# NFL Week 1 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 6, 2017, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1/795662 "2017-09-06T18:30:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1/795662/61 "2017-09-12T17:59:55Z")
> [@RogueRacer](#): > > There was also the block in the back which again will bring that play back. There was no block in the back. When you look at the play, it is not even clear that there was any contact at all. Rogers keeps on chasing Smith as if he had not even been touched by Avril. It was a terrible call. If there were offsetting flags on Lane and Adams, as probably should have been the case, where would the ball have been spotted (as the penalties would have been after the pick)? ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1/795662/62 "2017-09-12T20:33:47Z")
> [@N9IWP](#): > > There may have been some questionable calls in the GB / Seattle game, but (IMHO) Seattle still doesn’t have the right to complain yet. > > Slow start, but the Packers pull it off. > > Brian So the phantom clip that nullified a touchdown Being tackled by two guys in the endzone is not pass interference Being ejected because of a phantom punch. When do the Seahawks get the right to complain? ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1/795662/63 "2017-09-12T20:39:26Z")
You want a binky or something? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1/795662/64 "2017-09-12T20:42:21Z")
> [@RogueRacer](#): > > No sympathy here on a call going against Seattle for a change. They have had more than their fair share of bad calls in their favor the last few years. A bad call is a bad call and is always a bad call. Period. ---
**Author:** ![RogueRacer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7ab992/32.png) [@RogueRacer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RogueRacer)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1/795662/65 "2017-09-13T17:23:16Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > A bad call is a bad call and is always a bad call. Period. Tell that to Pete Carroll. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1/795662/66 "2017-09-13T18:22:15Z")
All teams suffer from and benefit from bad calls in equal measure. Some just complain about it more and/or louder. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1/795662/67 "2017-09-13T19:42:11Z")
I find that unlikely. Even if it’s not a grand conspiracy, I think refs will tend to favor successful teams and star players whether they conciously mean to or not. In rare cases there are personal grudges, too, I think. Terry McAuley gives the Browns shit since he was involved in bottlegate. ---
**Author:** ![Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/do_not_taunt/32/2968_2.png) [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Do_Not_Taunt)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1/795662/68 "2017-09-13T21:57:23Z")
> [@garygnu](#): > > All teams suffer from and benefit from bad calls in equal measure. Some just complain about it more and/or louder. Maybe, but if so, it averages out over many seasons, not within a specific game. And all teams/fans complain when they get the short end of the stick in a particular game. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1/795662/69 "2017-09-13T23:15:01Z")
Shazier should have been suspended for his hit on Kizer. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1/795662/70 "2017-09-14T00:17:46Z")
Which one? There were 3 head to head hits including a spearing during a slide. ---
**Author:** ![Fleetwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fleetwood/32/271_2.png) [@Fleetwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fleetwood)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1/795662/71 "2017-09-14T11:55:13Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > He said two things. What is the other one? 1994? I should have added 2014. The last two times that Buffalo was 1-0 and NE 0-1, were Superbowl winning seasons for NE. Buffalo finished 6-10 and 9-7 out out of the playoffs (as they have each year this century). Don’t count your chickes before they hatch. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1/795662/72 "2017-09-14T13:56:54Z")
> [@Fleetwood](#): > > … > Don’t count your chickes before they hatch. What does Seattle have to do with any of this? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1/795662/73 "2017-09-14T18:41:08Z")
> [@RogueRacer](#): > > Tell that to Pete Carroll. He’s just going to ignore me and chew his gum. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1/795662/74 "2017-09-14T21:08:15Z")
[Week 2 thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=20477685) ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2017, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1/795662/75 "2017-09-17T04:12:04Z")
> [@RogueRacer](#): > > No sympathy here on a call going against Seattle for a change. They have had more than their fair share of bad calls in their favor the last few years. Against the Seahawks Like when the refs thought Vinnie Testaverde’s white and green helmet was a football and called a touchdown? That call cost the Seahawks the playoffs that year (and the coach his job). The season that the refs mismanaged the clock in two different games in the last minute. Super Bowl XL. So what are you going to counter with? The Fail Mary which had absolutely no impact on the preseason (even accounting for standings)? And incidently you need to ignore the missed Green Bay’s DPI from just a couple plays before that had a huge impact on the game. So go ahead and tell me what bad calls Seattle has benefited from. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-1/795662.md?page=3)