# NFL referees are out of hand. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 3, 2006, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-referees-are-out-of-hand/382717 "2006-12-03T19:00:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Wee\_Bairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90db22/32.png) [@Wee\_Bairn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wee_Bairn)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2006, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-referees-are-out-of-hand/382717/21 "2006-12-05T14:33:18Z")
I espcially hate it how now they are starting to call for late hits if you hit a player as he is \*\*about \*\* to go out of bounds, but before he is actually out of bounds. They are going to look very stupid when a player pulls up on a hit to avoid a flag, and the runner fakes going out of bounds and turns upfield. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2006, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-referees-are-out-of-hand/382717/22 "2006-12-05T14:49:28Z")
[QUOTE=Wee Bairn] I espcially hate it how now they are starting to call for late hits if you hit a player as he is \*\*about \*\* to go out of bounds, but before he is actually out of bounds. They are going to look very stupid when a player pulls up on a hit to avoid a flag, and the runner fakes going out of bounds and turns upfield. [/QUOTE] Or a quarterback can fake a throw, and the defender lets go rather than facing a 15 yard roughing-the-passer, allowing the QB time to roll and complete a throw. Not that it has ever happened, but I had a nightmare about it happening a week and a half ago. In my dream, a rookie QB escaped from the grasp of a rookie DL, went on to pass for a first down on 4th down, keeping alive a scoring drive that cost the Giants a victory. But it was just a bad dream. Please tell me it was just a bad dream. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2006, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-referees-are-out-of-hand/382717/23 "2006-12-05T15:52:02Z")
Not only was Glenn hit out of bounds but it was helmet to helmet, actually helmet to Glenn’s jaw. The Burriss boner was a blindside at the end of a play and well away from the action. It was flagrant and his later comments about protecting himself were laughable. The headbutt by Giant #70 was actually his 2nd foul during a single play. He’d first run into a lineman from behind and then twice headbutted. Then his hands go up like “Look what he did to me.” :rolleyes: Pretty even refreeing overall (other than the Tyree call) but those three were _well_ deserved. ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2006, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-referees-are-out-of-hand/382717/24 "2006-12-05T17:09:49Z")
Helmet to helmet contact on a ball carrier is fine. The only time helmet to helmet hits are prohibited is when the offensive player is defenseless - a receiver stretching for a pass, or a QB in the act of throwing… and there’s another rule that prohibits hitting the QB in the head under any circumstances without a note from his mother cosigned by his doctor and his third grade teacher, but that’s just stupid. Yeah, Glenn was out of bounds, and I thought it wasn’t that bad a call - borderline, but borderline calls have to fall on one side or the other. But there’s nothing wrong with ringing somebody’s bell if he’s got the ball and is trying to score. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-referees-are-out-of-hand/382717.md?page=1)