# NFL Week 1

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1/765358>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [September 8, 2016, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1/765358 "2016-09-08T19:13:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1/765358/81 "2016-09-12T07:56:59Z")

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> [@cg16](#):
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> Cowboys finally have a solid backup QB in Dak Prescott
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> 1. Very mobile
> 2. Accurate
> 3. Not Turnover Prone  
> What more can a fan ask for when evaluating a rookie QB?

Yeah, he looked solid. Kind of started to wear down a bit in the fourth, it felt like, but for an opening day rookie performance? Rock solid.

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**Author:** ![yanceylebeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yanceylebeef/32/12290_2.png) [@yanceylebeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yanceylebeef)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1/765358/82 "2016-09-12T13:48:37Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> I was listening to the Seahawks game on the radio. I heard the last play as a safety which should be two points and the game continues but the officials called the game over. What happened?

Time expired while the play was still going on. No score. (is what the TV announcers said.)

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1/765358/83 "2016-09-12T14:11:39Z")

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> [@yanceylebeef](#):
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> Time expired while the play was still going on. No score. (is what the TV announcers said.)

Teams score after the clock expires all the time in football. If the rule is different for a safety the announcers should have said so.

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**Author:** ![Quercus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/7ab992/32.png) [@Quercus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quercus)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1/765358/84 "2016-09-12T14:12:04Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Tannehill was standing on the half-yard line, Avril came up, gave him a hug, and laid him down a half-yard over the big G. It may be that it was not recorded as a safety because it started outside the endzone and Avril was the only impetus for it going over the line. Or maybe the zebras said, _fuck it, 2 points will not affect the outcome or any bets on the line, we just wanna get outta this noisy place_.

If Tannehill was outside the end zone, and the force of the tackle carried him in, the correct call would indeed be no safety, down at the half yard line. And, I think, referees are typically inclined to err on the side of no safety if it’s not clear whether the QB was in or out of the end zone.

So nothing strange about this call (if it’s as described above). Box score says Tannehill down at the 1, which indicates that’s probably what happened.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1/765358/85 "2016-09-12T14:22:55Z")

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> [@cg16](#):
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> Cowboys finally have a solid backup QB in Dak Prescott
> 
> 1. Very mobile
> 2. Accurate
> 3. Not Turnover Prone  
> What more can a fan ask for when evaluating a rookie QB?

Five or six more games.

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**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1/765358/86 "2016-09-12T14:37:01Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> I was thinking Cowboys didn’t need Romo, but that last play … a veteran QB would have reminded his receivers what they needed to do.

Or look at it this way: If the Cowboys could have made just one of the four field goal trips to the red zone end up as a touchdown instead of a field goal, it wouldn’t have mattered what Williams did.

You suck, you lose. Romo, Dak, it just doesn’t matter 😃

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**Author:** ![cg16](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@cg16](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cg16)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1/765358/87 "2016-09-12T15:13:42Z")

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> [@Duke\_of\_Rat](#):
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> Or look at it this way: If the Cowboys could have made just one of the four field goal trips to the red zone end up as a touchdown instead of a field goal, it wouldn’t have mattered what Williams did.
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> You suck, you lose. Romo, Dak, it just doesn’t matter 😃

well if even we didn’t score a TD, atleast we have a QB who can move the chains and always have us in the redzone

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**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1/765358/88 "2016-09-12T15:55:21Z")

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> [@cg16](#):
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> well if even we didn’t score a TD, atleast we have a QB who can move the chains and always have us in the redzone

Moving the chains, noble goal. Look at the bright side - Washington hasn’t played yet this week. Still a chance for some company in last place NFC East.

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**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1/765358/89 "2016-09-12T17:05:56Z")

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That was a pretty encouraging game for the Giants. Sterling Shepard looked very good, shifty and hard to cover, and if Victor Cruz proves to be anything close to his old self this should be one of the best units in the league. Eli looked pretty good. The running game worked shockingly well, including at the end of the game when Dallas knew what was coming. And the expensive free agents on defense, for one day at least, seemed to play up to their contracts. Oh, and Jason Pierre-Paul also was very effective; the Giants might have an actual pass rush this year.

Or, maybe it’s a failing that that they barely won against a team starting a 4th Round rookie in place of their injured QB. But Prescott looked good, I thought – not unstoppable by any means, but he didn’t make me think, “Man, the Cowboys are in trouble.” He looked like he belonged on the field.

