# NFL: Week 1 - "We're back baby!"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1-were-back-baby/595679>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [September 9, 2011, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1-were-back-baby/595679 "2011-09-09T01:33:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![sitchensis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sitchensis/32/4892_2.png) [@sitchensis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sitchensis)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1-were-back-baby/595679/161 "2011-09-13T04:10:32Z")

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Sebas good from 63

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1-were-back-baby/595679/162 "2011-09-13T04:36:08Z")

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What was the “inappropriate word” that was said during the New England-Miami game?

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1-were-back-baby/595679/163 "2011-09-13T04:57:27Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> Did they make some sort of rule change that makes passing easier? Tom Brady has 511 yards now with 3 minutes remaining, all time record is 554.

Well, 99 of that came on one play (and, for that matter, one of the last throws he made in the game).

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1-were-back-baby/595679/164 "2011-09-13T04:57:29Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> I believe they said that’s a record.

Previous record was 927, [Ken O’Brien vs. Dan Marino](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6taHdLTpbM) (youtube link).

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**Author:** ![Mince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mince)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1-were-back-baby/595679/165 "2011-09-13T06:45:13Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> Well, 99 of that came on one play (and, for that matter, one of the last throws he made in the game).

It was a 17 yard pass and 82 yard run assisted by a poor tackling attempt and almost certainly a defensive breakdown. Quarterbacks should only get credit for passing yards to the point where the receiver catches the pass. To say Brady threw a 99 yard touchdown pass is sublime.

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1-were-back-baby/595679/166 "2011-09-13T14:12:38Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> What was the “inappropriate word” that was said during the New England-Miami game?

Jaws said “shit” at one point.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1-were-back-baby/595679/167 "2011-09-13T14:22:05Z")

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> [@Mince](#):
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> To say Brady threw a 99 yard touchdown pass is **sublime**.

This word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1-were-back-baby/595679/168 "2011-09-13T14:30:20Z")

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It’s actually superlime.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1-were-back-baby/595679/169 "2011-09-13T14:40:34Z")

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> [@Mince](#):
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> It was a 17 yard pass and 82 yard run assisted by a poor tackling attempt and almost certainly a defensive breakdown. Quarterbacks should only get credit for passing yards to the point where the receiver catches the pass.

So a pass where the QB gets the ball to the receiver in perfect position for a long run should be treated the same as a pass where the receiver has to stop, turn around, lunge, and gets no extra yards? There’s no perfect measure, but that’s pretty flawed, too.

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**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1-were-back-baby/595679/170 "2011-09-13T15:27:21Z")

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> [@garygnu](#):
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> This year specifically? Nothing comes to mind. In general, nowadays pass rushers can’t touch the QB’s head, they can’t touch the QB’s legs; defensive backs can’t touch the receivers, they can’t hit receivers catching the ball, and in general can’t really play defense anymore.

The QB rules make sense. He is generally left in some pretty vulnerable positions and there is a huge size difference between a QB and a DE, DT or LB coming in on a charge. Keeping hits confined to the trunk seems pretty wise.

The DB rules need to be relaxed some so that they can compete with WRs. There is less injury chance there. Those rules are all about increasing scoring and passing yards per game.

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1-were-back-baby/595679/171 "2011-09-13T15:29:30Z")

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> [@Telemark](#):
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> Jaws said “shit” at one point.

Thank you. I actually rewound to several “passes” looking for it as that’s what he mentioned but couldn’t find it. I thought the screamed “Gawd Dammit” easily heard when someone (77?) false started was far more flagrant, although neither was of any count at’all.

> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> I’m surprised the Pats didn’t come out passing on their last drive to give Brady a chance at the record.

He did throw one completion and maybe a couple of incompletes after the 99. I thought they’d go for it too, as long as they’re not pulling him (which I would have done).

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**Author:** ![Sateryn76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Sateryn76](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sateryn76)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1-were-back-baby/595679/172 "2011-09-13T16:02:12Z")

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Any thoughts on why so many injuries - and several of them bad injuries? Shortened training camps? Lack of calcium and glucosomine? Confirmation bias on my part?

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**Author:** ![Quercus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/7ab992/32.png) [@Quercus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quercus)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1-were-back-baby/595679/173 "2011-09-13T16:20:22Z")

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> [@Mince](#):
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> It was a 17 yard pass and 82 yard run assisted by a poor tackling attempt and almost certainly a defensive breakdown. Quarterbacks should only get credit for passing yards to the point where the receiver catches the pass. To say Brady threw a 99 yard touchdown pass is sublime.

Hmm. How do you propose dealing with a QB who perfectly suckers the defense and then delivers a successful screen pass? Should that be negative pass yards for the QB?  
Statistics are never perfect. Best you can do is hope the random quirks even out.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1-were-back-baby/595679/174 "2011-09-13T16:29:40Z")

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> [@lieu](#):
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> Thank you. I actually rewound to several “passes” looking for it as that’s what he mentioned but couldn’t find it. I thought the screamed “Gawd Dammit” easily heard when someone (77?) false started was far more flagrant, although neither was of any count at’all.

They sometimes use those parabolic microphones to catch what the players are saying on the field. And I’m pretty sure I heard a player saying “what the fuck” this weekend but they cut away real fast.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1-were-back-baby/595679/175 "2011-09-13T16:32:39Z")

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That 99 yard pass play was worth 16.15 points to Wes Welker in my Fantasy League…helped me win when I thought I was dead.

(9.9 for the yards, 6 for the TD, and .25 for the reception)

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**Author:** ![Laggard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@Laggard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laggard)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1-were-back-baby/595679/176 "2011-09-13T19:10:06Z")

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> [@garygnu](#):
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> This year specifically? Nothing comes to mind. In general, nowadays pass rushers can’t touch the QB’s head, they can’t touch the QB’s legs; defensive backs can’t touch the receivers, they can’t hit receivers catching the ball, and in general can’t really play defense anymore.

Next step will be flags hanging off the QBs belt.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1-were-back-baby/595679/177 "2011-09-13T19:12:03Z")

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> [@Sateryn76](#):
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> Any thoughts on why so many injuries - and several of them bad injuries? Shortened training camps? Lack of calcium and glucosomine? Confirmation bias on my part?

I strongly suspect it’s confirmation bias. I’d be very surprised if the number of injuries (and the number of serious injuries) were significantly higher (on a statistically significant basis) from that seen in previous opening weekends.

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**Author:** ![Laggard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@Laggard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laggard)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1-were-back-baby/595679/178 "2011-09-13T19:12:08Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> Fine, let’s go back to the very beginning of football and get rid of the forward pass.

They’re not trying to add to the game though. They’re trying to eliminate something that has been part of the game since day one. It would be like eliminating the forward pass because once in a while a receiver gets flattened.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1-were-back-baby/595679/179 "2011-09-13T19:16:32Z")

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> [@Laggard](#):
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> They’re not trying to add to the game though. They’re trying to eliminate something that has been part of the game since day one. It would be like eliminating the forward pass because once in a while a receiver gets flattened.

Up until 1974 the kickoff was from the 40, then it was moved to the 35. IN 1994 the Kickoff was moved to the 30.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1-were-back-baby/595679/180 "2011-09-13T19:23:29Z")

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And June 6, 1996 was Day One. Who doesn’t know _that_? 😉

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