# NFL Preseason Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 12, 2016, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-preseason-discussion/762577 "2016-08-12T17:18:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2016, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-preseason-discussion/762577/41 "2016-08-24T19:06:03Z")
I think the Browns may be exciting to watch this year ala 2007. For fucks sake that was a decade ago. RG3 throws a beautiful deep ball, and Gordon/Pryor/Coleman are all guys who can burn a defense and come down with a deep ball. I think it’s going to be a big play offense with an awful defense. The missing ingredient to match 2007 was the amazing special teams play they had that year, it won’t be there this year, and the wins probably won’t either. But I could see 6-7 wins with some fun highlight plays every game. They drafted 5 receivers this year, which is kind of ridiculous, especially when they’ve basically had two “found” receivers come in this year. Gordon and Pryor are going to play, so they can’t even keep all their draft picks. Maybe they knew that and they were always planning to just take the 2-3 best of the bunch. The Browns went from absolute garbage last year, worst receiving corps in the league, to possibly having one of the best starting 3 with Gordon/Pryor/Coleman. The potential is there. Pretty nutty turnaround if it happens. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2016, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-preseason-discussion/762577/42 "2016-08-24T21:28:11Z")
> [@cg16](#): > > Talk to me in November Can it be October instead? That’s when they travel to Green Bay and I’ll watch them. ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2016, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-preseason-discussion/762577/43 "2016-08-24T21:28:18Z")
So LA traded the farm for a 57% completion rating, 3 sacks, 1 TD and a 69.5 passer rating? against second teamers, even? Could have saved all of those picks and gotten Prescott in the 4th and parked him behind Keenum and would still be better off. The #1 overall pick and he is currently the 3rd best QB on the freaking Rams! ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2016, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-preseason-discussion/762577/44 "2016-08-24T21:44:54Z")
You might want to suspend judgment for just a little longer than the second preseason game. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2016, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-preseason-discussion/762577/45 "2016-08-25T13:32:43Z")
Personally, I make all my decisions about my team’s long term future after the first preseason game. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2016, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-preseason-discussion/762577/46 "2016-08-25T16:26:15Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > The Browns went from absolute garbage last year, worst receiving corps in the league, to possibly having one of the best starting 3 with Gordon/Pryor/Coleman. I love preseason optimism! ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2016, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-preseason-discussion/762577/47 "2016-08-25T17:25:02Z")
They have 163 NFL receptions between the three of them. And they’ll still have two of those when Gordon is traded for a conditional fourth round pick. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2016, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-preseason-discussion/762577/48 "2016-08-25T20:07:52Z")
More Browns news: they traded their first round draft pick from 2013, Barkevious Mingo to the Patriots for a conditional 5th round pick next year. Mingo didn’t play much for the Browns last year, after a not-horrible 2014. And while I like Nate Orchard, and the Browns took Emmanuel Ogbah with their first pick in the second round this year to be an OLB, it’s not like they’re loaded with talent at OLB. But Mingo has certainly underacheived from being the #6 pick in the draft. Another reclamation project for the Patriots. But unless the Browns are complete idiots (always a possibility) and didn’t give Mingo the snaps for reasons other than he’s not great at football, I’m not sure this is going to have any impact for either team. Still, it’s probably good to get a 5th round draft pick for a guy you were seriously considering cutting anyway. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2016, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-preseason-discussion/762577/49 "2016-08-25T20:20:18Z")
Mingo made the all-name team every year since his rookie season but not much else. He was entirely ineffective as a pass rusher. He was actually a pretty good coverage LB. Meh. The similar guy the Pats stole from the Browns was Jabal Sheard, who they should’ve kept instead of drafting Mingo in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2016, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-preseason-discussion/762577/50 "2016-08-26T02:31:41Z")
Looks like Tony Romo is possibly done for after only his 3rd play of the preseason against the Seahawks. This time it’s his back. I think Romo is too fragile to play a full season, even under the best circumstances. The Cowboys should have made a greater effort to get a good backup. > **[WATCH: Tony Romo suffers back injury, but Jason Garrett says it's not serious](https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/watch-tony-romo-suffers-back-injury-but-jason-garrett-says-its-not-serious/)** > > Romo got sacked by the Seahawks, but eventually left the field on his own ---
**Author:** ![cg16](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@cg16](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cg16)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2016, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-preseason-discussion/762577/51 "2016-08-26T02:33:51Z")
> [@FlikTheBlue](#): > > Looks like Tony Romo is possibly done for after only his 3rd play of the preseason against the Seahawks. This time it’s his back. I think Romo is just to fragile to play a full season, even under the best circumstances. The Cowboys should have made a greater effort to get a good backup. > > [WATCH: Tony Romo suffers back injury, but Jason Garrett says it's not serious - CBSSports.com](http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/look-tony-romo-exits-game-after-suffering-back-injury/) Non-story ---
