# NFL Preseason Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-preseason-thread/838309>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [August 7, 2019, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-preseason-thread/838309 "2019-08-07T17:28:57Z")\
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**Post date:** [August 7, 2019, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-preseason-thread/838309/1 "2019-08-07T17:28:57Z")

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Since we had an off-season thread, but it’s no longer the off-season. 🙂

First up: Raiders WR Antonio Brown has missed most of Raiders training camp with what had been described as “sore feet.” As per this article on [SI.com](http://SI.com), while this was not inaccurate, it also was not the whole story:

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> Raiders’ star wide receiver Antonio Brown is still dealing with a foot injury that is reportedly the result of “extreme frostbite” caused by a cryotherapy machine, ProFootballTalk first reported.
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> Per reports, Brown was not wearing appropriate footwear when he entered a cryotherapy chamber last month in France which burned his feet and left them frostbitten.

:eek:

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**Post date:** [August 7, 2019, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-preseason-thread/838309/2 "2019-08-07T19:41:12Z")

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I’d be like… WTF?! But then it’s Antonio Brown.

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**Post date:** [August 7, 2019, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-preseason-thread/838309/3 "2019-08-07T20:30:47Z")

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I forgot the link to the [SI.com](http://SI.com) story:

[https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/08/07/antonio-brown-foot-injury-frostbite-cryotherapy-raiders](https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/08/07/antonio-brown-foot-injury-frostbite-cryotherapy-raiders)

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**Post date:** [August 7, 2019, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-preseason-thread/838309/4 "2019-08-07T21:28:11Z")

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Ah the preseason when hope springs scraggly and malnourished, but eternal, from the blighted ground for a Lions fan.

I was actually pretty impressed with their off-season moves. Mostly they weren’t flashy but they improved some real weak spots. It will be hard to see how the moves on their lines pan out as early as the preseason. How the moves to fill the gaping void at TE pan out will be important. We should start to see some of that.

The Vikings signing Kirk Cousins doesn’t bode well for a division title. I’m a Lions fan, though. If they look like they will be competitive in most games and are still in the wildcard hunt in the last week or two it’s a decent year.

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**Post date:** [August 8, 2019, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-preseason-thread/838309/5 "2019-08-08T17:16:12Z")

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The traditional Giants/Jets preseason game is the first game this preseason, tonight. It’s usually week 3 when the starters play the entire first half. I wonder why they switched it?

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**Post date:** [August 9, 2019, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-preseason-thread/838309/6 "2019-08-09T03:29:31Z")

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Jermaine Kearse, WR who won a SB ring with Seattle (almost had two) snaps his leg on the 5th play of the Lions’ first preseason game. Very gruesome injury and speculation is that it will end his season before it started, if not his career.

> **[Detroit Lions receiver Jermaine Kearse suffers broken leg in preseason game](https://www.foxnews.com/sports/detroit-lions-receiver-jermaine-kearse-suffers-broken-leg-in-preseason-game)**
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> Detroit Lions wide receiver Jermaine Kearse’s NFL season may have ended even before his team’s first preseason game was over.

It’s a shame, I really like Kearse and I’ll never forget his circus catch to help win the miracle NFC championship against the Packers in 2014.

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**Post date:** [August 9, 2019, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-preseason-thread/838309/7 "2019-08-09T11:48:36Z")

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With the 1 hour delay, I missed the Daniel Jones drive live, but went to the videos. Kid has got a good arm, gives me some hope this was a good draft pick. The O-Line does look better then prior years, so the offense might perform well this year.

The defense made some big plays and looked weak a lot of the time. But preseason game 1 is a tough way to evaluate.

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**Post date:** [August 9, 2019, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-preseason-thread/838309/8 "2019-08-09T13:42:24Z")

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Nagy, who is known for NOT playing starters in the preseason, shockingly started his most important one, Mitch Trubisky at quarterback last night. Mitch handed the ball off …then handed the ball off …then handed the ball off. Bears punt. Mitch leaves never to return. What in the world was that about? Mitch needed work handing (not even pitching) the ball off to a running back? Bizarre.

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**Post date:** [August 9, 2019, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-preseason-thread/838309/9 "2019-08-09T14:56:34Z")

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> [@Jasmine](#):
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> Nagy, who is known for NOT playing starters in the preseason, shockingly started his most important one, Mitch Trubisky at quarterback last night. Mitch handed the ball off …then handed the ball off …then handed the ball off. Bears punt. Mitch leaves never to return. What in the world was that about? Mitch needed work handing (not even pitching) the ball off to a running back? Bizarre.

He was out there with the starting OL too. According to Nagy:

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> “You know, I think it’s really important for a lot of these guys to have the mental side of it, the pregame mentality of getting ready for a game, getting out there in the huddle under the lights, and it was only a few snaps and handoffs,” Nagy said. “I just think, and there were other guys, too, that played the same amount, same thing, preparation, and how do you handle yourself and it’s always good for everybody to get prepared with that.
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> “That’s what I was telling (Trubisky) earlier here is that it’s mentally preparing himself. There were other guys that just played a few plays. I think it’s so important for some guys, and it could be good for Mitch, too, that’s why I did it, was to just stay mentally prepared, pregame warm-ups, before the game, the pat and go, getting underneath the lights, taking snaps from center, and even though it was just a couple of hand-offs, I feel like just that part is good for him.”

