# NFL - PLAYOFFS - SUPER BOWL full of Jelly **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [January 30, 2020, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-playoffs-super-bowl-full-of-jelly/847221 "2020-01-30T15:01:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2020, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-playoffs-super-bowl-full-of-jelly/847221/101 "2020-02-03T03:11:52Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > Great game all the same, well done to the Chiefs. 🙂 Seconded! ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2020, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-playoffs-super-bowl-full-of-jelly/847221/102 "2020-02-03T03:15:53Z")
Yeah this was a great game. So much better than last year. Both teams did well, but one managed to surge late and win it. It’s practically the opposite of last year which was a competition of which side was going to be less terrible. ---
**Author:** ![racepug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@racepug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racepug)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2020, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-playoffs-super-bowl-full-of-jelly/847221/103 "2020-02-03T03:16:37Z")
Wellp - I don’t quite know what the hell happened there in the 4th quarter. I thought for sure after that 2nd Mahomes pick that the “Chefs” were doomed. I was then exiled from my T.V. room and next thing I knew the “Chefs” were up by 4. Congratulations to the Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes, et al. It’s been a LOOOOOONG wait for them to lift the Lombardi Trophy, again. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2020, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-playoffs-super-bowl-full-of-jelly/847221/104 "2020-02-03T03:22:48Z")
Great game! Congrats Chiefs! It’s been a good year for Missouri teams to break fifty year droughts. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2020, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-playoffs-super-bowl-full-of-jelly/847221/105 "2020-02-03T03:29:26Z")
That 44-yard pass to Hill on 3rd-and-15 was the decisive point of the game. Kansas City was trailing by ten points in the fourth quarter. A sack or incompletion there and the Chiefs were probably cooked for good. ---
**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-playoffs-super-bowl-full-of-jelly/847221/106 "2020-02-03T03:36:30Z")
I’m happy to see the Chiefs win, and for Andy Reid to get his Super Bowl victory. I especially enjoyed seeing how he managed the clock on the last Chiefs possession given his reputation for blowing games due to poor clock management :). ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2020, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-playoffs-super-bowl-full-of-jelly/847221/107 "2020-02-03T03:37:51Z")
You can’t give up on an NFL game like you could in the past. The passing game is so accurate and sophisticated that you have to assume that the losing team still has a chance even if they’re 10-15 points down. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2020, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-playoffs-super-bowl-full-of-jelly/847221/108 "2020-02-03T03:42:02Z")
Trivia: with this result (if I am very much mistaken) the A-side has come even with the N-side with 27 wins each (though it looks like the N-side leads on the spread by 7). ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2020, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-playoffs-super-bowl-full-of-jelly/847221/109 "2020-02-03T03:53:06Z")
I lay down to go to bed, when it was 20-10 against the Chiefs. I’m in Topeka, about 60? miles away from KC, so everyone is Chiefs fans. Not too much later I start heariing fireworks going off, all OVER, so I get up to peek outside, wondering what’s going on. I turn the TV back on and see that yet again KC has come from behind and it’s the Chiefs 10 points ahead. ---
**Author:** ![racepug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@racepug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racepug)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2020, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-playoffs-super-bowl-full-of-jelly/847221/110 "2020-02-03T03:55:42Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Don’t get me wrong: I can do without the Harbaugh intensity. I had a major debate with some Bay Area peeps back in 2014 when he left. They said “ZOMG! Harbaugh’s out, Jed York’s the devil!” I agreed Harbaugh was a great coach but not as great as he believed he was. **Harbaugh gets on everyone’s nerves after year 3, which is why I think this might be his last year in Ann Arbor.** He might pull a Lane Kiffin and coach at some rinky dink school like Delaware and turn in a 9-2 or 19-1 season and play the Pinstripe Bowl, but he can’t handle big time. > > Mindless rant over. Off topic but his team keeps losing to that of THE Ohio State University and generally in embarrassing fashion. As long as that keeps happening he can stay there as long as he wants to as far as I’m concerned. ---
**Author:** ![racepug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@racepug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racepug)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2020, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-playoffs-super-bowl-full-of-jelly/847221/111 "2020-02-03T03:59:03Z")
> [@Baker](#): > > I lay down to go to bed, when it was 20-10 against the Chiefs. I’m in Topeka, about 60? miles away from KC, so everyone is Chiefs fans. > > Not too much later I start heariing fireworks going off, all OVER, so I get up to peek outside, wondering what’s going on. I turn the TV back on and see that yet again KC has come from behind and it’s the Chiefs 10 points ahead. Yeah, the 49ers team that dominated in the first half of the season and again in the N.F.C. portion of the playoffs disappeared at the end of the game. Oh, well. ---
