# NFL Training Camp & Preseason 2024 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** football-nfl\ **Created:** [July 23, 2024, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-training-camp-preseason-2024/1004691 "2024-07-23T16:14:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-training-camp-preseason-2024/1004691/61 "2024-08-29T16:46:26Z")
First to be unretired, though I am guessing not. Brian ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-training-camp-preseason-2024/1004691/62 "2024-08-29T22:25:20Z")
Indianapolis Colts OT Jake Witt, a seventh-round pick in the 2023 draft, [surprisingly announces his retirement](https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/indianapolis-colts/news/indianapolis-colts-draft-pick-retirement-surprise-nfl/f0c1b8843bd2419ae3da14a1). ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2024, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-training-camp-preseason-2024/1004691/63 "2024-08-30T02:00:08Z")
> **[BREAKING: 49ers sign Brandon Aiyuk to a 4-year extension worth $120 million,...](https://www.ninersnation.com/2024/8/29/24185239/brandon-aiyuk-49ers-news-contract-extension-rumors-wide-receiver-guarantees)** > > FINALLY! It’s over. It’s all over 49ers receiver Brandon Aiyuk finally signed an extension, after months of the most exhausting public negotiations I’ve witnessed. I didn’t mind the diva act at the beginning, but the weeks and weeks of “updates” that boiled down to "no news° " were awful as a fan. I wouldn’t have checked so much, but I wanted to get the news before my buddy. That didn’t end up working. I’m the end, I’m happy Aiyuk is staying and that he got paid well. °: I’m an expert on this. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2024, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-training-camp-preseason-2024/1004691/64 "2024-08-30T02:28:24Z")
I don’t think he’s that good. He’s been a decent receiver, not elite. He had 1300 yards and 7 scores last year, by far his best. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2024, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-training-camp-preseason-2024/1004691/65 "2024-08-30T02:34:52Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > He’s been a decent receiver, not elite. It’s also possible that his stats and stature suffer from having three other excellent receivers on his team: George Kittle, Deebo Samuel, and even RB Christian McCaffrey. Either way, the Niners certainly paid him WR1 money. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2024, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-training-camp-preseason-2024/1004691/66 "2024-08-30T02:52:28Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > It’s also possible that his stats and stature suffer from having three other excellent receivers on his team That’s an excellent point. Last season the Niners had four receivers with at least 60 receptions. Doubtful if any other team can make that claim. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2024, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-training-camp-preseason-2024/1004691/67 "2024-08-30T02:57:53Z")
Well, between competing for receptions with those guys, and getting open because those guys are also on the field, it all probably more or less evens out. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2024, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-training-camp-preseason-2024/1004691/68 "2024-08-30T04:40:44Z")
CeeDee Lamb screwed it up for everyone with his contract. Well, screwed it up for teams, not for other WRs. Aiyuk’s contract is probably the new norm for good, not elite receivers. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2024, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-training-camp-preseason-2024/1004691/69 "2024-08-30T11:28:13Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > Aiyuk’s contract is probably the new norm for good, not elite receivers. Huh. Yesterday, this article from Fox Sports ranked Lamb as the 3rd-best WR in the league and Aiyuk as 8th. > **[2024 Best NFL wide receivers: Justin Jefferson, Tyreek Hill lead rankings](https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nfl/2024-best-nfl-wide-receivers-justin-jefferson-tyreek-hill-lead-rankings)** > > Who are the NFL's 10 best wide receivers? FOX Sports' staff of NFL writers ranked players throughout the league and wrote about what makes them special. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2024, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-training-camp-preseason-2024/1004691/70 "2024-08-30T11:51:13Z")
Lamb _is_ elite. He led the league in catches, yards after the catch and touchdowns last season and finished just behind Tyreek Hill in overall receiving yards. Aiyuk has never led the league in anything. (He came close to leading the league in yards per target last year.) ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2024, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-training-camp-preseason-2024/1004691/71 "2024-08-30T12:46:56Z")
Here’s one more article ranking the top WRs in the NFL. Again, Lamb is 3rd and Aiyuk is 8th. Granted, these rankings are only opinions. But both of the articles I linked back up the point that Aiyuk is well above average at his position. Maybe not elite, but certainly better than good, [https://www.profootballnetwork.com/best-wide-receivers-nfl-rankings/](https://www.profootballnetwork.com/best-wide-receivers-nfl-rankings/) ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2024, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-training-camp-preseason-2024/1004691/72 "2024-08-30T13:09:49Z")
He’s certainly well above average, but he’s certainly not the fourth best player at his position (which is what he’s getting paid as). ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2024, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-training-camp-preseason-2024/1004691/73 "2024-08-30T14:46:25Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > but he’s certainly not the fourth best player at his position (which is what he’s getting paid as). A lot of it is just a matter of who gets a new contract, when. I don’t think anyone could seriously argue that Jordan Love or Trevor Lawrence are the best QB in the NFL today, but they’re currently tied with Joe Burrow for the biggest contract, because both Love and Lawrence signed new contracts this year. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2024, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-training-camp-preseason-2024/1004691/74 "2024-08-30T14:56:07Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > he’s certainly not the fourth best player at his position So following that logic, Patrick Mahomes is the 11th best quarterback in the NFL? It’s rather obvious that the amount of a player’s salary does not necessarily equate to his relative position among his peers. Also, what @kenobi_65 just said. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2024, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-training-camp-preseason-2024/1004691/75 "2024-09-01T06:24:57Z")
Contracts are less about who’s best, and more about who’s next. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2024, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-training-camp-preseason-2024/1004691/76 "2024-09-01T13:52:00Z")
Okay, fair enough. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-training-camp-preseason-2024/1004691.md?page=3)