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**Post date:** [August 9, 2019, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-preseason-thread/838309/10 "2019-08-09T14:57:46Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Jermaine Kearse, WR who won a SB ring with Seattle (almost had two) snaps his leg on the 5th play of the Lions’ first preseason game.

Damned ugly and one of three injuries for the Lions. At least it wasn’t any starters. It especially wasn’t the starting O-line that actually played for a bit before leaving and starting the sackathon.

_Holds myself and rocks_ It’s only the preseason. It’s only the preseason.

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**Post date:** [August 9, 2019, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-preseason-thread/838309/11 "2019-08-09T16:15:55Z")

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> [@DinoR](#):
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> It especially wasn’t the starting O-line that actually played for a bit before leaving and starting the sackathon.
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> _Holds myself and rocks_ It’s only the preseason. It’s only the preseason.

It’s got to be better than last season, right?

> **[Matthew Stafford endures 10 sacks, 17 hits; Lions' OL 'embarrassed'](https://www.espn.com/blog/detroit-lions/post/_/id/34647/matthew-stafford-endures-10-sacks-17-hits-lions-ol-embarrassed)**
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> The Vikings' defense roared with the franchise record for sacks, and it also shut down the run game in complete domination.

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**Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-preseason-thread/838309/12 "2019-08-12T19:23:34Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> The traditional Giants/Jets preseason game is the first game this preseason, tonight. It’s usually week 3 when the starters play the entire first half. I wonder why they switched it?

Answering my own question, the announcers mentioned that they play each other in the regular season this year, so I think it makes sense. Week 3 you play your starters and have somewhat of a game plan. Not like a real game, of course, but far more than in the first preseason game where your starters only get one drive and nobody installs any kind of game plan at all.

So maybe they switched from the third to the first week to keep things close to the vest for when they meet in the regular season.

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**Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-preseason-thread/838309/13 "2019-08-16T01:23:51Z")

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Going into this season, I was seriously concerned that the replay rules for defensive pass interference will result in even more ticky tack calls that further diminish, almost to nothing, the defense’s ability to stop the passing game. So far this preseason, my fears are even more heightened. This could get ridiculous very quickly.

I’m sorry the Saints got screwed out of playing in the Super Bowl last year (God knows Sean Peyton would have coached a better Super Bowl game than McVay did), but the even further neutering of defenses is not a solution.

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**Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-preseason-thread/838309/14 "2019-08-17T18:53:34Z")

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There were so many ticky tacky calls in the Redskins vs Bengals game in the 1st quarter that I was about to throw my iPad across the room. I am SICK of endless penalties and endless reviews. I don’t want to watch a 4 hour game.

For the Redskins, Colt McCoy still hasn’t taken a snap in a game and isn’t supposedly back to healthy. Haskins has shown some flashes of greatness but has also shown many signs that he’s still a rookie and there’s no way he can start week one regardless of how hot Gruden’s seat is.

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**Post date:** [August 18, 2019, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-preseason-thread/838309/15 "2019-08-18T02:01:52Z")

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The preseason is preseason for the officials, too. And the coaching staffs. You’ll see more penalties called because:

1. Backups playing
2. Refs getting used to new rules and points of emphasis
3. Coaches getting used to new rules and points of emphasis

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**Post date:** [August 18, 2019, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-preseason-thread/838309/16 "2019-08-18T02:45:18Z")

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> [@garygnu](#):
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> The preseason is preseason for the officials, too. And the coaching staffs. You’ll see more penalties called because:
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> 1. Backups playing
> 2. Refs getting used to new rules and points of emphasis
> 3. Coaches getting used to new rules and points of emphasis

Yes. You see this every preseason. It’s part of the process.

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**Post date:** [August 18, 2019, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-preseason-thread/838309/17 "2019-08-18T04:38:12Z")

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I’ll agree that it’s preseason for everyone and some of the backups might be a bit more aggressive since they want to make the team. And, I’m sure the refs know that the 4th quarter of a preseason game is 3rd string guys trying to nail a roster spot on special teams and most fans aren’t watching, unlike the 4th quarter of the early Sunday game in the regular season.

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**Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-preseason-thread/838309/18 "2019-08-20T12:52:19Z")

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I now have a new favorite player thanks to [this video of the Browns’s Larry Ogunjobi](https://twitter.com/Browns/status/1163464634105569282). Here’s hoping he’s a good guy and has a solid, injury free career.

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**Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-preseason-thread/838309/19 "2019-08-21T23:37:18Z")

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So all 4 Packers preseason games are on Thursday? Seems odd. Not that it is a big deal, but that is my board game night.

Brian

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-preseason-thread/838309/20 "2019-08-22T01:03:46Z")

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> [@N9IWP](#):
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> So all 4 Packers preseason games are on Thursday? Seems odd. Not that it is a big deal, but that is my board game night.
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> Brian

Weird scheduling, Giants have 3 Thursday nights and 1 Friday.

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