# NFL Predictions Week 12 **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [November 28, 2001, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-predictions-week-12/95761 "2001-11-28T19:15:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2001, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-predictions-week-12/95761/41 "2001-12-01T12:10:31Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by bugman \* > My question is who else do I start out of this terrible trio: Chris Carter, Troy Brown or Michael Westbrook? I agree, not Westbrook. The Redskins’ offense isn’t generating a lot of passing yards, and Banks seems to prefer to throw to Gardner and even Lockett. You might get lucky against Dallas, but it isn’t the way to bet. On the whole, I don’t look to the Redskins’ passing/receiving corps for good fantasy numbers this year. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Big\_Cheese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@The\_Big\_Cheese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Big_Cheese)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2001, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-predictions-week-12/95761/42 "2001-12-01T12:31:09Z")
Dumb question: what does ATS and OMNI mean? Lions:Sure, they’re going to win before the year is out, maybe two, three games actually. They’re not _that_ bad. BUT, do you want to pick them every week thinking this is going to be the week?? Methinks you’ll be wrong more often than not. ---
**Author:** ![Montfort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Montfort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Montfort)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2001, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-predictions-week-12/95761/43 "2001-12-01T15:28:57Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by The Big Cheese \* > **Dumb question: what does ATS and OMNI mean?** It’s a little game us regulars are doing here in Gazoo’s thread this season. ATS means you pick five teams that will cover the spread (ATS = against the spread), and an OMNI pick is your guarranteed “they will win” straight-up pick each week. The catch is you can’t use the same team twice, so I’m saving the Rams as my OMNI pick for just when I might need them. ---
**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2001, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-predictions-week-12/95761/44 "2001-12-01T17:14:38Z")
Thems the rules? I though you couldn’t use the same team twice in the same week. Example, If I chose the Bears to cover the spread then they cannot be my OMNI pick of the week. Am I wrong? ---
**Author:** ![Gazoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ce73a5/32.png) [@Gazoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gazoo)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2001, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-predictions-week-12/95761/45 "2001-12-01T17:22:03Z")
ATS - means “against the spread.” OMNI - are your five teams that win ATS (in honor of Omniscient’s competition where he has to nail five picks in one week against the pread to win the pot.) The SURE pick is a straight-up pick that you are positive will win this week. In the SURE picking, you’re only supposed to use a team once, so if you used STL in week 9 you can’t use them again the rest of the season. You CAN have an OMNI pick and a SURE pick that are the same in the same week. I have continued to make my SURE pick (even though I was eliminated when ATL beat GB), just for the heck of it. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2001, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-predictions-week-12/95761/46 "2001-12-03T00:22:07Z")
Well, so much for **my** powers of prognostication. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Gazoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ce73a5/32.png) [@Gazoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gazoo)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2001, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-predictions-week-12/95761/47 "2001-12-03T00:31:01Z")
\*Originally posted by Gazoo \* **Eagles 24 at Chiefs 16** (Eagles by 3) So far, so good. **Broncos 17 at Dolphins 27** ('Phins by 3) Ok, now we’re starting to roll. **Colts 24 at Ravens 27** (Ravens by 7) Ok, got it straight up, missed ATS. **Panthers 10 at Saints 31** (Saints by 10) Ditto. **Vikings 17 at Steelers 27** (Steelers by 7) Got it on both counts. **Patriots 21 at Jets 20** (Jets by 3) Ditto. **Rams 35 at Falcons 20** (Rams by 8) “Time for that Ram offensive machine to come back to life.” Umm, yeah. **Bucs 17 at Bengals 10** (Bucs by 6) Again, got it right staight up, missed ATS. **Titans 24 at Browns 23** (Browns by 1) Wow. **Lions 10 at Bears 24** (Bears by 7 1/2) Right SU, wrong ATS. **Chargers 23 at Seahawks 20** (Seattle by 3) D’oh! **Cardinals 20 at Raiders 28** (Raiders by 13) Right ATS, headed to OT. **Cowboys 6 at Redskins 17** ('Skins by 8 1/2) Got it wrong, but boy…the 'Skins just suck. OMNI Picks: Hmm, I’ll go with PHI, NO, STL, WAS, and CHI. **(Not so good)** SURE pick: New Orleans **(Whew!)** ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2001, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-predictions-week-12/95761/48 "2001-12-03T00:45:22Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Montfort \* > \*\*1. St. Louis > 2. Oakland > 3. San Francisco > 4. Miami > 5. New Jersey Jets > 6. Chicago > 7. Cleveland > 8. Baltimore > 9. Pittsburgh > 10. Philadelphia > 11. Atlanta > 12. New England > > I’m tempted to put Detroit on that list, too, but I think I’ve baited my good friend Kim enough. 🙂 \*\* Oh, I just thought of another team that is better than the Redskins… **Cowboys 20 Redskins 14** ---