**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2020, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-playoffs-super-bowl-full-of-jelly/847221/112 "2020-02-03T04:11:19Z")
I live in Kansas City and there are fireworks going off everywhere! ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2020, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-playoffs-super-bowl-full-of-jelly/847221/113 "2020-02-03T04:36:00Z")
Nice. I had no skin in the game, but was pulling for the Chiefs for … I don’t even know why. Part of me would have been happy for Robbie Gould to get a well-deserved Super Bowl ring but, I dunno. I just was empathizing with KC more. Must be some Midwestern thing. Anyhow, fun game. And to think the Bears could have had Mahomes. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2020, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-playoffs-super-bowl-full-of-jelly/847221/114 "2020-02-03T05:15:14Z")
I watched the second half in a local bar with a whole lot of other Chiefs fans. It was rather quiet for a good while. But then it got really really loud for a long time. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2020, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-playoffs-super-bowl-full-of-jelly/847221/115 "2020-02-03T07:03:10Z")
> [@duality72](#): > > I agree. The defender’s only fault seemed to be that he didn’t dematerialize when the ball was thrown into him. Do defenders have zero rights to occupy their space on the field? They CAN’T screen the receiver with their body while also not looking for the ball. That’s been a basic PI rule like forever. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2020, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-playoffs-super-bowl-full-of-jelly/847221/116 "2020-02-03T07:04:56Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > They CAN’T screen the receiver with their body while also not looking for the ball. That’s been a basic PI rule like forever. This. If the defender had been turned around and looking at the ball, it would have been different. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2020, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-playoffs-super-bowl-full-of-jelly/847221/117 "2020-02-03T13:24:02Z")
Thinking on it a bit, I’m thinking maybe Kyle Shanahan doesn’t trust Jimmy Garoppolo to win his teams games. Shanahan’s refusal to use timeouts at the end of the first half and the poor play of Garoppolo in the fourth quarter indicates, to me at least, that while he’s fine at running the play action offense, Shanahan doesn’t think Jimmy is a “win because of” QB. Jimmy G. had 4.7 air yards per completion in the game, which would have been the 4th lowest in the NFL regular season. That’s a lot of quick, easy passes. And when he faced pressure, Jimmy was awful, going 1 for 9 for 20 yards and 2 interceptions when under pressure. His overthrow of Sanders and not seeing an open Kittle on a huge 3rd down cemented his poor play in the 4th quarter. I think Shanahan made some mistakes (too conservative at the end of the first half and only 10 runs in the second half), but I’m not sure that loss is on him. Luckily, Garoppolo is only 26 starts into his career and he is capable of throwing a very pretty ball (that pass to Kittle on the OPI was very pretty indeed). He’ll have much more time to develop and maybe he’ll become a win because of QB. He just didn’t show it last night. ---
**Author:** ![zimaane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a3d4f5/32.png) [@zimaane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zimaane)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2020, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-playoffs-super-bowl-full-of-jelly/847221/118 "2020-02-03T13:43:00Z")
Even when Garoppolo completed a pass, they sometimes were thrown so inaccurately that the receiver had to slow down to catch them, and got tackled immediately. If the passes were out in front of the receiver, he could have gotten some yardage after the catch. I don’t see Jimmy G. ever being more than an average QB. Although when you have a Kittle on your team, that’s good enough to get to the SB. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2020, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-playoffs-super-bowl-full-of-jelly/847221/119 "2020-02-03T15:15:49Z")
> [@zimaane](#): > > I don’t see Jimmy G. ever being more than an average QB. Although when you have a Kittle on your team, that’s good enough to get to the SB. A league-leading defense also helps. The long pass to Sanders that Garoppolo overthrew was a killer. He gave the receiver no chance to catch the ball. Even if he underthrows it, the play probably results in a defensive pass interference penalty. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2020, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-playoffs-super-bowl-full-of-jelly/847221/120 "2020-02-03T15:43:22Z")
End of game hijinks - Mahomes wouldn’t take an immediate knee and insisted on dancing to (I assume) run some clock. Reid kept calling him over and I assume saying “take a gosh-darned knee”. And what was up with that last ballistic pass? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-playoffs-super-bowl-full-of-jelly/847221.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-playoffs-super-bowl-full-of-jelly/847221.md?page=7)