:49:02Z")
Yeah, but you’ll never convince _them_ of that. To them, doctors = medicine, and that’s it, and that’s all. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2024/1000924/47 "2024-05-28T21:06:28Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > Yeah, but you’ll never convince _them_ of that. True. Facts aren’t as important as opinions. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2024, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2024/1000924/48 "2024-06-03T19:07:29Z")
Larry Allen has died. > **[Cowboys Hall of Famer Allen dies suddenly at 52](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/40269999/cowboys-hall-famer-larry-allen-dies-suddenly-age-52)** > > Cowboys Hall of Fame offensive lineman Larry Allen died suddenly Sunday while on vacation with his family in Mexico, the team announced Monday. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2024, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2024/1000924/49 "2024-06-05T21:45:41Z")
Colts [safety Daniel Scott](https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/colts-player-suffers-a-season-ending-injury-at-otas-for-the-second-straight-year-to-start-his-nfl-career/) suffers a season-ending injury in OTAs for the second straight year. His rookie year, he tore his ACL. This off-season, he ruptured his Achilles tendon. In two seasons with the Colts, he’s yet to play a single snap. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2024, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2024/1000924/50 "2024-06-05T22:02:03Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > In two seasons with the Colts, he’s yet to play a single snap. It sounds like he got at least one, with his ACL. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2024, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2024/1000924/51 "2024-06-05T22:51:17Z")
You go to your room and think about what you’ve done. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2024/1000924/52 "2024-06-13T16:18:57Z")
The NFL concluded its investigation of the Falcons for illegally tampering with Kirk Cousins, Darnell Mooney, and Charlie Woerner. They fined the Falcons $250,000, fined the GM $50,000 and docked them a fifth round 2025 draft pick. In addition, the NFL investigated the Eagles for tampering with Saquon Barkley, but didn’t find enough evidence to take any action. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2024/1000924/53 "2024-06-13T16:28:00Z")
The monetary penalties seem toothless. The draft pick is the only thing they really care about. If they wanted to actually punish them, they’d forget the fines and cut their cap space instead. Seems like that would be a more appropriate punishment for tampering. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2024/1000924/54 "2024-06-13T17:21:49Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > If they wanted to actually punish them, they’d forget the fines and cut their cap space instead. Seems like that would be a more appropriate punishment for tampering. I agree, to me that seems like an extremely appropriate penalty that will make an actual impact. I have to remind myself that the NFL is run by the owners, so all of this ultimately comes back to a consensus agreement between them, where they compromise on how to handle disputes between each other. You always need to keep that in mind when trying to figure out how they determine what’s fair. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2024/1000924/55 "2024-06-13T23:16:19Z")
The Jaguars and Trevor Lawrence have agreed on a [5 year, $275 million](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/40345163/source-jaguars-qb-trevor-lawrence-agree-five-year-275m-deal) contract extension. $200 million guaranteed, with $142 million received at the signing. ---
**Author:** ![TheGunIsMightierThanThePen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thegunismightierthanthepen/32/2981_2.png) [@TheGunIsMightierThanThePen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheGunIsMightierThanThePen)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2024/1000924/56 "2024-06-13T23:48:41Z")
Agreed that fines are merely a slap on the wrist, but there’s no way the players will consent to giving up a slice of the pie, and I expect the NFL Players Association to fight a salary cap reduction tooth and nail. Now, if the NFL upped the fines, and had a policy that the fines are to be evenly apportioned to the team’s intradivisional rivals (with the caveat that the rivals must spend this money on player salaries within a certain time frame), then that might provide slightly more incentive for teams to toe the line. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2024/1000924/57 "2024-06-14T19:13:31Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > The NFL concluded its investigation of the Falcons for illegally tampering with Kirk Cousins, Darnell Mooney, and Charlie Woerner. They fined the Falcons $250,000, fined the GM $50,000 and docked them a fifth round 2025 draft pick. I don’t understand this. The Dolphins lost a 1st and 3rd round pick and had $2M in total fines for trying, and failing, to poach Brady and Payton. I can appreciate that the Dolphins actions were far more egregious and was an ongoing violation as opposed to jumping the gun on FA by a couple days, but the difference between the draft pick penalty is massive. In 2016 the Chiefs got tagged for a 3rd and a 6th round pick for tampering with Maclin in what seems like a very similar violation to the Cousins one. Further back the Lions and Chiefs had a 5th and 6th round pick swap to settle a tampering case, and the 49ers lost a 5th rounder plus a 3rd round pick swap with the Bears for tampering with Lance Briggs. The Falcons penalty seems like the softest one applied since the Detroit/Chiefs one in 2010. I also find it weird that in some cases the original team seems to benefit from the penalty and in others they don’t, wish I knew what logic applied there. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2024/1000924/58 "2024-06-14T20:12:16Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > wish I knew what logic applied there Found the problem. No such thing as logic in the NFL, just a roulette wheel of penalties. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2024/1000924/59 "2024-06-14T21:28:25Z")
The only thing I can figure is someone said, “Isn’t being the Falcons already punishment enough?!” ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2024/1000924/60 "2024-06-14T21:48:13Z")
That was my thought as well. Maybe there’s a mercy clause for teams that suck. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2024/1000924.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-offseason-2024/1000924.md?page=4)