# NFL: Week 1 - "We're back baby!" **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 9, 2011, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1-were-back-baby/595679 "2011-09-09T01:33:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2011, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1-were-back-baby/595679/81 "2011-09-10T10:25:30Z")
> [@Jules\_Andre](#): > > Incidental means two people coming into contact as they both try to make a play on the ball. Hawk jumped over Sproles back to make a play and doubled Sproles over in the effort. That can’t possibly be incidental. [Look here.](http://www.flickr.com/photos/67353165@N05/6131897911/in/photostream) Sproles is almost knocked to a knee a full second before the ball got there. I can’t even begin to imagine what has to go through your head to think that isn’t P.I.. > > Not that it was the wrong play, it was absolutely the right play. Hawk potentially saved the game. But it was without a doubt a penalty. Hmmm…its hard to tell if Hawk is touching him there…Sproles’ body language does seem to indicate that he is, but maybe he was bending down to catch the ball? At any rate, the ref is right there too. Seeing that makes me kinda doubt my earlier pronouncement. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2011, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1-were-back-baby/595679/82 "2011-09-10T16:34:15Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > At any rate, the ref is right there too. Seeing that makes me kinda doubt my earlier pronouncement. The flag was thrown by the ref who was behind Hawk (you can see his POV in the screen capture linked to earlier and in the video). He didn’t not have a good angle on the play. From my view, it looked like he couldn’t even see the amount of contact because Hawk was in the way. The ref who saw the play from the front didn’t throw the flag. Again, a judgment call, but one I think they got wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2011, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1-were-back-baby/595679/83 "2011-09-10T18:54:44Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > **[MODERATING]** > > **Omniscient** , accusing another poster of lying, which you have done - you may spare me claims that your wording was anything but - is against the rules of this forum. That’s news to me. ---
**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1-were-back-baby/595679/84 "2011-09-11T08:16:39Z")
I’m nervous/terrified/excited about tomorrow’s Eagles @ Rams game. For as confident as I am about the Eagles this season, I can’t help but see this game going really badly. Steven Jackson against the inexperienced/overmatched run defense of the Eagles? Ugh. Michael Vick (he of poor blitz reads and now with the expectation that he make all the O-Line reads instead of the center) and an offensive line featuring three new starters, among them a rookie center, and a right tackle who hasn’t played the position since college… in a loud dome on the road? Yuck. And the Eagles under Andy Reid always start poorly (5-7 in season openers). I’d like to think the Eagles just have more talent and pull out a sloppy game in the end, but I’m having a hard time seeing it happen (still picking it though). And with a road game at Atlanta followed by a home game against the hyper-motivated Giants… I can still smell that 0-3 start and the utter collapse of the Eagles fanbase. At least then there’ll be a little more elbow room on the bandwagon. Sure hope that doesn’t happen! ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 10:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1-were-back-baby/595679/85 "2011-09-11T10:07:15Z")
> [@Jules\_Andre](#): > > I’m nervous/terrified/excited about tomorrow’s Eagles @ Rams game. For as confident as I am about the Eagles this season, I can’t help but see this game going really badly. Steven Jackson against the inexperienced/overmatched run defense of the Eagles? Ugh. Michael Vick (he of poor blitz reads and now with the expectation that he make all the O-Line reads instead of the center) and an offensive line featuring three new starters, among them a rookie center, and a right tackle who hasn’t played the position since college… in a loud dome on the road? Yuck. And the Eagles under Andy Reid always start poorly (5-7 in season openers). > > I’d like to think the Eagles just have more talent and pull out a sloppy game in the end, but I’m having a hard time seeing it happen (still picking it though). And with a road game at Atlanta followed by a home game against the hyper-motivated Giants… I can still smell that 0-3 start and the utter collapse of the Eagles fanbase. At least then there’ll be a little more elbow room on the bandwagon. Sure hope that doesn’t happen! Eagle fan here! Just received my Asomugha jersey and my pillow pet of Swoop is on the way! I agree with you on today’s game. With all of these new players in a short training camp, I expect communication to be poor. I will NOT be surprised if I see Asomugha, Rodgers-Cromartie and Samuel all going after the same receiver. 😃 We shall see, won’t we? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1-were-back-baby/595679/86 "2011-09-11T13:11:22Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > We shall see, won’t we? 😉 I so excited that I get to go the game here in STL (nosebleed seats though) with the family. It’s a fascinating game, with McDaniels (Rams O Coordinator) even likening it to Christmas morning. The Rams are about 4 point underdogs, but a lot of the sports guys here and nationwide like the Rams in this game. I don’t see it happening (I think their O Line is still questionable, Bradford is only in his second year and in a new offense, and the Eagles are clearly more talented), but the fact that there is actual hope for the Rams and that they’re an up and coming team is nice to see. Should be one of the best games this week. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1-were-back-baby/595679/87 "2011-09-11T13:16:27Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > We shall see, won’t we? 😉 I’m so excited that I get to go the game here in STL (nosebleed seats though) with the family. It’s a fascinating game, with McDaniels (Rams O Coordinator) even likening it to Christmas morning. The Rams are about 4 point underdogs, but a lot of the sports guys here and nationwide like the Rams in this game. I don’t see it happening (I think their O Line is still questionable, Bradford is only in his second year and in a new offense, and the Eagles are clearly more talented), but the fact that there is actual hope for the Rams and that they’re an up and coming team is nice to see. Should be one of the best games this week. Go Rams! ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1-were-back-baby/595679/88 "2011-09-11T13:18:10Z")
Whoopsie. My football thoughts, though compelling, aren’t really worth two posts. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1-were-back-baby/595679/89 "2011-09-11T14:21:17Z")
Just a heads-up, [The RedZone channel is supposed to be free today.](http://www.footballnewsnow.com/2011/nfl-offering-free-weekend-of-sunday-ticket-redzone-channel-and-nfl-radio/) ---
**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1-were-back-baby/595679/90 "2011-09-11T17:18:17Z")
Well that was the worst possible start to a game/season without a star going down for the season. Awesome! ---
**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1-were-back-baby/595679/91 "2011-09-11T17:58:59Z")
Getting tired of seeing third and long and the Rams get bailed out on bogus phantom calls ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1-were-back-baby/595679/92 "2011-09-11T19:10:27Z")
Man, the Colts are getting WORKED. Manning must be seething. And the Steelers don’t seem to be doing much better against the Ravens. Overall, it seems that I am seeing some pretty sloppy play across the board (I’m watching whip-around coverage on Redzone). Do others have that impression? I am patiently (not) waiting to see my beloved Carolina Panthers beat (not) the Arizona Cardinals. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1-were-back-baby/595679/93 "2011-09-11T19:23:01Z")
Watching the Ravens beat up on the Steelers has been the best possible way to start the season. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1-were-back-baby/595679/94 "2011-09-11T19:26:23Z")
Damn. Dalton hurt after playing okay…here comes Gradkowski. Fuck. He sucks balls. ---
**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1-were-back-baby/595679/95 "2011-09-11T19:27:56Z")
As usual, Tom Brady is having a great game, throwing four touchdowns with no picks and the Patriots are leading the Chiefs 34-7. Wait…that’s Ryan Fitzpatrick and the Bills??? Is this madness??? ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1-were-back-baby/595679/96 "2011-09-11T19:30:32Z")
> [@Jules\_Andre](#): > > Getting tired of seeing third and long and the Rams get bailed out on bogus phantom calls I was hopnig to watch a football game, and an officiating party broke out. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1-were-back-baby/595679/97 "2011-09-11T19:56:22Z")
C’mon Bengals! The Browns are as almost as inept as you are…SCORE! ---
**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1-were-back-baby/595679/98 "2011-09-11T19:56:57Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > I was hopnig to watch a football game, and an officiating party broke out. Good god, no kidding. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1-were-back-baby/595679/99 "2011-09-11T20:01:39Z")
FU Haden! AJ GREEN! ---
**Author:** ![It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/it_s_not_rocket_surgery/32/312_2.png) [@It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/It_s_Not_Rocket_Surgery)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2011, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1-were-back-baby/595679/100 "2011-09-11T20:06:40Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > FU Haden! AJ GREEN! That was funny. How does an NFL team in this day and age completely forget to cover a WR? It’s not like he came out of the backfield and everyone was occupied! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1-were-back-baby/595679.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1-were-back-baby/595679.md?page=6)