**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2001, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-predictions-week-12/95761/49 "2001-12-03T01:03:41Z")
Raiders lose, Jets lose. Pittsburgh is setting pretty atop the AFC now. I am one happy camper tonight. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Gazoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ce73a5/32.png) [@Gazoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gazoo)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2001, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-predictions-week-12/95761/50 "2001-12-03T01:11:16Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by mouthbreather \* > \*\*Raiders lose, Jets lose. > > Pittsburgh is setting pretty atop the AFC now. I am one happy camper tonight. 🆒 \*\* And Miami lies waiting… ---
**Author:** ![Montfort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Montfort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Montfort)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2001, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-predictions-week-12/95761/51 "2001-12-03T14:32:39Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by RTFirefly \* > \*\*My prediction: on Sunday, the Redskins won’t just beat the Cowboys - they’ll dismantle them. \*\* You were saying? 😃 Thanks for the fantasy help, everyone. I dismantled my opponent (115-43, going into tonight’s game which neither of us have a major stake in). And, assuming GB wins tonight, I’m going to win a week for the first time in the SDMB Pick’em league, over at Yahoo. I’m back on top, too. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2001, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-predictions-week-12/95761/52 "2001-12-03T14:55:43Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Montfort \* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by RTFirefly \* > > My prediction: on Sunday, the Redskins won’t just beat the Cowboys - they’ll dismantle them. > > You were saying? 😃 It happened - but unfortunately the Cowboys reassembled themselves so quickly that nobody saw it. 😉 Gotta hand it to them. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2001, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-predictions-week-12/95761/53 "2001-12-03T15:00:54Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Montfort \* > \*\* > > And, assuming GB wins tonight, I’m going to win a week for the first time in the SDMB Pick’em league, over at Yahoo. I’m back on top, too. \*\* I was kind of hoping you would win the season without ever winning a week. Sort of a tortoise and hare kind of thing. How many points do you have on GB tonight? I put 7, will have 92 this week if the Pack come through. Got hurt by choosing the Redskins, which anyway left a bad taste in my mouth, and 14 on the Raiders. Only missed two others so far straight up, Tenn/Cle and Phi/KC. ---
**Author:** ![Montfort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Montfort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Montfort)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2001, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-predictions-week-12/95761/54 "2001-12-03T15:26:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by ShibbOleth \* > \*\*I was kind of hoping you would win the season without ever winning a week. Sort of a tortoise and hare kind of thing. How many points do you have on GB tonight? \*\* 11, I think. And, you know, I was kinda hoping I’d win it all that way, too. But, I’m not complaining. I only got three games wrong straight-up this weekend, too. ---
**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2001, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-predictions-week-12/95761/55 "2001-12-03T15:31:48Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by mouthbreather \* > \*\*ATS: > > Bears > Browns (even though I’m cheering for TEN) > Colts > Dolphins > Eagles > \*\* 2-3 ATS, damn. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2001, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-predictions-week-12/95761/56 "2001-12-03T21:17:45Z")
For once the 3 games I felt pretty good about went my way, evidenced by the fact that I reused 3 of them for both me and my proxy picks. All three of those are still alive. Of course the other 2 I chose for myself went south, and the other two I picked for my roomate were winners. Ironic. I’ll be pulling for GB tonite, if they win I’ll have gotten 5 right for the first time since I started, we’re spliting his pot (his money, my picks) so a GB victory brings the two of us to even (pays for the entry fee) assuming his picks are the only winner of 30 or so. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-predictions-week-12/95761.md?page=2)