**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2016, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-preseason-discussion/762577/52 "2016-08-26T16:52:39Z")
> [@FlikTheBlue](#): > > The Cowboys should have made a greater effort to get a good backup. > > [WATCH: Tony Romo suffers back injury, but Jason Garrett says it's not serious - CBSSports.com](http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/look-tony-romo-exits-game-after-suffering-back-injury/) Yeah, starting with “Owner” all the way down to “ball boy”. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2016, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-preseason-discussion/762577/53 "2016-08-27T01:10:17Z")
I don’t know who that guy was the last 2 weeks, but this is definitely the RG3 I remember. Don’t get me wrong, I’d genuinely like to see him do well, I really would, but after watching his entire career to this point, I’m afraid this is just the player he is. Browns’ defense isn’t doing him any favors either. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2016, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-preseason-discussion/762577/54 "2016-08-27T01:22:05Z")
Winston is looking awesome tonight. 232 yards midway thru the second quarter. The TV gods are blessing me this week; I’m watching Winston tonight, and I get to see Mariota tomorrow. Where I live (west coast), I rarely see either team play. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2016, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-preseason-discussion/762577/55 "2016-08-27T02:28:17Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > Where I live (west coast), I rarely see either team play. And I’m getting tired of that. So, has anyone here subscribed to Gamepass? $100 for the whole season sounds pretty good, considering I pay $200/month for cable (and phone and inet) already. Is the picture quality and reliability OK? ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2016, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-preseason-discussion/762577/56 "2016-08-27T02:43:33Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > And I’m getting tired of that. > > So, has anyone here subscribed to Gamepass? $100 for the whole season sounds pretty good, considering I pay $200/month for cable (and phone and inet) already. Is the picture quality and reliability OK? Got it before last season. Save for preseason games (with the local game(s) blacked out), nothing is live, you get the games the next day. But even if you know the result of your game, you still want to watch it, and you can either watch the full game broadcast minus commercial breaks, or a edited down game that’s essentially just the time the game clock is running and something is actually happening, so you can watch an entire game in about 40 minutes. And it’s fun to watch games you’d never ever see otherwise. Also, you have access to every game going back to 2009. I like it. A hundred bucks a year I can live with. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2016, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-preseason-discussion/762577/57 "2016-08-27T02:47:47Z")
It’s really good in terms of quality. It’s well done, the condensed games are worth it alone (watch a game in 25 minutes with most of the dead time removed), and you can do quad screen and watch a few games at once to recreate a Sunday afternoon. I’ve had gamepass international with the live streaming the last 2 years (my web traffic mysteriously comes from Germany, you see) but they screwed me this year. They were supposed to auto-renew me at $130, but instead I got bumped up to the $200 price. I wasn’t so sure I wanted to pay $200 for a few months of football. Still thinking about it. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2016, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-preseason-discussion/762577/58 "2016-08-27T04:25:50Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > Got it before last season. Save for preseason games (with the local game(s) blacked out), nothing is live, you get the games the next day. Maybe they changed it this year; the [web page](https://digitalcare.nfl.com/hc/en-us/articles/215460997-Game-Publish-Times) says: “Broadcast versions of Sunday morning and afternoon games (9:30am ET, 1pm ET & 4pm ET) are available by 8pm ET on Sunday.” which is 5pm my time, which is perfect for me. That doesn’t apply to the night games, but the night games are usually broadcast nationally anyway. Yeah, what the hell, it’s only a hundred bucks, and I have two guys vouching for the quality now. The kids can eat Spam for a month. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2016, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-preseason-discussion/762577/59 "2016-08-27T07:55:01Z")
It used to be that you got the replays after midnight IIRC on Sunday night/Monday morning because they didn’t want to conflict with Sunday Night Football. It’s surprising to me that they moved that time up to 8pm. I wonder how viable it would be for me to avoid watching football all Sunday and then watch it later as a replay. Somehow I think missing out on the live aspect of it would rob it of the excitement. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2016, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-preseason-discussion/762577/60 "2016-08-27T08:55:57Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > I wonder how viable it would be for me to avoid watching football all Sunday and then watch it later as a replay. Somehow I think missing out on the live aspect of it would rob it of the excitement. This already happened to me when I got DVR. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-preseason-discussion/762577.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-preseason-discussion/762577.md?page=4)