# NFL Week 10

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-10/737406>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [November 12, 2015, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-10/737406 "2015-11-12T20:53:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-10/737406/81 "2015-11-17T04:29:30Z")

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Gotta check my calendar - with the way the Bengals played tonight, I’d swear it was January.

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**Author:** ![tarrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f0a364/32.png) [@tarrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tarrel)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-10/737406/82 "2015-11-17T04:40:59Z")

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> [@JSexton](#):
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> How did the dolphins block the punt if they didn’t have momentum?

They didn’t have momentum until they blocked the punt and that;s when everything went downhill for the eagles

If that punt is never blocked, the eagles are 5-4

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**Author:** ![tarrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f0a364/32.png) [@tarrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tarrel)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-10/737406/83 "2015-11-17T04:42:10Z")

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> [@Enginerd](#):
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> Gotta check my calendar - with the way the Bengals played tonight, I’d swear it was January.

Classic Trap Game

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-10/737406/84 "2015-11-17T10:59:49Z")

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> [@Telemark](#):
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> Not trying to defend Peyton’s performance this weekend but Eli had plantar fasciitis whch is an inflamed tendon; Peyton has a torn plantar fascia, a much bigger deal.

Eli had a full tear, Peyton has a partial tear.

[Cite](http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14143938/peyton-manning-denver-broncos-torn-plantar-fascia-left-foot):

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> Sources told ESPN that Manning has battled plantar fasciitis for weeks but is believed to have aggravated the injury against Indianapolis on Nov. 8, resulting in a partial tear of his plantar fascia. Almost always, a partial tear is more painful to play with than a complete tear.
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> His brother, Eli Manning, said he suffered a full tear of his plantar fascia in Week 4 of the 2009 season and did not miss any games. The New York Giants quarterback said he talked to his older brother about the injury last week, but hadn’t spoken with Peyton since Sunday’s game.
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> “Hopefully, he’ll figure out a way to feel as good as he can and get a plan for getting back to playing the way he knows how to play,” Eli Manning said Monday. ""It was a few weeks, probably 3-4 weeks, before the pain was away and I was able to perform a normal way and the way I’m accustomed to.

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-10/737406/85 "2015-11-17T13:01:29Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> Eli had a full tear, Peyton has a partial tear.

I didn’t remember the details and a quick google search just reported Eli had plantar fasciitis. Thanks for the correction, and props to Eli for playing through that.

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**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-10/737406/86 "2015-11-17T13:40:10Z")

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Heard this morning that a partial tear is more painful than a full tear. I’ve had plantar fasciitis, which is not a tear, and it hurts enough you can barely walk without a limp. Maybe if you wrapped the ever-loving crap out of it you could play football.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-10/737406/87 "2015-11-17T14:11:58Z")

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> [@Telemark](#):
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> I didn’t remember the details and a quick google search just reported Eli had plantar fasciitis. Thanks for the correction, and props to Eli for playing through that.

Agreed, but I was more impressed with him playing through a shoulder separation on his throwing shoulder back in 2007.

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-10/737406/88 "2015-11-17T17:30:58Z")

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> [@Enginerd](#):
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> Gotta check my calendar - with the way the Bengals played tonight, I’d swear it was January.

I don’t know about everyone else but this was by far my worst picking week of the season. Even as a Texans fan I got this one wrong, and since my choices all turned out to be the favorites, a whole lot of others too. A slaughter, thank goodness we drop one.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-10/737406/89 "2015-11-17T17:51:57Z")

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And the Texans are, as stated on the pre-game last night, the only team that also faces the Panthers and Patriots this season.

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**Author:** ![Quercus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/7ab992/32.png) [@Quercus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quercus)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-10/737406/90 "2015-11-17T20:53:10Z")

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> [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](#):
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> Heard this morning that a partial tear is more painful than a full tear. I’ve had plantar fasciitis, which is not a tear, and it hurts enough you can barely walk without a limp. Maybe if you wrapped the ever-loving crap out of it you could play football.

I only saw a replay of the interceptions, but \*something’\*s wrong with Peyton. He looked like someone throwing while standing on ice, or sitting in a chair or something – no stepping into it at all.

By the way, was I the only one who didn’t understand why one of those interceptions wasn’t defensive pass interference? I mean, sure, some incidental contact if you’re going for the ball is OK, but it just seems to me that pushing someone to the ground from behind is a little beyond ‘incidental’

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-10/737406/91 "2015-11-17T21:10:11Z")

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Sea Pigeons  
Officially dominoed.

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**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-10/737406/92 "2015-11-17T21:27:42Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> In related news, what the fuck happened to Nick Foles? He has been completely ineffective in every game this year. I knew it would be bad, given the Rams’ offensive line, but you’d think he could at least churn out 250 yards a game in today’s NFL.

