# NFL playoffs

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-playoffs/431176>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [December 25, 2007, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-playoffs/431176 "2007-12-25T03:01:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![flickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7bcc69/32.png) [@flickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flickster)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-playoffs/431176/101 "2008-01-14T01:58:09Z")

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Loved the expression on Jerry Jones’ face at the end of the game 😛

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**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-playoffs/431176/102 "2008-01-14T02:02:08Z")

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[QUOTE=flickster]  
Loved the expression on Jerry Jones’ face at the end of the game 😛  
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Me too.

It pretty much made up for the otherwise brutal weekend I’ve had.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-playoffs/431176/103 "2008-01-14T02:31:14Z")

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So nobody is giving the Bolts any credit for ditching the Colts? I think San Diego can actually beat the Patriots, and I hope that happens, because then at least the Superbowl will be interesting rather than the Pats blowing out the NFC team.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-playoffs/431176/104 "2008-01-14T02:34:47Z")

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> [@flickster](#):
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> Loved the expression on Jerry Jones’ face at the end of the game

Even better was TO crying at the post-game press conference. (EDIT: Some guy from the [giants.com](http://giants.com) boards just posted [this youtube video](http://youtube.com/watch?v=LSh8kRZEBUQ) of it.)

Such a great ending to that game. During the last four or five Cowboys plays, I was so tense I couldn’t sit still. I actually had to stand up and rock back and forth. Exquisite torture.

As Rich Eisen said, Eli is the last Manning standing. A stat I find interesting is the post-season passer rating differential. Think of it like a measure of “clutch” for QBs. You take their career post-season passer rating and subtract their regular season passer rating. A negative number means they choke in the clutch, while a positive number means they step up.

Peyton Manning: -10.3  
Eli Manning: +14.9

I find the differential even more interesting than the fact that Eli (88.3) has a better straight-up playoff passer rating than Peyton (84.1).

Artie Lang had a great (funny) line about Eli: “the Giants really got the Gummo Marx of that family.” I laughed out loud when I heard it, but Eli is making him eat his words.

Go Giants!

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**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-playoffs/431176/105 "2008-01-14T02:48:37Z")

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[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic]  
I’m disappointed that the Cowboys laid an egg today. That means we’ll probably have to endure the Packers in the Superbowl. Let the Favre cocksucking begin. America’s only speck hope for a Favre-free Superbowl rests on the fact that Favre is a world class choke artist who has a great chance of pissing down his leg against the Giants.

Even if he makes, there is still the comfort of knowing the Packers wil get raped and sodomized by the patriots. The game will be over after the 1st quarter.  
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Wow, such vitriol. The guy just likes playing football. And for this you get THAT resentful? :eek:

I’m having to eat words this season, and loving it. I wanted Favre to quit instead of coming back. His last few seasons have been anything but enjoyable; too many interceptions, too many bad decisions, too much trying to do it all himself. But he really has managed to get back the approach he had during his glory years of the mid-90s. Interceptions down, bad choices limited, good throws when really needed. Very few quarterbacks, even in the NFL, would have managed that underhand flip in the first half; most would have been sacked, or fallen, or tried to continue running.

If the Giants play like they did tonight against the Packers, they will be going home. The defense wasn’t bad, but it wasn’t great, either, and Favre isn’t Romo.

Fun to watch the Cowboys suffer from having someone not quite good enough. Makes up for all those years of Staubach and Aikman and all the others… 😃

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**Author:** ![Xema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9de053/32.png) [@Xema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xema)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-playoffs/431176/106 "2008-01-14T03:48:10Z")

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Is it significant that all of the teams who coasted at the end of the regular season are now eliminated?

It’s hard to argue with the logic of resting your starters in a meaningless final game, but it doesn’t really feel right. I like the idea that today’s result was the Giant’s reward for playing a tough game against the Pats, when they didn’t have to.

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-playoffs/431176/107 "2008-01-14T04:19:03Z")

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[QUOTE=Xema]  
Is it significant that all of the teams who coasted at the end of the regular season are now eliminated?  
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This could just be selection bias on my part but this seems to happen a lot. The only thing I can figure is that timing is so important in football, and losing even a little bit of your edge can prove fatal in the playoffs.

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**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-playoffs/431176/108 "2008-01-14T11:42:34Z")

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I was happy to see the Pack win and happy to see the Cowboys lose. That only means that someone needs to be The Pats to make me really happy!

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**Author:** ![Xema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9de053/32.png) [@Xema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xema)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-playoffs/431176/109 "2008-01-14T15:52:11Z")

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[QUOTE=Khadaji]  
… someone needs to be The Pats  
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Presumably a New England fan who’s into Zen meditation.