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**Author:** ![Anamorphic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/anamorphic/32/3057_2.png) [@Anamorphic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anamorphic)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1/765358/90 "2016-09-12T17:16:09Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> Found out something cool if you watch games in a sports bar. [tunity](http://www.tunity.com/) is an app that will let you take a picture of a screen, figure out which channel it’s on, and then stream the audio feed from that game.

That is a genius idea!

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1/765358/91 "2016-09-12T17:23:27Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> Refs blatantly cheated Browns out of a play at the end of the half. Video shows. Play called down with 3 seconds on the clock and Hue in the picture signaling timeout clearly.

Do you really think it would have made a difference?

Sorry, but it would appear RG3 is still exactly the player that left Washington. Throws a beautiful deep ball, always has, but it’s all he’s got. He’s still too quick to give up on the pass and run, still refuses to run out of bounds, still has no idea how to read a defense, and he still can’t tell when a receiver is open, even if he’s WIDE FUCKING OPEN. It’s not like they were facing the '85 Bears. These are not the Eagles of old, they’re not even the Eagles he’d played against before.

I was hoping he would get his shit together in a new city, I really was, but he’s not learned a thing. Not that I can blame this loss entirely on RG3, but it’s crystal clear he is not part of the solution. I’ll be surprised if he makes it to mid-season still upright.

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**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1/765358/92 "2016-09-12T18:07:54Z")

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Being a Browns fan is just torture. The only way to avoid it is to not care. But they are awful on both sides of the ball. Painfully awful. Saw this comment on a Browns board and thought it was funny (and probably true). “Cleveland - putting the 0-16 in 2016.”

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1/765358/93 "2016-09-12T18:39:53Z")

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RG III to IR

> **[Browns put RG III on IR with shoulder injury](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/17531162/cleveland-browns-qb-robert-griffin-iii-potentially-serious-injury?ex_cid=espnfb)**
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> Robert Griffin III has a fractured bone in his left shoulder and will miss at least the next eight games for the Cleveland Browns, the team announced Monday.

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**Author:** ![phungi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/phungi/32/395_2.png) [@phungi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phungi)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1/765358/94 "2016-09-12T18:40:25Z")

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being an Eagles fan, my thoughts were:

1. Carson Wentz looked composed, fairly accurate, and like a promising QB.
2. Peterson looked pretty good as a head coach, at least with clock management, getting plays in, and calling a decent game.
3. They played the Browns, so it is hard to tell if either #1 or #2 are valid.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1/765358/95 "2016-09-12T19:00:38Z")

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> [@Quercus](#):
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> If Tannehill was outside the end zone, and the force of the tackle carried him in, the correct call would indeed be no safety, down at the half yard line. And, I think, referees are typically inclined to err on the side of no safety if it’s not clear whether the QB was in or out of the end zone.

Not quite “the force of the tackle” when I look at the video. It looks more like 56 kind of wrangles the QB over the goal line before finishing the tackle. I guess it must be akin to “forward progress”, inasmuch as the QB was not trying to flee backward from the tackle.

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1/765358/96 "2016-09-12T19:01:13Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> RG III to IR
> 
> [Cleveland Browns QB Robert Griffin III to injured reserve with shoulder injury - ESPN](http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/17531162/cleveland-browns-qb-robert-griffin-iii-potentially-serious-injury?ex_cid=espnfb)

Probably the best outcome for everyone.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1/765358/97 "2016-09-12T19:50:43Z")

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For fucks sake. The only thing to look forward to this year was watching RG3 throw deep balls to Gordon/Coleman/Pryor. It’s the only thing that might’ve been even remotely watchable. Everything else was a complete dumpster fire. And that was taken away.

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**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1/765358/98 "2016-09-12T20:01:17Z")

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Damn, dude, that’s fucked up. It’s so hard being a Browns fan that it’s actually a little hard _knowing_ a Browns fan.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1/765358/99 "2016-09-12T20:03:02Z")

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Is RG3 done now? I’m assuming the Browns will draft a QB, and I don’t see anyone else giving him a shot to start. His injury concerns make him an unlikely backup as well.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1/765358/100 "2016-09-12T20:08:24Z")

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He could be back by week 9 or 10 according to the reports. Looks like McCown will take over for now, barring a trade (which will be made more difficult because the Seahawks are reportedly looking for a vet backup for Russell Wilson).

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