He can’t make throws downfield; his receivers can’t catch when he does get the ball near them and his OC only knows three play calls and uses them over and over and over even when they don’t work.

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-10/737406/93 "2015-11-17T23:37:15Z")

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> [@Quercus](#):
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> I only saw a replay of the interceptions, but \*something’\*s wrong with Peyton. He looked like someone throwing while standing on ice, or sitting in a chair or something – no stepping into it at all.

That might be the plantar fascia tear. That’s his plant foot, and if it’s very painful to step down onto it, he really can’t follow through. Between his neck injury/nerve issues weakening his shoulder and arm and the plant foot problem destroying his ability to step into or body-torque the throw, he can’t have much power left.

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> By the way, was I the only one who didn’t understand why one of those interceptions wasn’t defensive pass interference? I mean, sure, some incidental contact if you’re going for the ball is OK, but it just seems to me that pushing someone to the ground from behind is a little beyond ‘incidental’

“Playing the ball”? They don’t call PI any more? 😕

Yeah. I’ve seen fairly blatant PI going uncalled this year. Apparently, they only call it on the Seahawks. :mad:

TBH, officiating has been notably terrible this year, it seems. But it may just be bad memory and confirmation bias. Maybe it’s this terrible every year.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2015, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-10/737406/94 "2015-11-18T01:14:44Z")

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> [@tarrel](#):
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> Classic Trap Game

Not only that, but the drops/fumbles by Eifert and Green were really uncharacteristic. That and the run game sucked. Jeremy Hill hasn’t been playing at all like “the man” like he did last season…it’s been Giovani Bernard, whom last I checked is SECOND in the NFL in yards after contact amongst RB’s, which is…odd.

When you’re 8-0, playing at home in the NFL and your defense holds the other team to 10 points, realistically that should almost always be a win. I also blame Hue Jackson for getting far too cute way too early in the game with his little weirdo screen formations and shifts. Just fucking tote the rock, you’ve got one of the better offensive lines in the league!

Andre Smith was a huge missing link though. Eric Winston had no business lining up all by himself against Watt for almost the whole game.

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**Author:** ![tarrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f0a364/32.png) [@tarrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tarrel)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2015, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-10/737406/95 "2015-11-18T01:18:39Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> Not only that, but the drops/fumbles by Eifert and Green were really uncharacteristic. That and the run game sucked. Jeremy Hill hasn’t been playing at all like “the man” like he did last season…it’s been Giovani Bernard, whom last I checked is SECOND in the NFL in yards after contact amongst RB’s, which is…odd.
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> When you’re 8-0, playing at home in the NFL and your defense holds the other team to 10 points, realistically that should almost always be a win. I also blame Hue Jackson for getting far too cute way too early in the game with his little weirdo screen formations and shifts. Just fucking tote the rock, you’ve got one of the better offensive lines in the league!
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> Andre Smith was a huge missing link though. Eric Winston had no business lining up all by himself against Watt for almost the whole game.

Seeing a fumble after a catch is one of the most annoying things to see as a NFL Fan

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**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2015, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-10/737406/96 "2015-11-18T14:55:34Z")

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> [@gnoitall](#):
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> TBH, officiating has been notably terrible this year, it seems. But it may just be bad memory and confirmation bias. Maybe it’s this terrible every year.

I think officiating is pretty bad every year. And every year there is some amount of hollering that officials must be held accountable, dammit! I think the commercial with the officials discussing how nobody saw the play and let’s just pretend we know what we’re talking about is a reenactment of actual events in an NFL game.

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**Author:** ![Quercus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/7ab992/32.png) [@Quercus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quercus)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2015, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-10/737406/97 "2015-11-18T15:43:46Z")

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> [@gnoitall](#):
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> Yeah. I’ve seen fairly blatant PI going uncalled this year. Apparently, they only call it on the Seahawks. :mad:

Oh, no, they also call it on the Patriots, too. Even when the receiver wasn’t touched!

> [@gnoitall](#):
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> TBH, officiating has been notably terrible this year, it seems. But it may just be bad memory and confirmation bias. Maybe it’s this terrible every year.

Don’t forget how many more camera angles and slow-motion replays we get now compared to the past. So now, rather than seeing it once at full speed, and going “Oh, close call either way”, we can pinpoint to the micrometer whether the foot was in or out, and say “Clearly, absolutely, the wrong call. He was nearly a full half-inch out of bounds! Referees suck!” And of course, rather than a couple live announcers and maybe two newspaper columnists, many or most of whom depend on cosying up to the league, we have inummerable bloggers and tweeters willing to scream bloody murder over, well, anything.

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**Author:** ![tarrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f0a364/32.png) [@tarrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tarrel)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2015, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-week-10/737406/98 "2015-11-18T17:13:07Z")

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Flags has made me scared to celebrate after a incompletion on 3rd and 17 because I always feel after the incompletion I will see a flag erasing the defensive effort to get the stop.

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