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**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-playoffs/431176/110 "2008-01-14T16:37:13Z")

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[QUOTE=Xema]  
Presumably a New England fan who’s into Zen meditation.  
[/QUOTE]

lol. Well, of course, I meant \*beat \*the Pats…

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-playoffs/431176/111 "2008-01-14T18:43:28Z")

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I’m so damn torn…while I have no great love for the Pats, I do respect their accomplishments. However, I loate the Chargers, all they stand for, and every one of their indifferent, crybaby fans.

Now, the Giants making the Super Bowl is now a foregone conclusion in my book, so it’s time to figure out who my beloved Big Blue gets to take on in Glendale.

That said, I’ll be cheering San D like a mofo next weekend. The prospect of having a stadium filled to the rafters with Giants fans is too perfect. After all, Glendale is a good 350 miles from San Diego – who could blame Chargers “fans” for not wanting to make such a long, arduous trek just for a football game?

Since the Pats have developed a fan base in the past few years, a New England win would mean less seats for Giants fans – Go Chargers!!

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-playoffs/431176/112 "2008-01-14T19:12:41Z")

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[QUOTE=Ellis Dee]  
Even better was TO crying at the post-game press conference. (EDIT: Some guy from the [giants.com](http://giants.com) boards just posted [this youtube video](http://youtube.com/watch?v=LSh8kRZEBUQ) of it.)  
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I hate TO a ton, and enjoy watching him lose at every opportunity. But the guys who taped that make Giant’s fans sound like douchebags.

> [@Ellis Dee](#):
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> Go Giants!

Go Pack!

I was actually hoping for another shot against Dallas, rather than having to beat the Giants… AGAIN, but I’ll take the easier win at home. I think the Packers take it by 10.

As for the AFC, it’s now down to two teams I absolutely abhor. Hate the Patriots. I used to like the Chargers, but with Merriman’s drug use and mouth, and LT’s whining, I’m destined to have a team I hate playing the Pack in the Super Bowl. Which makes it all the nicer.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-playoffs/431176/113 "2008-01-14T19:14:30Z")

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[QUOTE=Hal Briston]  
Now, the Giants making the Super Bowl is now a foregone conclusion in my book,  
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So you enjoy fiction.

Go Pack!

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**Author:** ![RogueRacer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7ab992/32.png) [@RogueRacer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RogueRacer)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-playoffs/431176/114 "2008-01-14T19:16:44Z")

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[QUOTE=DSYoungEsq]  
Wow, such vitriol. The guy just likes playing football. And for this you get THAT resentful? :eek:  
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You just have to remember where **DtC** is coming from. It seems he pisses purple and gold. The never ending ways that his team finds to disappoint makes him bitter.

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-playoffs/431176/115 "2008-01-14T19:18:31Z")

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[QUOTE=Hal Briston]  
However, I loate the Chargers, all they stand for, and every one of their indifferent, crybaby fans.  
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😕

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-playoffs/431176/116 "2008-01-14T19:27:17Z")

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[QUOTE=DSYoungEsq]  
Wow, such vitriol. The guy just likes playing football. And for this you get THAT resentful? :eek:  
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[Tony Kornheiser]

Brett Favre doesn’t just **like** playing football, he **loves** it. Did you see how much fun he was having out there? It’s like he was playing in his backyard, throwing the ol’ pigskin around with his friends just for the love of the game. He was just like a little kid, having a blast. Seriously, who else has that much fun out there?

[/TK]

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-playoffs/431176/117 "2008-01-14T19:34:54Z")

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[QUOTE=Hal Briston]  
Now, the **GIANTS** making the Super Bowl is now a foregone conclusion in my book…  
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Sir, I like the way you think. Have you booked your non-refundable flight yet?

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-playoffs/431176/118 "2008-01-14T19:36:43Z")

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[QUOTE=Hamlet]  
I was actually hoping for another shot against Dallas, rather than having to beat the Giants… AGAIN, but I’ll take the easier win at home. I think the Packers take it by 10.  
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You do realize that Dallas beat the Giants at home, AND away this year, and still lost.

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**Author:** ![Xema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9de053/32.png) [@Xema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xema)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-playoffs/431176/119 "2008-01-14T19:37:46Z")

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[QUOTE=Hal Briston]  
the Giants making the Super Bowl is now a foregone conclusion in my book  
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I’d like to hear how you work that out. I give them a decent chance, but it’s hard to see how the Packers in Green Bay will be an easy win. While the Giants performed well against the Cowboys, they didn’t actually stomp them.

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**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2008, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-playoffs/431176/120 "2008-01-14T20:32:17Z")

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[QUOTE=Hal Briston]  
I loate the Chargers, all they stand for, and every one of their indifferent, crybaby fans.  
[/QUOTE]  
Even me? The hell you say! 🙂

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